How about an AKKA revival

[The Reverend]

So I was thinking.  There used to be so many good matches on AKKA back when trem first started up and now it doesn't seem to get as many people as it used to.  So how about this weekend if you think you're worth your salt and are a veteren player how about we all meet up on AKKA this weekend and revive it for some good teamplay matches.  If you're new come and Specate for the win.  There where quite a few spec wins  by the peanut gallery:P

[Taiyo.uk]

I used to play on AKKA a fair ammount, but there never seems to be any players there now, I have no idea why.

[[Kcorp]Noobius]

my ping there sucks, maybe that's true for some of the other players.

[Ksempac]

If i remember well, AKKA is one of the historical server...Its far older than the stand-alone version. So many people went there because there wasn t many choice of server. Maybe it was the only server where they could get decent pings.

Now that people can choose, its obvious that historical servers loose a bit of their population. For AKKA 2 things push this further :
- The 1-hour BAN if you do a lot of damage to buildings. This was meant to avoid spamming, but many people doesnt agree with it (for example you cant ask someone with a weapon to do a fast destruction of the old base when you re moving to a new one)
- AKKA used to have the highest number of players (Tremulous is meant for 16, AKKA has 24) so some people who liked big slaughtering went to AKKA for that...But now there is SST.

Note : this is only a guess...I dont say this is the absolute truth

[Survivor]

If i remember well, AKKA is one of the historical server...Its far older than the stand-alone version. So many people went there because there wasn t many choice of server. Maybe it was the only server where they could get decent pings.

It is. But ever since the standalone I just shifted to the db servers and later treminfo for the ping. I'm willing to play on any server where i get <150 ping but most people i've come to know just play on these.

[Lakitu7]

I mostly didn't like Akka because of the crazy killcount-to-reach-next-stage numbers. It could be a 3v3 and require 48 kills to get to S2. I don't know what the hell hack/bug caused it, but it's ridiculous. I'd like to see it come back if that gets fixed.

[Ksempac]

Strange...never heard about it (i cant play on AKKA because of my ping, so i m only speaking with my knowledge of the forum and the chat)...are you sure it wasn't because of Pulse ?

Pulse has a higher than usual count. However, during Beta 2, this setting wasn't properly implemented and it messed with the server values, so that every map after Pulse ended up with the crazy kill requirements. Now its fixed.

[holyknight]

I'll go there if people remind me

[PIE]

YES!.. I love akka!
I took a brake and came back and noone was on ever..
It'll be nice to have some people back on there.. i'll be there for sure!

[DarkRogue]

heh actually r1ch boosted the kills for next stage which drove alot of people off. Most of the last games I played on AKKA were when the count for next stage was in the hundred + range or the scripts were bugged and the counts increased faster than anyone could keep up with

[Lava Croft]

I guess people just do not like R1CH's changes...

[Door Slammer]

I have 2 problems with AKKA;

1.  Insane kill count to next stage.  Games which required the aliens to get 65 kills to s2 while humans needed 45 kills got to be a pain in the ass faster than my next problem...

2.  Weakened goon pounce.  Nothing like pouncing an unarmored human and killing him .

Although I believe goon should not be available until s2, I do not like the weak goon.

I had good ping on AKKA, and many many goon kills, but I wonder if the good quality players would return to play?

[R1CH]

heh actually r1ch boosted the kills for next stage which drove alot of people off. Most of the last games I played on AKKA were when the count for next stage was in the hundred + range or the scripts were bugged and the counts increased faster than anyone could keep up with

I did no such thing, blame shitty mappers. If anyone figures out what map does this, I'll remove it.

[R1CH]

I have 2 problems with AKKA;
2.  Weakened goon pounce.  Nothing like pouncing an unarmored human and killing him .

All weapons and damage are identical to Tremulous 1.1.0 values with the exception of the lucifer cannon falloff.

[vcxzet]

yo crazy people

[WalkerTexasGranger]

heh actually r1ch boosted the kills for next stage which drove alot of people off. Most of the last games I played on AKKA were when the count for next stage was in the hundred + range or the scripts were bugged and the counts increased faster than anyone could keep up with

I did no such thing, blame shitty mappers. If anyone figures out what map does this, I'll remove it.

