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Started by yetshi, December 04, 2006, 09:30:02 AM

yetshi





i can make bases so much smaller now that i figured this out.

stack 4 teles into the footprint of 1 and they share damage since the hit boxes are crossing.

so 4 times harder to destroy.

the more i stack the more they share damage.

Lava Croft


DASPRiD

Stacking Turrets/Teslas? This is not a fun-map of Starcraft, where you can turn of light  :P

Ah and right, fix your gamma.

vcxzet

so the bug is gamma related?

Megagun

I guess 'Fix your Gamma' is a way of telling people to change their gamma settings because the game looks way too ugly with gamma set to high.. :P

About Starcraft: little reference to Turret Defense maps from Starcraft. Due to a bug/feature, one could build turrets over eachother if there wasn't any vision on that particular area. In normal games, this would not be possible, but due to a bit of scripting on Use Map Settings maps (Custom maps) one could 'turn off the lights' by moving a character to a certain spot on the map, which then allowed the player to stack turrets because of the map going dark.

DASPRiD

Hm, there I remember "Can you do 24 tricks?". Crushing a tank with a command center, cloaking a dret... zergling, floating a drone. Nah, many intereting things ;)

Odin

Too bad they fixed the turret stacking in their latest version.

Anyway, how do you actually stack buildings in Trem?

kevlarman

Quote from: OdinToo bad they fixed the turret stacking in their latest version.

Anyway, how do you actually stack buildings in Trem?
i don't think it's possible, if you had enough "shelves" to build on, you might be able to reproduce that image with an svn cgame (due to how the model falling off the edge bug works in svn), but i don't think there's enough space for that on uncreation, and the hitboxes are all too far up to be useful.
Quote from: Asvarox link=topic=8622.msg169333#msg169333Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
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techhead

How did he build one turret on top of another, anyway?
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Undeference

What happens is it you build too far over on a ledge, the buildable itself, hitbox and all, will fall. When it has fallen, it is no longer on the ledge, so you can now build something else there. The new buildable falls, and you get hours of fun.

I once had a dozen acid tubes stacked on each other on highrise, but the models fell, so it looked like just one tube. People who got too close to the tube got a pretty big surprise.
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Quote from: tuple on February 15, 2008, 11:54:10 PMThats what we need, helpful players, not more powerful admins.

kevlarman

Quote from: UndeferenceWhat happens is it you build too far over on a ledge, the buildable itself, hitbox and all, will fall. When it has fallen, it is no longer on the ledge, so you can now build something else there. The new buildable falls, and you get hours of fun.

I once had a dozen acid tubes stacked on each other on highrise, but the models fell, so it looked like just one tube. People who got too close to the tube got a pretty big surprise.
huh, i've never gotten the hitbox to fall with the model.
Quote from: Asvarox link=topic=8622.msg169333#msg169333Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
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cp blast

Neither, can someone make a demo of building stacking and post?

Dont really understand this.. :S (yes, i'm quite dumb :( )
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yetshi

i demoed it but i think that tricks going to be clan only.

Taiyo.uk

Right, to do that you build the turrets here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10974774@N00/314595091/

Then they fall like this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10974774@N00/314595092/

And produce a stack like this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10974774@N00/314595093/
Notice how the hitboxes are stacked.

If you get it just right, you can even build them horizontally:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10974774@N00/314595095/

Edit: I built a repeater nearby, and was standing on another turret that I had built while taking those screens.

cp blast

Wow, thats cool!

I'm going to spend time on my server trying to do that.


EDIT: so hard!! a demo would be extremely nice :P
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Undeference


svn 866 cgame a few minutes ago
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Quote from: tuple on February 15, 2008, 11:54:10 PMThats what we need, helpful players, not more powerful admins.

Evlesoa

except u cant really do that... cuz... on the map ATCS, u cant do it... in alien bases, wherever... i mean, it only works on some maps, and its not "too" useful

techhead

You can do it on any sharp ledge, actually.
Stand on the ledge, and start building.
Walk twoards the edge until the building picture "drops" and remains green. If you walk farther, the ledge will obstruct your building, and the plan will turn red.
The hitbox is actually on top of the ledge and you can walk under it while appearing to be inside it.
The easiest place to prectice this is on Tremor.
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Undeference

Quote from: techheadYou can do it on any sharp ledge, actually.
Stand on the ledge, and start building.
Walk twoards the edge until the building picture "drops" and remains green. If you walk farther, the ledge will obstruct your building, and the plan will turn red.
The hitbox is actually on top of the ledge and you can walk under it while appearing to be inside it.
The easiest place to prectice this is on Tremor.
That is not what this thread is about and that bug was mostly fixed long ago. What is happening here is a buildable (bbox and all) moves while it is constructed, freeing up the original construction location. If a new buildable is placed in the same spot as the previous one was, it will move too, resulting in one building on another.

In this particular case, the turret slid down a low slope. When the turret was at a bottom, a new one could not be placed in the same spot, so I had to reset the build timer to start building the second turret while the first one was still moving.
This is underground on openfield_beta2.
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Quote from: tuple on February 15, 2008, 11:54:10 PMThats what we need, helpful players, not more powerful admins.

kevlarman

Quote from: Undeference
Quote from: techheadYou can do it on any sharp ledge, actually.
Stand on the ledge, and start building.
Walk twoards the edge until the building picture "drops" and remains green. If you walk farther, the ledge will obstruct your building, and the plan will turn red.
The hitbox is actually on top of the ledge and you can walk under it while appearing to be inside it.
The easiest place to prectice this is on Tremor.
That is not what this thread is about and that bug was mostly fixed long ago.
this particular bug isn't fixed at all actually
Quote from: Asvarox link=topic=8622.msg169333#msg169333Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
the dretch bites.
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Undeference

the bug where the model appears below the bbox is mostly fixed
afaict, that is the bug meant by "The hitbox is actually on top of the ledge and you can walk under it while appearing to be inside it."
Need help? Ask intelligently. Please share solutions you find.

Quote from: tuple on February 15, 2008, 11:54:10 PMThats what we need, helpful players, not more powerful admins.