Are all americans this retared, or just ones on this video.

[root]

I'm not going to sit here and take this crap...

For starters, America is about freedom.  So WOW, some amateur managed to find a few morons to poll about easy questions... the only thing proven here is that some Anti-American, left-leaning, erm, person has passed political science 101 and has managed to produce a sub-par propaganda video.

Seems to me that we don't have a problem with morons so much as we have a problem with diplomacy.  If we are so friggin bad, then why do our borders POUR over with multitudes of people trying to sneak in?  If we are so bad, then why haven't we just leveled Iraq and TAKEN the oil?  The bottom line is that we are currently the world power, and have-nots everywhere want to take us down whether we pick a fight with them or not.   We are too busy defending ourselves to worry about making our case well.

Is it just me, or does most of the rest of the world rely upon us to do the dirtywork?  In particular, Europeans seem to mistake cowardice with the noble practice of pursuing peace.  Case in point, how often have we heard other Western countries pout about our preemptive war?  "It's illegal, it's for oil, there are no WMD's... (blah blah blah)."  I suppose that the sarin that Saddam dropped on the Kurds in 1992-3 was not a chemical weapon?
And like I just pointed out, why didn't we just TAKE the oil?  The reason we don't do these things is because we intervene in world affairs to make the world a safer place for us.  Those who do not support us benefit all the same.

Listen, I don't hate Europeans, or anyone for that matter, I really don't.  I wish you the best, I wish that we could all be happy and free and leave each other alone, but that just isn't the world we live in.  So long as there are violent psychopaths willing to strap bombs onto themselves and blow up schoolchildren, we are going to keep shooting.  Hey, I don't love Bush, he spends money like there is no tommorrow, and he has done nothing to secure our borders, but I will continue to vote for leaders that pursue the war on terrorism, even if I may have to hold my nose a bit to do so.

David:

Protesters are better people than you or I, they stand up for what they believe.
(Not including rioters)

Be glad that you live in a country that ALLOWS protest.  The president of Iran, just yesterday, urged that Iranian Universities be purged of "progressive professors".  Protest all you want, but protest in a free country is not "brave"...  staging a protest in Iran, now THAT takes balls.

I was hoping my first post in your forum would be about Tremulous, but when I saw this thread, my blood boiled over...  Perhaps you guys should consider a no-politics rule like fedoraforum.org has...

[David]

Seems to me that we don't have a problem with morons so much as we have a problem with diplomacy.  If we are so friggin bad, then why do our borders POUR over with multitudes of people trying to sneak in?

Because Mexicans cant afford to go anywhere else, and need work.

If we are so bad, then why haven't we just leveled Iraq and TAKEN the oil?

I thought you had...

The bottom line is that we are currently the world power, and have-nots everywhere want to take us down whether we pick a fight with them or not.   We are too busy defending ourselves to worry about making our case well.

You calling Europe 'have-nots'??
And defending yourselves? I thought it was 'preemptive'. the only thing you are defending is your unsustainable and wasteful way of life.

Is it just me, or does most of the rest of the world rely upon us to do the dirtywork?

I distinctly remember the world telling you to NOT attack Iraq... (note, I hate blair as much as bush, at least he's going soon)

In particular, Europeans seem to mistake cowardice with the noble practice of pursuing peace.  Case in point, how often have we heard other Western countries pout about our preemptive war?  "It's illegal, it's for oil, there are no WMD's... (blah blah blah)."  I suppose that the sarin that Saddam dropped on the Kurds in 1992-3 was not a chemical weapon?

The massacering of Kurds was not the reason for war. the only stated reason was WMD's. It has been proven there were none, and never was any evidence to suggest there was. And if you gave a toss about Kurds, you would have attacked in 93.

Listen, I don't hate Europeans, or anyone for that matter, I really don't.  I wish you the best, I wish that we could all be happy and free and leave each other alone, but that just isn't the world we live in.  So long as there are violent psychopaths willing to strap bombs onto themselves and blow up schoolchildren, we are going to keep shooting.

They attack you because you attack them.
9-11 was a tragedy, and you were right to try to stop terrorism, but killing thousands of Innocent people only makes more terrorists.

Perhaps you guys should consider a no-politics rule like fedoraforum.org has...

I hadn't expected this to go *this* far. perhaps retard was the wrong word...

[root]

David:

Because Mexicans cant afford to go anywhere else, and need work.

Which begs the question, why is it that we have work when they do not?  Could it be that perhaps our low taxes and general freedom foster a better economic environment?

David:

If we are so bad, then why haven't we just leveled Iraq and TAKEN the oil?

