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To flame or not to flame...

Started by Drewu, December 04, 2006, 01:09:04 PM

Drewu

I have been playing for about two months and have noticed a rather large distain for players who tote flame throwers. I just think that if the alien team is made up of mostly dretches and mabe one goon, a flamer can't be beat. I also figure that if you can pwn with just a shot gun and some light armor, that you deserve to not be called a flaming noob once you switch weapons. Any thoughts?
To whom much is given, much is required.-

DASPRiD

Flamer is mostly useless. If you are basi or dretch, simply don't attack a guy with a flamer and take another way. If you are a good player, you may attack him as marauder, else as goon.

temple

Flamer is just a dretch killer or supression weapon.  I hate when people camp with a flamer because they kill friend and foe with it.  Otherwise, a flamer is good for cracking bases at s2.

[EVIL]Unknown

QuoteOtherwise, a flamer and luci togther is the best for cracking bases at s2.


u can get luci at s2??? what server is this??   :eek:
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temple

Quote from: [EVIL]Unknown
QuoteOtherwise, a flamer and luci togther is the best for cracking bases at s2.


u can get luci at s2??? what server is this??   :eek:
My bad.  Flamer is good for the alien base at s2 if the base isn't too tall.

Stof

Flamer is a weird weapon. It is the last human weapon I'm training to use ( blaster came before that one too ;) ) and frankly, that weapon is weak. Sure it is a great dretch killer, but the effects are so random that you are as scared as the aliens when you use it. There's no way to tell when that dretch will pass through your firewall as if it wasn't here and kill you :)
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[Kcorp]Noobius

i tend to stay a good distance away from people with flamers. i usually end up being bitten by some silly dretch because the noob in front that likes pretty colors took 90% of my hp ><

is there really any point to that weapon?
It's actualy Noobius but i can't be bothered to change it ^^

Quick, name two famous female inventors. Too tough? Ok, just name one.

Neo

Its more for hosing structures than being an effective weapon. It kills fasters quick ish and deals with any dretches that pop out.

People who try use it as a real offensive weapon against any alien that can move around is just being silly.

rasz_pl

Flamer is a "get s3 quick" weapon, there are ALWAYS lamers in alien team willing to dretch the flamer guy, just ask Pong :/

gareth

flamers are great. you kill goons and tyrants much easier than with luci.

Survivor

Flamers are great near slow opening doors with escaping aliens, just walk up and flame away.
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PIE

They are great for trapping aliens in rooms... especially when you've thrown a nade in the room. If you fill the door up with flames.. most of the time they will try to brave the nade and get exploded.

Diggs

Very few players can use the flamer safely.  Most are as damaging to their own team as they are to the alien team, and most never know it as was previously mentioned.  A flamer can drain 90% of the health away from a teamate and you will never know it and he will rarely say something because there was no TK.

I have disdain for most flamers and if they go left, I will go right and stay as far away as possible.  But, as PIE said, there are uses for the flamer but it takes the right player to find them safely.

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Lava Croft

Oh, I guess you guys are talking about that gun that always makes me kill myself. Pretty annoying for small Aliens, yes. Good gun, makes Aliens die fast.

Drewu

I mainly use it against incoming goons and dretches, because the goons get blocked by the dretches, making it an easy two in one kill, plus it lowers the opposing teams moral (STOP BLOCKING ME YOU @!#$@#$). I just don't like it when they hurl insults at ME because they died.
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Door Slammer

Flame is a good weapon to level up your character with, as long as your only going for dretch's and basi's.  

IMO the weapon deals far to much damage to human structures and other humans to be used for more than just dretch sweeping.

Survivor

Quote from: Door SlammerFlame is a good weapon to level up your character with, as long as your only going for dretch's and basi's.  

IMO the weapon deals far to much damage to human structures and other humans to be used for more than just dretch sweeping.

Hint: Stop camping.
I'm busy. I'll ignore you later.

Diggs

Quote from: DrewuI mainly use it against incoming goons and dretches,

So you do use it in the Hummie base area to block incoming.  I can see where the disdain comes from then.  You are probably damaging allot of teamates and human structures without even knowing it.  I would suggest you take your flamer to their (alien) base and use it there when your teamates are not around.

But, that is just my opinion and opinions are like....

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Door Slammer

Quote from: Survivor
Quote from: Door SlammerFlame is a good weapon to level up your character with, as long as your only going for dretch's and basi's.  

IMO the weapon deals far to much damage to human structures and other humans to be used for more than just dretch sweeping.

Hint: Stop camping.

:roll:

Aliens attack the human base, humans come back to defend it, flamer destroys turrets/ reactor/ armory/ medi while trying to stop the mara.  That is not "camping", that is a useless base defense weapon.

On the subject of camping; nothing wrong with staying in base and killing the occasional alien while building credets for armor, etc., than rushing out over and over into the jaws of "camping" tyrants and goons.

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PIE

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You can use the flamer on cows to make them tastey.

