Transit is AWESOMO

[rasz_pl]

Link to a demo:
20061211060752-85.21.79.29.30720-transit.dm_69.zip (fast host, saturates my home 4Mbit)
11MB, 13MB after unpacking, 45 minutes.

This is why:
-transit is an awesome map.
-Corbina is a server for noobs, lamers, and moron Americans with 200 ping joining first server on a list.
-every server needs active admins.
-life is full of surprises.
-Shaydee has balls, d0t is a quitter.

I join the server at 5 minute and aliens are pretty much finishing off the base with goons. Lets wrap it up :
5 minute I say "aliens won, or did they?"
6:30 goon rodeo
~12 we got foked in the ass, whers my KY?
~12-15 this is pure comedy gold
 The rest was history . Enjoy.

[jal]

Hahaha. Nice demo. Weird (did you notice the Shimura guy ending score? -22) but also very funny situations all the time, with some unexpected surprises.
I initially thought it was going to be a "look-how-I-own" demo, but no, the demo has entertaining value itself. I recommend it.

[rasz_pl]

Weird (did you notice the Shimura guy ending score? -22)

this is a known trick to build fast there, as you start with nothing and ckit cools slowly you can just build and run to the jump point, spawn build and jump , but that guy was just dicking arround.

I initially thought it was going to be a "look-how-I-own" demo, but no, the demo has entertaining value itself. I recommend it.

that game was 5x more entertaining and rewarding than my regular "look-how-I-own"  or "I won under 2 minutes" matches

After >half a year in Trem I often treat this game as chess. With high killing/building skill you just know in advance outcome of almost every encounter (example me basi human<flamer/chain=98%human dead and so on). Its all about mathematics. Counting DPSes of humans running towards you, tanking damage while killing base counting seconds to retreat, all automatically to the point i can die 2-3 times a map (I average 4.32 kills/death ). All thats left is the strategy - where/when/how/and with whom. Games like the one above are fun because they surprise you to the point you lose the whole picture of the chessboard.

[Karvajalka]

Nice demo, I wish I saw more that kind of matches. That's also one reason why I like big maps, comebacks after bases got destroyed are very unlikely to happen in small maps like atcs or tremor. Aliens can somehow pull it off but humans usualy can't. I wish we had more big maps like transist...Newbies also sometimes bring a nice uncertain factor to this chess game of yours :], you seriously can't guess what they do

[Tanasinn]

Rasz, you saved their asses. Big time.

You managed to distract the ENTIRE ALIEN TEAM by yourself with a Ckit while they built somewhere else, you managed to get S2 single-handedly, and were a HUGE part of getting S3, as well as the one who destroyed the most structures by far.

Seriously, you pwn.

[Diggs]

Is it just me, or do others fail to see why small files like this are zipped (rar'd, etc.)?  It seems to be more of a hassle than it is worth just to save a couple of seconds in download time and a MB or two of space.  I understand compressing 1 GB files (or larger), but for 10-100 MB is it worth it?

(No disrespect intended rasz, I'm just asking the question.)

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[cairenn]

Wow, very nice rasz. I loved the part where you was playing with the Tyrants . I wish there would be more matches like this one.

[kevlarman]

Is it just me, or do others fail to see why small files like this are zipped (rar'd, etc.)?  It seems to be more of a hassle than it is worth just to save a couple of seconds in download time and a MB or two of space.  I understand compressing 1 GB files (or larger), but for 10-100 MB is it worth it?

(No disrespect intended rasz, I'm just asking the question.)

Diggs

not everyone has a connection that can download those files so easily, compressing a 100MB file is much more than a few seconds on broadband, and probably on the order of hours on dailup (yes, people play trem on dailup). how much time does it take to decompress it? almost none.

[Diggs]

Yes, I make the assumption that broadband is ubiquitous, but I would think the amount of dial-up users is remarkedly lower than most think.

I find that compressing and decompressing files much more time consuming and awkward than it is really worth in the bandwidth rich world we live in.  And (albiet selfeshly) I assume that those who have dial-up expect to wait on their downloads and not be catered to by the rest of the world.

Again, I understand this view is a bit self-centered.

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[Undeference]

If the 2MB saved would take an addition hour on dial up what kind of idiot is going to download the demo in the first place? Well, that kind of idiot probably is still waiting for the download to finish (and I just downloaded it and tested a dozen different compression algorithms to see if more space could be saved, while I was writing this).

When I was stuck to dial up, I had images disabled. I wasn't going to sit there waiting for an 11.5MB file to complete.

[pyrax]

When I was stuck to dial up, I had images disabled. I wasn't going to sit there waiting for an 11.5MB file to complete.

That sort of situation is just a symptom poor website design.

[kevlarman]

Yes, I make the assumption that broadband is ubiquitous, but I would think the amount of dial-up users is remarkedly lower than most think.

