!SatGNU! Pro(per) Talk Weekend Event!

[Lava Croft]

First off, I would like to say that I am quite annoyed with the level of skill the general Tremulous populace shows when playing, and I know that I am not the only one whose fun in Tremulous is being seriously killed off by this. As a result, the SatGNU crew has come up with the following idea, and we would like your feedback on it.

From Friday 1800h until Monday 0600h, SatGNU will be closed for the general public. This means you cannot get in without an invitation. An invitation can consists out of one of two things; You either have above level 0 Admin Rights on SatGNU, or you get a personal invitation by one of the SatGNU Server Admins. This means that if you don't have above level 0 Admin Rights, or you haven't got a personal invitation, you will have to find another server to play on during the weekends, which shouldn't be that big of a problem.

We (the SatGNU crew) hope that this will help us in regaining our fun in playing Tremulous, and we hope the players attending these events will feel the same. Now, you might be wondering if you have either level 1 or higher Admin Rights on SatGNU, or if you will be invited, so let's clear that up.

To check if you have the proper Admin Rights, just connect to SatGNU and type /!admintest in the console, it should output either your Admin level, or nothing, since you have no Admin Rights and therefore cannot use the command.
If you do not have Admin Rights on SatGNU, but you do feel like you are a  capable Tremulous player, and you would really like to play some Tremulous games without constantly being annoyed by brainless drones ruining your fun in all sorts of manners, hop by #satgnu on QuakeNet IRC, where one of the Ops will be happy to help you out, and check if you indeed have more than 5 braincells, so you can participate.
I would like to add to this that any personal matters do not apply here, meaning that it doesn't matter if we like each other or not, as long as you are a capable Tremulous player, you are welcomed with open arms.

Since there is no known way to only let certain people connect during these hours, we will put a password on the server, which means that if you are eligible to participate in these games, you will have to come to #satgnu on QuakeNET IRC, every Friday around 1800h, when we will give out the password for this week's event.

I hope that these events will become a succes, and I'm looking forward to seeing you all on SatGNU this coming weeked, for stress-free Tremulous gaming, the way it is meant to be.

Yours Truly,

maci & Lava Croft

[raf]

sounds pretty interesting :-)

[Kuru]

Perfect. I can't play tremulous nowadays, the games suck and I get pissed off in a blink.
Go SatGNU!

[Ksempac]

Sounds nice...I hope i will be able to play on SatGNU when i will be back in Europe

[rasz_pl]

constantly being annoyed by brainless drones ruining your fun in all sorts of manners

sounds familiar, some admins come to mind

I would like to add to this that any personal matters do not apply here

hmm weird, so count me in

Since there is no known way to only let certain people connect during these hours

you want a patch to add GUID acceslist? something ala reverse banlist

[Lava Croft]

No, we don't desire any patches, we just password the server and anyone who accidentally gets in without being invited just gets a permaban.

[Undeference]

Add my patch that solves the problem. It solves all problems. It even makes toast.

[Survivor]

Proper Teamspeak and such as well?

[Undeference]

No, but it makes damn good toast.

[PIE]

Crap.. you guys sort of stole my idea :/
I've been wondering how something like this might work out. BoomBoom has been getting a decent stream of vets, but you get a couple of noobs and autoselect stacks the teams twice in a row and both sides get fed up... someone decons, or just goes feed crazy and its hard to get things back together again.

So this is every weekend from now on then?

[Lava Croft]

Crap.. you guys sort of stole my idea :/

You cannot steal 'ideas'.

So this is every weekend from now on then?

Yes.

[PIE]

Crap.. you guys sort of stole my idea :/

You cannot steal 'ideas'.

I imagine that is someone else's idea you just stole just then :p
You know i mean it figuratively.

[DKG]

Would it be possible to offer "spectate only" invitations/access to the event?  I know I'm not worthy of *Active* participation, despite my two months of "Tremming" (I find comfort in blaming my ping times, regrettably, I'm all too aware it's...my crap PC? anyone? No. Neither ping nor machine spec are to blame)
I enjoy watching ('spec-ing') decent Tremulous matches, as much as I do playing them.
The decision you made regarding "Private Play" is understandable.
1.   “Escape Griefers”
2.   “Avoid noobs”
3.   Which ultimately=”Have Fun!”
Everyone hates griefers, even belier13, as they jeopardize HIS (yes, earned) role in Trem.
Everyone wants to have fun (whatever their perception of fun may be)
That leaves us with the noobs…
I know it’s a touchy subject, but…
I won’t even go the distance to argue “our cause”.  It would mean acres of rainforest worth of (virtual) paper go to waste (“Feeding” vs “Where did YOU begin YOUR ‘Trem career’”…”Do un to others… yeah but he’s crap!”…)
I live in Greece, as such, I get “decent” connections to few servers (below 95ping is excellent) satgnu, alienswrath, funzone and some funky Hungarian/Russian/Italian… Servers.
I’d hate to loose one of my few high-ping servers just because I’m a little pooh (bless me)
I’ve had no report of griefing, foul language (I must admit I DO say “shit” and “fuck” on [VERY] rare occasion) but I’ve never been accused of griefing/deconing/…
I’d Love to be given the chance, just to observe the matches of “pro(per) Trem ^#TEAMS ” battle it out.
Thank you for your time (not just reading this, but maintaining a very enjoyable gaming experience on your server)
Yours truly,
DKG,
The NEWBIE (noob-owner)