Last time I checked, oil prices here in the US were at a record high, hardly evidence of a flood of stolen oil... and also, last time I checked, your troops were there as well, so if oil IS being stolen, your hands are dirty as well.

David:

You calling Europe 'have-nots'??
And defending yourselves? I thought it was 'preemptive'. the only thing you are defending is your unsustainable and wasteful way of life.

The English language, which you invented, specifies that a paragraph begins with the subject, and continues with phrases that support that subject.  The paragraph in which I mention "have-nots" occurs in the paragraph BEFORE I make any mention of Europe.  And to be clear, no, Europe for the most part is a continent of "haves", and I never made a statement to the contrary.  And your society is nearly as "unsustainable" and "wasteful" as ours is, though in my opinion neither the US or UK fits this description.

David, in response to my statement: "Is it just me, or does most of the rest of the world rely upon us to do the dirtywork?"

I distinctly remember the world telling you to NOT attack Iraq... (note, I hate blair as much as bush, at least he's going soon)

I addressed this, "the rest of the world benefits all the same." (paragraph 4, last sentence.)
David:

They attack you because you attack them.
9-11 was a tragedy, and you were right to try to stop terrorism, but killing thousands of Innocent people only makes more terrorists.

9-11 wasn't a tradegy, it was mass murder.  The difference being that human beings did this deliberately.  Besides, by your own argument, since thousands of OUR innocents died, and you state that this creates terrorists, are you equating us with them?

Not sure what you meant by the last quote...[/quote]

[gareth]

LOL

Really, thats all i can say.

ok i said some more,  

[gareth]

9-11 wasn't a tradegy, it was mass murder.  The difference being that human beings did this deliberately.  Besides, by your own argument, since thousands of OUR innocents died, and you state that this creates terrorists, are you equating us with them?

9/11 was mass murder, but then by the same token so are americas wars:

civilian body count in iraq: 41639-46307(http://www.iraqbodycount.net/),

are foreigners any less worthy of life than american citizens?.

PS>im british and not religious

[Seffylight]

We have a big military, lots of nukes, and freedom (what's left of it, anyway). Go us?

We're behind in economics.
We're behind in education.
We're behind in world diplomacy.

America's only reason to hold claim to being a "superpower" in this day and age is because we have a stockpile of warheads.

[DieFamilyGuy]

u know what i really hate about americans???


the fact that they think we canadiens live in FREAKING IGLOOS AND ARE LUMBERJACKS!

i **** well hope that some1 of better organization can take office next election, or america is doomed for good.

[DieFamilyGuy]

also even though im canadien and i don't have exact likeness for americans i can spot about a zillion mistakes in that video, lol:


1: the guy who said, o gee it was reinacted in arizona. get ur facts right, area 51's in neveda

2: TEN EFFEL TOWERS???

3: john glenn??? now who was he? neil armstrong was the first on the moon.

4: the "guy with the diaper on his head"=osama bin laden

5: the tony blair question. some guys brother? no prime minister of uk.

6: how many kidneys? ppl must have not gone to school, we have 2

7: how many world wars. u gotta be kidding me. 3?

8: star wars was real, true or false, 2 of them said true



omg.......

9: well at least they got the al queada question right.

10: religion in isreal, muslim. not exactly a religion. ISLAM U FOOL.

11: latin is the language of mexico. bah i shouldn't go on.

[PHREAK]

Sadly, root is the typical case of an "educated" american. Full of him self, educated by MTV anf CNN and owns a gun.

For the last few years I've been living in the US and I've yet to see that freedom you talk about....but let's not get into that.
I was going to respond to most of your post and even wrote it all out when I realized that regardles of what I say, you CAN'T change your mind about the rest of the world.

Let me just say this in regards to 9/11, terror and wars.

I'm a 26 year old white european muslim who grew up in a war and has seen half his family slaughtered along with many friends.

Kid, you don't know shit about terror or wars.

Terrorism has been around since the begining of civilization and will continue for the rest of it.
"Winning the war on terror" is pure propaganda that is made for sheep like you, who believe that their gov't is doing something beneficial to the world by invading and overthrowing foreign governments.

BTW, if you call two planes smashing into two buildings and killing a 1000 people terrorism, then what is droping bombs and mortars for 36 hours on civil structures and killing tens of thousands of people considered? Oh yeah, making the world a safer place!

[gareth]

10: religion in isreal, muslim. not exactly a religion. ISLAM U FOOL.

i do hope thats a joke

[St. Anger]

Sadly, root is the typical case of an "educated" american. Full of him self, educated by MTV anf CNN and owns a gun.

For the last few years I've been living in the US and I've yet to see that freedom you talk about....but let's not get into that.
I was going to respond to most of your post and even wrote it all out when I realized that regardles of what I say, you CAN'T change your mind about the rest of the world.