Diggs

Quote from: PIE
Quote from: vcxzetI just wanted to say moo
You can use the flamer on cows to make them tastey.

Don't forget to rotate them slowly and baste often.

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Survivor

Quote from: Door Slammer
Quote from: Survivor
Quote from: Door SlammerFlame is a good weapon to level up your character with, as long as your only going for dretch's and basi's.  

IMO the weapon deals far to much damage to human structures and other humans to be used for more than just dretch sweeping.

Hint: Stop camping.

:roll:

Aliens attack the human base, humans come back to defend it, flamer destroys turrets/ reactor/ armory/ medi while trying to stop the mara.  That is not "camping", that is a useless base defense weapon.

On the subject of camping; nothing wrong with staying in base and killing the occasional alien while building credets for armor, etc., than rushing out over and over into the jaws of "camping" tyrants and goons.

Any half ass wouldn't fire a flamer in their base when building friendly fire is on, you buy another weapon for that, if you can't you misjudged and are better of letting other teammates take care of it.
So if you're hitting your own buildings a lot you must be camping with it.

I personally have nothing against camping. I have something against camping stupidly.
I'm busy. I'll ignore you later.

Caveman

Quote from: Diggs
Quote from: PIE
Quote from: vcxzetI just wanted to say moo
You can use the flamer on cows to make them tastey.

Don't forget to rotate them slowly and baste often.

Diggs

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Door Slammer

Quote from: Survivor
Quote from: Door Slammer
Quote from: Survivor
Quote from: Door SlammerFlame is a good weapon to level up your character with, as long as your only going for dretch's and basi's.  

IMO the weapon deals far to much damage to human structures and other humans to be used for more than just dretch sweeping.

Hint: Stop camping.

:roll:

Aliens attack the human base, humans come back to defend it, flamer destroys turrets/ reactor/ armory/ medi while trying to stop the mara.  That is not "camping", that is a useless base defense weapon.

On the subject of camping; nothing wrong with staying in base and killing the occasional alien while building credets for armor, etc., than rushing out over and over into the jaws of "camping" tyrants and goons.

Any half ass wouldn't fire a flamer in their base when building friendly fire is on, you buy another weapon for that, if you can't you misjudged and are better of letting other teammates take care of it.
So if you're hitting your own buildings a lot you must be camping with it.

I personally have nothing against camping. I have something against camping stupidly.

You miss the point completely in your haste to call someone a camper.  Learn to read what I wrote, rather than what you appear to want to see.

The fact is the flamer does deal out an impressive amount of damage to human defenses, and for that reason I only use it for the occasional dretch sweep as its use as a defensive weapon is nil.

techhead

If I'm a mara and I see a flame-thrower in a group, I'll attack his friends first. They make easy kills with his help, and then I go for him.
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_Equilibrium_

i'm just absolutely horrific at the flamer. the only times i attempt using it is on servers with FF off. although i am getting better at the MD, and i used to suck with that too, so maybe i can get better at the flamer as well.

Survivor

Quote from: Door Slammer
Quote from: Survivor
Quote from: Door Slammer
Quote from: Survivor
Quote from: Door SlammerFlame is a good weapon to level up your character with, as long as your only going for dretch's and basi's.  

IMO the weapon deals far to much damage to human structures and other humans to be used for more than just dretch sweeping.

Hint: Stop camping.

:roll:

Aliens attack the human base, humans come back to defend it, flamer destroys turrets/ reactor/ armory/ medi while trying to stop the mara.  That is not "camping", that is a useless base defense weapon.

On the subject of camping; nothing wrong with staying in base and killing the occasional alien while building credets for armor, etc., than rushing out over and over into the jaws of "camping" tyrants and goons.

Any half ass wouldn't fire a flamer in their base when building friendly fire is on, you buy another weapon for that, if you can't you misjudged and are better of letting other teammates take care of it.
So if you're hitting your own buildings a lot you must be camping with it.

I personally have nothing against camping. I have something against camping stupidly.

You miss the point completely in your haste to call someone a camper.  Learn to read what I wrote, rather than what you appear to want to see.

The fact is the flamer does deal out an impressive amount of damage to human defenses, and for that reason I only use it for the occasional dretch sweep as its use as a defensive weapon is nil.

Do you understand the point im making as well that the flamer isn't a defensive weapon? It's good for hunting the odd goon who pounces into doors while fleeing. Same goes to you with reading.

To make it clear. The flamer is a weapon for far away from your base.
Can't make it clearer then that.
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Thrash

The flame has its uses sometimes, such as stupid-ass dretch killing, but for the money i would much rather have a mass driver (or almost anything else that costs less).

By the way, when mding dretches do u lead or aim at the alien? Im so damn confused, half the time i only kill one if its inches from my face.

holyknight

flame + bs = killing spree

whenever I get annoyed of adv goons, sniping, I get my flamer with bs and run straight at them with flame thrower scaring them away
XD
it works... mostly... sometimes I die...