EVERY map does it.  Every single map has double the needed kills to stage increase.  Instead of it being 4 kills per person it's 8 per person.  On every map.  That's probably what drove everyone off.


And I would personally love an AKKA revival.  I've been going to Boom Boom or (eww) SST.  I miss the high quality matches that we had on AKKA.  

[Stof]

heh actually r1ch boosted the kills for next stage which drove alot of people off. Most of the last games I played on AKKA were when the count for next stage was in the hundred + range or the scripts were bugged and the counts increased faster than anyone could keep up with

I did no such thing, blame shitty mappers. If anyone figures out what map does this, I'll remove it.

EVERY map does it.  Every single map has double the needed kills to stage increase.  Instead of it being 4 kills per person it's 8 per person.  On every map.  That's probably what drove everyone off.


And I would personally love an AKKA revival.  I've been going to Boom Boom or (eww) SST.  I miss the high quality matches that we had on AKKA.  

Not exactly. One map has that setting, but since there's a "bug", Tremulous will keep the setting for all the normal maps because the cvar change survives the end of the map.

Of the maps that change that I only know of Pulse ( but it also changes the BP so it easy to spot ) and minetest or whatever it's called. It's the map with the awful human spot that can only be reached by Adv Goon or by jetpack outside that humans love to build the base there.

[DarkRogue]

heh actually r1ch boosted the kills for next stage which drove alot of people off. Most of the last games I played on AKKA were when the count for next stage was in the hundred + range or the scripts were bugged and the counts increased faster than anyone could keep up with

I did no such thing, blame shitty mappers. If anyone figures out what map does this, I'll remove it.

I would blame shitty mappers if it was the shitty mappers fault but its' not. 100% of your maps are played on other servers without a bugging kill counter. It's something in your server patches that is causing it as that's the only other thing AKKA ever gets updated with.

And can't blame tjw sinc eyou use your own server patches so whoops guess the fault is YOURS. Nobody elses.

[R1CH]

heh actually r1ch boosted the kills for next stage which drove alot of people off. Most of the last games I played on AKKA were when the count for next stage was in the hundred + range or the scripts were bugged and the counts increased faster than anyone could keep up with

I did no such thing, blame shitty mappers. If anyone figures out what map does this, I'll remove it.

I would blame shitty mappers if it was the shitty mappers fault but its' not. 100% of your maps are played on other servers without a bugging kill counter. It's something in your server patches that is causing it as that's the only other thing AKKA ever gets updated with.

And can't blame tjw sinc eyou use your own server patches so whoops guess the fault is YOURS. Nobody elses.

I have not introduced any bugs, only fixes. I haven't even touched the map rotation code, so this bug is from Tremulous 1.1.0. I thought I had applied all the appropriate patches from Bugzilla but apparently not.

[Ksempac]

Dark Rogue, R1CH, You know you could actually read what people write before posting. :rolleyes:
Here is what i posted above :

Strange...never heard about it (i cant play on AKKA because of my ping, so i m only speaking with my knowledge of the forum and the chat)...are you sure it wasn't because of Pulse ?

Pulse has a higher than usual kill count. However, in Beta 2, this setting wasn't properly implemented and it messed up the server values, so that every map after Pulse ended up with the crazy kill requirements. Now its fixed.

Is pulse beta 2 in map rotation ? if so, its probably the reason of all this.

The Derelict server also had this problem : After playing Pulse every map needed 100+ Kills to get to S3 even though we had only 2-3 players in each team. Thats why Pulse was removed from rotation for a long time. There is a fix for it, ask Soubok or Megabite. If i remember well the Beta 3 doesn t have this problem.

Anyways, Darkrogue, yes its possible to modify the server values in one map and screw them for all the maps after. When pulse beta 1 and 2 came out, there wasn t many servers, and almost none used beta maps. That's why it wasn t noticed by many people (only Derelict players). By the time more servers started to use beta maps, the beta 3 was out.
So, i dont know what R1CH did or didn t do, but dont flame him without knowing what he did

[PHREAK]

Hang on R1CH,
you claim that the goon damage is the standard 1.1.0?