Let me just say this in regards to 9/11, terror and wars.

I'm a 26 year old white european muslim who grew up in a war and has seen half his family slaughtered along with many friends.

Kid, you don't know shit about terror or wars.

Terrorism has been around since the begining of civilization and will continue for the rest of it.
"Winning the war on terror" is pure propaganda that is made for sheep like you, who believe that their gov't is doing something beneficial to the world by invading and overthrowing foreign governments.

BTW, if you call two planes smashing into two buildings and killing a 1000 people terrorism, then what is droping bombs and mortars for 36 hours on civil structures and killing tens of thousands of people considered? Oh yeah, making the world a safer place!

Answer: Who gives a fuck, we are defending our country. kkthxbye

[Seffylight]

Yes, defending our country! Just like we did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Kill about 2400 enlisted servicemen? WELL WE'LL KILL OVER 200,000 CIVILIANS! YAHOOOO GO AMERICA WHOOT!

[PIE]

The thing is... maybe Afghanistan was sort of defending our country(remember them?.. wtf happened over there?)... but Iraq was not... it was just bush abusing his power and using the military because of his personal hatred for sadam.. not because he was trying to help america... a lot of the bad that has happened to us is being abused and exploited of political gain and for things it doesn't need to be used for.. :/

[Bezerk]

oh.. man.. im sry to be an american... lol.. im not that dumb...  

[DieFamilyGuy]

to sum it up:
 

i now present WAR ON TERRORISM TREM STYLE!!!!


  <-saddam's men



                              <-terrorist lab
                                   
                                                                                        <-oil wells





<---ALL usa soldiers

[-Saig-]

drama in dis

chill the fuck out people lol

[trigger happy]

There are a lot of stupid americans.


Here's a Iraq trem style.


People who hate the US for attacking them and will do whatever it takes including suicide to stop us. WE CAN NEVER WIN A WAR WHERE PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO OUTRIGHT SUICIDE TO KILL US.

We kill


His friends family hate us
                 

Then their friends, family, etc. hate us



And so on.



What bush sees
Oil > people with brown skin


You don't support Iraq, unless you would you and fight if you knew beforehand you were going to die and guess what you don't. The Iraqies are willing to do that to stop us.

Stupid american response:
We should help the Iraqs by killing them all. They had mwds. Go Hitler!

[|Nex|TrEmMa]

You're telling me there's not 10 Eiffel Towers?
And Star Wars is fake?!!!!!!!!!!!
 :cry:

[Orc]

9: well at least they got the al queada question right.

That Al-Qaeda is a terrorist group in Israel with Yasser Arafat as its president is correct?

10: religion in isreal, muslim. not exactly a religion. ISLAM U FOOL.

A muslim is someone who follows the Islamic religion... and those damn Islamic Israelis must really hate those damn jews...

11: latin is the language of mexico. bah i shouldn't go on.

Is that supposed to be a joke or what? the language of mexico is spanish, latin was the language of the romans and is all but extinct today.

Yes, defending our country! Just like we did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Kill about 2400 enlisted servicemen? WELL WE'LL KILL OVER 200,000 CIVILIANS! YAHOOOO GO AMERICA WHOOT!

We removed the need for an invasion of the japanese home islands that was estimated to cost hundreds of thousands if not millions of american lives, if they had surrendered sooner we wouldn't have needed to drop the bomb.

First of all im sure if i go around any country and ask 1000 ppl current event questions, im sure i will have no difficulty finding 5-10 that have no clue whats happening in the world, and to look at those few as representative of the whole is a flawed approach. Why does the world, particularly europe, have to bash america anyway? it seems like only about 70 years ago all of europe was enveloped in the oppression of nazi germany until america stepped up to do something about it. Oh but im sure america didnt need to intervene, because england and the french resistance were just on the edge of turning the tide and all we did was show up at the end for undue glory huh? or perhaps the europeans would have relied on russia to save them so they could experience the same communism that eastern europe did and china still does. When the next major conflict comes who will the europeans call? I guarantee it will be america.

You Euros in your tiny countries remind me of high school geeks, they mock the jocks that get the girls, the popularity, and ultimately the power, because they know they themselves will never have it. I think you are all jealous of the power of the united states and try to hide it by mocking us.

The way i see it without america there would be no europe as you know it, you would either be russian communists or german socialists. So look at China, then look at America, and decide in which style you would rather live.

[David]

I hope you are joking.

America would have been happy to see us destroyed, you only attacked because they were attacked.
We had already beaten back the German air-force, the UK could not have been invaded.