I find that compressing and decompressing files much more time consuming and awkward than it is really worth in the bandwidth rich world we live in.  And (albiet selfeshly) I assume that those who have dial-up expect to wait on their downloads and not be catered to by the rest of the world.

Again, I understand this view is a bit self-centered.

Diggs

i spent about a year using 384Kbit dsl, and the compression definitely would have made a difference, and another 2 years using 768Kbit dsl, the compression wouldn't have made as huge a difference there (and now i finally have 1.5mbit dsl), but you were saying that we shouldn't compress files smaller than 1GB, at 11MB it might not make a difference, but it certainly does at 40. (this is ignoring multiple files, since it becomes much more convenient to upload 1 file, even if it's just 5mb)

[techhead]

I love transit, except for two main issues:
1. Huge FPS drop in the huge open areas.
2. Marauder Hunting.

[Diggs]

i spent about a year using 384Kbit dsl, and the compression definitely would have made a difference, and another 2 years using 768Kbit dsl, the compression wouldn't have made as huge a difference there (and now i finally have 1.5mbit dsl), but you were saying that we shouldn't compress files smaller than 1GB, at 11MB it might not make a difference, but it certainly does at 40. (this is ignoring multiple files, since it becomes much more convenient to upload 1 file, even if it's just 5mb)

It's not really worth the discussion once you do the math, but download of a 40 MB file at 1.5 Mbs is around 5 minutes.  Running compression would save you about 15-20 seconds.  If that is worth it to you then fine, but it is not worth it to me.  Also, what's a couple of clicks to download multiple files simultaneously.  You have to click on them to compress them, just start the down/upload and go on to other things.  It would take longer to compress them together than the time you save in transfer.

I mix/master music for people and sometimes move 1/2 GB up or down.  I only save 2-3% using compression.  Even at this volume I only save a minute or two.  So again, I say it's not worth it for me, but obviously it is worth it to you.  How about others?

I've rambled enough and I apologize for going so far off topic on your thread rasz.

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[pyrax]

Well I watched the demo but I'm not terribly impressed.  There were only 2 or 3 players out of 20 that were even decent at the game.  Mostly, just watching the bad play of both sides made my head hurt.

Rasz, you still did very well.

[Undeference]

Okay, where compression makes sense is in uploading. Most ISPs provide incredibly slow upstream rates compared to the downstream rates, and while I can download a 40MB file in a matter of minutes, even a few extra MB takes a long time uploading.

[jal]

Well I watched the demo but I'm not terribly impressed.  There were only 2 or 3 players out of 20 that were even decent at the game.  Mostly, just watching the bad play of both sides made my head hurt.

Rasz, you still did very well.

I think you miss the point. You shouldn't be impressed. The interest of the demo is not the skill level, but how unexpected the game turns out. It makes it fun to watch.

[Lava Croft]

Transit is cool. Period.

[Paradox]

Transit, as a map, has potential. The layout, though, is a little unpleasant. Plus it is glitchier than Thermal.

[rasz_pl]

paska! johon aari te? minun suosikki joukkue pelaaja didnt see you latelly on the servers

I uploaded the zip because EVERY* internet browser supports zip compression
http://schroepl.net/projekte/mod_gzip/browser.htm
you see link to my zip on a forum, so its fair to guess you will click on it in a browser . Then of course if your browser didnt decode the file EVERY* Os supports zip compression, so simple clicking on my zip file will let you copy its content without ANY hassle.

can you at least download the demo and watch it?
I repeat this is not "I pwn yoo" demo, this is something fun

[Diggs]

Actually, I'm a Mozilla user from way back.  In fact my first browser was Mosaic (the precursor to Netscape).  None of them have ever decoded a Zip naturally or automatically.  You have to save the zip, decide where to decode the zip to, then decode it.  I guess I'm too "old school" and need to move on to Firefox.

Watch it?  Heck yes I've watched it.  Great game!  Sorry I didn't say so in the first place.  Games like that you live for.  One with a different twist to it.  Excellent!  Thanks for sharing.

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[cephas]

That was great playing on rasz' part.  I liked that base location, we'll have to try it on BG sometime.

Does anyone know how to fast-forward or rewind the demo, it's rather long to sit through all of that.  Hitting buttons in demos usually ends them for me  

[jal]

Try "timescale x.x". Where x.x is 1.0 for realtime, minor than 1.0 slow motion, major than 1.0 fast fordward. Rewinding is impossible stuff.

[Kobrakai]

Awesome demo. bit long, but worth it for the entertainment value. LOL to that run through the alien base where you killed a dretch, a granger, a tyrant, then another dretch, then ran out with 5 health, killed a mara, and then with nothing but a blaster took on an egg. You got balls, not to mention skills.

This reminds me of the game not too long ago when, on transit, the human base got pwned by s3 aliens, and just when I think its over, I spawn and Tremma's built a new hummie base above the escalators. We then won in sd, I love awesome base moves that aliens don't expect.