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Two weapon slot and a new weapon

Started by holyknight, September 07, 2006, 04:08:45 AM

holyknight

I really think we should have two weapon slot. For example, you buy a chaingun, you kill all the maruaders and stuff. Then the dretches come. You can kill dretches with chainguns, but most people can't, and you die. So I think it'd be good if you can have another weapon in slot. But because it'd be cheap to have Chaingun and Flamethrower, it should be one heavy weapon and one small weapon. Like chaingun and rifle. Or flamethorwer and shotgun. Or maybe two small guns too.

As for a new weapon, it should be something that almost acts like a pulse rifle, but the bullet is like a chaingun. Because I really don't like pulse rifle, even though it looks like it moves fast, you can see the "lasers" moving. It seems slow. And chainguns are too hard to aim. So then when you are fighting Tyrants, Dretches, Dragoons, and other aliens, which weapon do you use? It should be the weapon I'm talking about. It could be called AK47 :D or something...

kozak6

You can already carry one heavy weapon and one small weapon.

Of course, there's only one small weapon, and it's called the blaster.

The weapon you are proposing is the lasgun, or at least that's as close as you're going to get to it.

Undeference

Tremulous isn't exactly your highly realistic tactical FPS. If it were, I'd be packing a HK .40cal and a Dragunov SR (for dragoon hunting ;).
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Paradox

Why not just make the aliens completely useless then?

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holyknight

then make something GOOD for aliens too! Like that thread about the ADV Basilisk. Or ADV Dretch

DIGI_Byte

Quote from: holyknightthen make something GOOD for aliens too! Like that thread about the ADV Basilisk. Or ADV Dretch

sure its would be cool for the humans. then you would have to do somthing for the aliens and that would be more for nothing and it would creat more balance issues that we are slowly getting rid off.

BTW how our map going i have some more stuff for you to do with GTKr if your in the mood

Lava Croft

I want to be able to carry around a loaded Lucy and a loaded Pulse, in addition to the Blaster. That would rock. Give the Aliens a 2000hp/200dmg class while you are it, please.

Paradox

Give the aliens a burrowing class that can grab like a basailsk, and pull humans underground, so it is safe, and give it a 200 slash.

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vcxzet

tremulous is a game supported by area 51
so it should be a realistic simulation

krom

Quote from: holyknightI really think we should have two weapon slots.

Yeah put some True Combat inside your Trem...
Or just play True Combat (new release soon).
:D

holyknight

well, i thought about a new weapon. How about a weapon where you can zoom in so you can shoot better? Like a sniper rifle (but  not really the sniper rifle, it doesn't fit in the game, right?) So maybe a "rifle" that can make you look closer. Like an upgrade to the weapon you have.

kozak6


holyknight

you CANT look closer with Mass Driver.
And Mass Driver isn't even a kind of the rifle weapon. It's like a shotgun...

Thorn

Wrong , a mass driver is nothing like a shotgun and is closer to a rifle than a shotgun.

A rifle fires a bullet where your crosshair as pointing as far as i know.
A shotgun fires a shell of bullets in the area of ur crosshair.
A Mass driver fires a depleted uranium cell at your crosshair.

So , an md is closer to a rifle.

Survivor

Quote from: holyknightyou CANT look closer with Mass Driver.
And Mass Driver isn't even a kind of the rifle weapon. It's like a shotgun...

try the zoom key, and it's more like a sniper 'rifle' than any other weapon in the game.
I'm busy. I'll ignore you later.

holyknight

Quote from: ThornWrong , a mass driver is nothing like a shotgun and is closer to a rifle than a shotgun.

A rifle fires a bullet where your crosshair as pointing as far as i know.
A shotgun fires a shell of bullets in the area of ur crosshair.
A Mass driver fires a depleted uranium cell at your crosshair.

So , an md is closer to a rifle.
But you only can shoot once in a while, not like repeatly, like a rifle

And Survivor: Where's the zoom key?

And I know this is old.. but
Quote from: kozak6
The weapon you are proposing is the lasgun, or at least that's as close as you're going to get to it.
Lasgun isn't useful in the S3... so then we need a better gun. Like an upgrade to the lasgun

kozak6

The zoom button is default bound to Z, I think.

Neo

We could give the aliens a chance to store a backup evo, so you can switch from dretch to tyrant and back to balance for the chaingu/shotgun combos :D

Survivor

Lasgun not useful in s3? You really need to play the game more. It's an excellent weapon for pursuing and weakening aliens. Just remember that humans aren't supposed to take big aliens on 1vs 1. And the rifle is a single shot reload weapon. You're thinking of automatic rifles.
I'm busy. I'll ignore you later.

kevlarman

Quote from: NeoWe could give the aliens a chance to store a backup evo, so you can switch from dretch to tyrant and back to balance for the chaingu/shotgun combos :D
rofl, if i could do this, i would go lisk, grab a human, sit on his head, then switch to tyrant to finish him.
Quote from: Asvarox link=topic=8622.msg169333#msg169333Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
the dretch bites.
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kozak6

Or perhaps cut human ammo in half.