This seems a bit strange since a few of us have tested it out a while back and came to the conclusion that the pounce on AKKA only does damage in the 40's hp (naked hummie).

You might wanna check your code and see what got messed up.
The goon pounce and sluggish movement is what keeps me away from AKKA. I do like the server for it's quality matches but recently, Boom Boom is getting close to that quality. (and goon is as good as Timbo made it).

[DarkRogue]

Dark Rogue, R1CH, You know you could actually read what people write before posting. :rolleyes:
Here is what i posted above :

Strange...never heard about it (i cant play on AKKA because of my ping, so i m only speaking with my knowledge of the forum and the chat)...are you sure it wasn't because of Pulse ?

Pulse has a higher than usual kill count. However, in Beta 2, this setting wasn't properly implemented and it messed up the server values, so that every map after Pulse ended up with the crazy kill requirements. Now its fixed.

Is pulse beta 2 in map rotation ? if so, its probably the reason of all this.

The Derelict server also had this problem : After playing Pulse every map needed 100+ Kills to get to S3 even though we had only 2-3 players in each team. Thats why Pulse was removed from rotation for a long time. There is a fix for it, ask Soubok or Megabite. If i remember well the Beta 3 doesn t have this problem.

Anyways, Darkrogue, yes its possible to modify the server values in one map and screw them for all the maps after. When pulse beta 1 and 2 came out, there wasn t many servers, and almost none used beta maps. That's why it wasn t noticed by many people (only Derelict players). By the time more servers started to use beta maps, the beta 3 was out.
So, i dont know what R1CH did or didn t do, but dont flame him without knowing what he did

Pulse isn't on akka or at least wasn't at the time of the bugged kill counts. So sorry but while pulse beta 2 might have this issue it's difficult for this issue to effect a server that doesn't even have the original version in rotation.

K thanks bye bye dumbshit.

[|Nex|TrEmMa]

Hang on R1CH,
you claim that the goon damage is the standard 1.1.0?

This seems a bit strange since a few of us have tested it out a while back and came to the conclusion that the pounce on AKKA only does damage in the 40's hp (naked hummie).

You might wanna check your code and see what got messed up.
The goon pounce and sluggish movement is what keeps me away from AKKA. I do like the server for it's quality matches but recently, Boom Boom is getting close to that quality. (and goon is as good as Timbo made it).

Pounce on AKKA does 99 iirc.

[Workaphobia]

Ah, akka, the single best server that ever existed or possibly ever will.

Things that annoy me:
- High stage kill counts, promoting longer games (I think beergarden has the right idea with sd at 30:00)
- 1 hour bans. There's nothing quite as aggravating as getting banned automatically when you're the highest scorer.
- Excessively large games, i.e., full server on a small map like atcs, leading either to sd or to human spam domination.

Things to love about akka:
- Relatively low number of griefers and idiots
- Collection of the best players in the tremulous community
- Low ping, often 15ms for me (I'm located in New York, don't know where the server is)
- Friendly fire for buildings and a modified luci, to weaken spam
- Nice server performance. No periodic lag spikes like the old beergarden server

I'd love to see more veterans playing on akka again. Although that may undo the boost that my ego got when I started playing elsewhere.

[lynxeye]

i miss AKKA

[vcxzet]

DIE

[_Equilibrium_]

die lynxeye, or die thread?

[treminator]

About a half a year or so ago, AKKA disappeared off the server list for about three weeks; at least mine anyways.  Don't know why that was, but I've since moved on to greener pastures where I farm for nooblets and sell them at the armory market for even bigger rakes.

[Kobrakai]

I would love to go back to having a bunch of vets play on AKKA again, if at least for a little while.

I've been pretty much stuck playing in only Boom Boom or Potato Patch (which are servers I like, don't get me wrong) but it is a totally different experience than the 'ole AKKA.

[n00b pl0x]

DIE