[vcxzet]

permaban weekend

[Lava Croft]

OK, just to clear things up; We have purposefully named it Pro(per) Player Event, and not Pro Player Event, because we aren't looking for Pro players, but for Proper players. We dont need 18 Jimbo's on the server, nor 18 Henners'(We do love you though!). What we want to achieve are 2.5 days of Tremulous gaming with people who know what they are doing. Everyone is eligible, this is not meant as some event for elite players, just an event for people who are also fed up with the large amount of dumbasses ruining the fun for the small amount of people who do know what they are doing when they buy a Painsaw. So everyone feel free to hop by #satgnu on QuakeNet IRC, we have enough Ops there to answer all your questions, and you will probably sooner be invited to the event than denied acces to it.

Concerning the spectator slots, we will allow 18 players to play the game, and we will have 6 slots reserved for people who want to spectate. We will not invite anyone just to spectate, being invited means you can happily tag along to BZZ up a few Aliens.

Also, as a last note, I would like to ask a few people if they want to record demos of the games played during these Events, so that people can see movies other than the 'newbie pwnage movies' that have been frequenting these forums, and maybe learn a thing or two. I know I will surely learn a thing or two. Or more.

<3 Lava

[Neo]

Can't we just have 1 noobie on each side?

Else i'll not be able to have fun painsawing them when they try and deconn

[maci]

Can't we just have 1 noobie on each side?

Else i'll not be able to have fun painsawing them when they try and deconn

TREE WORZ:

NO WAI!

[tuple]

I would ask for an invitation if my ping were better
Do you like how rude I am

This is the third time I've heard this idea brought up, although it is novel in that it is only for weekends.  Good concept that I hope works cause then maybe some of us chicken admins can try it out  

If anyone does see that SATGNU is empty over the weekend and is looking for a good match, check the #tremulous irc channel on quakenet and I'll bet you'll find someone to play with    I bring this up only cause I know many of the pro players won't sit waiting in an empty server, but I bet they will check irc if they know it will definately give them a good match, and there are usually SATGNU people in IRC!

In the future, I will endeavor to increase the number of smiley faces in my posts.  :oops:  I know I can bring it up to one per sentence. :eek:

[tuple]

This thread is for SATGNU to promote their server for a weekend.  We will remember what an ass you are being DJ_Pong.  edit: removed idiotic and incorrect content :p

Mind you, Lava and the admins at SATGNU have every right to admin as they see fit as it is THEIR SERVER!  It seems like banning you may have been a smart move if your behavior here is any indication.

One last thing, bragging about that "one" game is idiotic.  Everyone has bad games, and things may not be what you think.  I have fed the opposition furiously cause a. it keeps them from base and b. I get a kill or 2 closer to the next stage.  Experienced players also leave in frustration when new players won't do the most basic of things, like NOT run into the 3 goons with little more than a rifle.

[Lava Croft]

tuple, I don't think Dj Pong runs a server. He is just someone who freeloads off of other people's money, and then still dares to disrespect them too! Ain't he a swell guy!?
But, back to the topic, tuple, screw your ping, you can always build, camp, or generally be a teleporting annoyance to the rest of us!~

[Caveman]

Please, what ever your grudges are, keep our Server out of it

OnTopic: I really like that idea, great way to get the fun back.

What's the world come to?
This is the second time I fully agree with Larva

[Chojin]

I like this idea. Please keep us posted on how it went, Lava.

Peoro and me have been thinking about g_allowClientWithoutGUID 1/0 and g_allowClientLevelAndAbove 0/1/2/3/... But maybe that's not necessary at all.

[Neo]

Well apart from advertising the Satgnu event it would seem to give a good indication of what to expect from Alien's Wrath.

[jhaa]

Remember, for weekends SatGNU will be free of people like Dj_Pong, so join #satgnu and come play with us :)

[Lava Croft]

I would like to thank an unknown forum mod for removing the spam.

[raf]

right now the server is pretty empty :-/
hope there will be more people this weekend :-)

anyways thanks to the satgnu team :-)

[kevlarman]

I like this idea. Please keep us posted on how it went, Lava.

Peoro and me have been thinking about g_allowClientWithoutGUID 1/0 and g_allowClientLevelAndAbove 0/1/2/3/... But maybe that's not necessary at all.

they hate all patches, and refuse to put up anything other than tjw's qvm, but this isn't necessarily a bad idea, it might be interesting to allow people into private slots based on admin level. (/me has had to memorize too many hilariously stupid passwords for those slots)

[Workaphobia]

This is an excellent idea. Ever since AKKA lost popularity I've been having more and more aggrevating games (although at least I'm getting more easy kills ). I won't be able to participate tomorrow, but I'll check it out the first weekend I have free time. Hope I get a good ping on Satgnu - I'll add it to my favorites and check it out sometime first.

[Lava Croft]

I personally renamed this whole thing to the Pro(per) Talk Weekend Event, since that is just about the only thing that went down.

[vcxzet]

I personally renamed this whole thing to the Pro(per) Talk Weekend Event, since that is just about the only thing that went down.

you scared the ppl with the idea of pro(per)ness