holyknight

Quote from: kevlarman
Quote from: NeoWe could give the aliens a chance to store a backup evo, so you can switch from dretch to tyrant and back to balance for the chaingu/shotgun combos :D
rofl, if i could do this, i would go lisk, grab a human, sit on his head, then switch to tyrant to finish him.
changing the idea of tyrant to dretch SOUNDS like a good idea.
But Kevlarman, your idea won't work, because evoloving only works when faraway from enemies :)

kevlarman

Quote from: holyknight
Quote from: kevlarman
Quote from: NeoWe could give the aliens a chance to store a backup evo, so you can switch from dretch to tyrant and back to balance for the chaingu/shotgun combos :D
rofl, if i could do this, i would go lisk, grab a human, sit on his head, then switch to tyrant to finish him.
changing the idea of tyrant to dretch SOUNDS like a good idea.
But Kevlarman, your idea won't work, because evoloving only works when faraway from enemies :)
since humans get to switch weapons at any time, i assumed that the backup class that aliens get would be exactly the same
Quote from: Asvarox link=topic=8622.msg169333#msg169333Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
the dretch bites.
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Rippy

lmfao... So, you're saying that the entire human team is extremely underpowered. Has it ever occured to you that maybe you're just bad at Tremulous? Because that would explain why you're the only one who can only beat an alien with 2 weapons, and full ammo for each weapon.

Also,
Quote from: HolyKnightyou CANT look closer with Mass Driver
If you aren't even aware of all the game mechanics, how can you expect to make radical suggestions that make sense?

Not to mention you aren't aware of what a rifle is. It's a gun whose barrel has spiral curves in it to improve accuracy. Basically, if it's not a shotgun and it's not at handgun, it's a rifle. Now, I'm not going delve into gun terms and definitions, but I will say this:

...What the hell do you think a sniper rifle is? By your definition, a rifle is an automatic weapon (a gun where you can hold the trigger down and it'll fire continuously). Now, sniper rifles are most always bolt-action, meaning you have to manually chamber each bullet by pulling the bolt open and closed. Think for a second: If a sniper rifle doesn't match your definition of the word "rifle", then something's up.
remulous username: [GEC]MassiveDamage

St. Anger

Quote from: holyknightI really think we should have two weapon slot. For example, you buy a chaingun, you kill all the maruaders and stuff. Then the dretches come. You can kill dretches with chainguns, but most people can't, and you die. So I think it'd be good if you can have another weapon in slot. But because it'd be cheap to have Chaingun and Flamethrower, it should be one heavy weapon and one small weapon. Like chaingun and rifle. Or flamethorwer and shotgun. Or maybe two small guns too.

As for a new weapon, it should be something that almost acts like a pulse rifle, but the bullet is like a chaingun. Because I really don't like pulse rifle, even though it looks like it moves fast, you can see the "lasers" moving. It seems slow. And chainguns are too hard to aim. So then when you are fighting Tyrants, Dretches, Dragoons, and other aliens, which weapon do you use? It should be the weapon I'm talking about. It could be called AK47 :D or something...

An AK47 would be good.

Mwa

Quote from: Lava CroftI want to be able to carry around a loaded Lucy and a loaded Pulse, in addition to the Blaster. That would rock. Give the Aliens a 2000hp/200dmg class while you are it, please.
Nah, sod that, I want to have 2 lucys that fire at the same time along the same path and an advanced dretch that has noclip on as default.
(Noclip dretches kill humans and turrets instantly)
awr.

kozak6


Stof

Quote from: Mwa
Quote from: Lava CroftI want to be able to carry around a loaded Lucy and a loaded Pulse, in addition to the Blaster. That would rock. Give the Aliens a 2000hp/200dmg class while you are it, please.
Nah, sod that, I want to have 2 lucys that fire at the same time along the same path and an advanced dretch that has noclip on as default.
(Noclip dretches kill humans and turrets instantly)
If we are at that, I would take the Quake 3 rocket launcher, or even better, the UT 99 rocket launcher ( the one where you can load 6 rockets at the same time :) )
urphy's rules of combat
8 ) Teamwork is essential; it gives the enemy someone else to shoot at.
18 ) Make it too tough for the enemy to get in and you can't get out.

Undeference

Two is a preposterous number. Why stop at two? I want a rocket launcher and a BFG 9000 (and a pistol, a shotgun, a chaingun, etc.). And the highest class alien should be a missile launching skyscraper with goat legs. 'Nuf said.

Come to think of it, a cyberdemon would destroy any chances the humans ever thought they had, regardless of whether all humans could carry TWO BFG 9000s.
1. The humans would all be killing each other.
2. A cyberdemon has 2000 hit points and takes NO SPLASH DAMAGE.
3. No human can score a direct hit every time, while dodging huge blast areas (and friendly fire).
4. Cyberdemons would own any and every human base within minutes (and if there are a bunch of humans with BFG 9000s, they only accelerate the process).
5. If we assume a cyberdemon is like the aliens, its healing rate would be high enough to negate any effect a rifle (or a teammate's poison) would do.

I think this could fix up sudden death pretty well too. When sudden death comes around, just make everyone either a bsuit with a BFG 9000 or a cyberdemon. The game will end in under 5 minutes.
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