You Euros in your tiny countries remind me of high school geeks, they mock the jocks that get the girls, the popularity, and ultimately the power, because they know they themselves will never have it. I think you are all jealous of the power of the united states and try to hide it by mocking us.

LOL
Get a life.
Its morons like you that give America a bad name.

[trigger happy]

9: well at least they got the al queada question right.

That Al-Qaeda is a terrorist group in Israel with Yasser Arafat as its president is correct?

10: religion in isreal, muslim. not exactly a religion. ISLAM U FOOL.

A muslim is someone who follows the Islamic religion... and those damn Islamic Israelis must really hate those damn jews...

11: latin is the language of mexico. bah i shouldn't go on.

Is that supposed to be a joke or what? the language of mexico is spanish, latin was the language of the romans and is all but extinct today.

Yes, defending our country! Just like we did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Kill about 2400 enlisted servicemen? WELL WE'LL KILL OVER 200,000 CIVILIANS! YAHOOOO GO AMERICA WHOOT!

We removed the need for an invasion of the japanese home islands that was estimated to cost hundreds of thousands if not millions of american lives, if they had surrendered sooner we wouldn't have needed to drop the bomb.

First of all im sure if i go around any country and ask 1000 ppl current event questions, im sure i will have no difficulty finding 5-10 that have no clue whats happening in the world, and to look at those few as representative of the whole is a flawed approach. Why does the world, particularly europe, have to bash america anyway? it seems like only about 70 years ago all of europe was enveloped in the oppression of nazi germany until america stepped up to do something about it. Oh but im sure america didnt need to intervene, because england and the french resistance were just on the edge of turning the tide and all we did was show up at the end for undue glory huh? or perhaps the europeans would have relied on russia to save them so they could experience the same communism that eastern europe did and china still does. When the next major conflict comes who will the europeans call? I guarantee it will be america.

You Euros in your tiny countries remind me of high school geeks, they mock the jocks that get the girls, the popularity, and ultimately the power, because they know they themselves will never have it. I think you are all jealous of the power of the united states and try to hide it by mocking us.

The way i see it without america there would be no europe as you know it, you would either be russian communists or german socialists. So look at China, then look at America, and decide in which style you would rather live.

Several things (I don't feal like commenting on everything you said):


1. We nuked Japan to say hey Russia we have nukes
2. The Euro used to be worth around $.90, now it's around $1.50 so shut it.
3. You are annother idiot who does not at all understand communism so buy a book and learn what it is or stop saying using it like a redneck.

[killjoy]

try to answer all those questions. i got most of them. but for the ones the people didn't know they just make a collection of the wrong answers and put it on the internet. i dont know anyone that is that stupid, and to make a generalization of an entire country of around 280 million people based on the "random" interview of a few dozen is even more stupid.

[chubby granger]

george bush is gonna die before he makes it out of office...it's called black hawk's curse, in 1840 william henry harrison was cursed by an indian called blackhawk, that year he became president and died 30 days after being elected, since then every president elected on a year ending with 0 has died before getting out of office...

1860 Abraham Lincoln, assassinated
1880 James Garfield, assassinated
1900 Theodore Roosevelt, assassinated
1920 Warren G. Harding, heart attack
1940 Franklin D. Roosevelt, cerebral hemorrhage
1960 John F. Kennedy, assassinated
1980 Ronald Reagan, shot BUT lived
2000 George bush

...we can only hope reagan didn't screw it up :/

don't know why i thought of this but i just thought i'd say it xD

[kozak6]

Pretzels.........

[chubby granger]

Pretzels.........

dude..................exactly what i was thinking!!!

[Basilisco]

george bush is gonna die --- every president elected on a year ending with 0 has died before getting out of office...

2000 George bush

Ya hhhm.. George Bush was elected in 2001 :|

[Stof]

george bush is gonna die --- every president elected on a year ending with 0 has died before getting out of office...

2000 George bush

Ya hhhm.. George Bush was elected in 2001 :|

Then, all that mess wass in fact a coordinated operation by all the parties to avoid the exponential effect of the "multiple of 10" year curse? ( 2000 can be divided 3 times by ten and so, the curse would have taken effect 3 times stronger )

It certainly explains some things

[AllmanBros]

u know what i really hate about americans???


the fact that they think we canadiens live in FREAKING IGLOOS AND ARE LUMBERJACKS!

You mean you don't?

















 :wink:

[DieFamilyGuy]

XD well y don't u come up and find out lol

[PanKot]

I hope you are joking.


We had already beaten back the German air-force, the UK could not have been invaded.

http://www.ww2.pl/Battle,of,Britain,and,the,Polish,Air,Force,138.html

We?


edit: bad link