Author Topic: tyrants (Read 22674 times)

Mopatop · « **on:** February 13, 2007, 02:49:03 pm »

how come tyrants cant walk over dretches?
they look like they could.
i know they can get punted as the tyrants charges. but when u rush the humans base there are usualt dretches which block ur way out so u get killed.

AKAnotu · « **Reply #1 on:** February 13, 2007, 03:01:16 pm »

this is one of the most common complaints, and hopefully some modder will fix it, the only way i see is moveing the tyrant's bb up too high to make logi cal sense, so for now, hope ff is off

vcxzet · « **Reply #2 on:** February 13, 2007, 06:21:06 pm »

increase step height
fixed

Zirconia · « **Reply #3 on:** February 13, 2007, 09:15:12 pm »

tbh, i'd prefer if it just killed the dretch while not hindering the Tyrant in anyway regardless of FF it would teach dretches to use their wallwalk ability if nothing else

Vector_Matt · « **Reply #4 on:** February 14, 2007, 02:11:04 am »

Quote from: "Zirconia"

it would teach dretches to use their wallwalk ability if nothing else

It would also drive all people new to aliens away from aliens.

rotgutt · « **Reply #5 on:** February 14, 2007, 03:28:27 pm »

Trampling dretches is worth it so long as you kill the human(s) you are charging at.

treminator · « **Reply #6 on:** February 14, 2007, 05:38:15 pm »

I wish somebody would make a mod where everytime you run over a dretch it sticks to your tyrant like velcro. That way, I can run into turrets carrying 10 dretches with me. That'll learn 'em.

Undeference · « **Reply #7 on:** February 14, 2007, 05:41:20 pm »

Unfortunately, crushed dretches don't make the best armor.

vcxzet · « **Reply #8 on:** February 14, 2007, 06:26:55 pm »

granger and dretch should be free kill just for tyrant

ShadowNinjaDudeMan · « **Reply #9 on:** February 14, 2007, 09:36:29 pm »

I like the velcro idea.

Maybe if you pick up like 10 dretchs you can become a big rolling ball of death, any humans you touch die, also, the dretchs absorb the fire and fall off.

Oh yeah, and howze about the fartfire cannon XL80V2 for the humans, it requires 2 humans to operate, well, one is the cannon, the other loads, fires and lights the, um, gaseous projectile.

Savage.

Mopatop · « **Reply #10 on:** February 15, 2007, 01:00:42 am »

with the velcro idea, the dretches could become a shield so for each dretch u trample u gain 25hp or something.
or dretch punt should be on whenever a dretch walks into a goon or tyrant.

Zirconia · « **Reply #11 on:** February 15, 2007, 04:53:20 pm »

though if the humans are S1 or 2 then they will 'very' quickly get stage ups if they flamer (or in case of them being S1, chaingun) the front of the tyrant they'll get a lot of kills

techhead · « **Reply #12 on:** February 15, 2007, 09:23:53 pm »

I've supported the increased Tyrant step-height for a while.
While you are at it, remove the Tyrants ability to jump, only used for making larger steps anyway.

Plague Bringer · « **Reply #13 on:** February 15, 2007, 11:09:28 pm »

Tyrant jump is great for taking out jettards in nexus6 who think that building on the lights outside their base will save them and their turrets.

Taiyo.uk · « **Reply #14 on:** February 16, 2007, 01:57:29 am »

Quote from: "rotgutt"

Trampling dretches is worth it so long as you kill the human(s) you are charging at.

Hmm... Just like the "harvester" pickup in Carmageddon; would the tyrant get artistic impression bonuses if it smears the dretchen into the walls?

Sometimes when I play as aliens we end up punting dretches over the turrets straight into the humans at head-height.

*punt!* ..............................................

was bitten by

-- zOMG! HAXX! FLYING DRETCH! KICK HAXOR!

The MC Horton Crankfire · « **Reply #15 on:** February 16, 2007, 05:21:34 am »

Quote from: "ShadowNinjaDudeMan"

Maybe if you pick up like 10 dretchs you can become a big rolling ball of death, any humans you touch die, also, the dretchs absorb the fire and fall off.

Katamari Tyranny?

Seffylight · « **Reply #16 on:** February 16, 2007, 07:05:14 pm »

Quote from: "The MC Horton Crankfire"

Quote from: "ShadowNinjaDudeMan"
Maybe if you pick up like 10 dretchs you can become a big rolling ball of death, any humans you touch die, also, the dretchs absorb the fire and fall off.

Katamari Tyranny?

I was waiting for someone to say this.

Mopatop · « **Reply #17 on:** February 16, 2007, 07:31:07 pm »

wats katamari? is it like somesort of japanese cartoon?

AKAnotu · « **Reply #18 on:** February 16, 2007, 08:03:10 pm »

Quote from: "Mopatop"

wats katamari? is it like somesort of japanese cartoon?

it's a videogame with very catchy music about rolling things up to make stars in the sky, because the king of all cosmos destroyed everything in the night sky

::ThePredator · « **Reply #19 on:** February 16, 2007, 08:43:33 pm »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katamari

And I thought I smoked good weed, those japanese must have the best

Mopatop · « **Reply #20 on:** February 18, 2007, 03:28:07 pm »

that game looks fun. shame bout the graphics thou.
tyrant katamari could pick up turrets n move them, or even nodes/arm etc

techhead · « **Reply #21 on:** February 19, 2007, 01:20:33 pm »

American druggies make you games like Mario.
Really, psychedelic colors, big green phallic mountain, mushrooms and flowers for power-ups, the whole "pipe" theme.
Japanese druggies make you games like Katamari.

Glunnator · « **Reply #22 on:** February 19, 2007, 03:43:32 pm »

Quote from: "Taiyo.uk"

*punt!* ..............................................
was bitten by
-- zOMG! HAXX! FLYING DRETCH! KICK HAXOR!

LOL!

And very true, too

Quote from: "The MC Horton Crankfire"

Katamari Tyranny?

xD xD XD XD XD XD XD XXD XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXXDXDXDXDXDXDDXDXDDDXDXDXDXDXXXXDXD XXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXdXDdxdxdxDXxdxD xD xD xD

The MC Horton Crankfire · « **Reply #23 on:** February 19, 2007, 06:06:37 pm »

Quote from: "techhead"

American druggies make you games like Mario.
Really, psychedelic colors, big green phallic mountain, mushrooms and flowers for power-ups, the whole "pipe" theme.
Japanese druggies make you games like Katamari.

Um, Mario was Japanese-made too, bro. :P

techhead · « **Reply #24 on:** February 20, 2007, 12:43:33 am »

Yea, but it feels American!

Mopatop · « **Reply #25 on:** February 20, 2007, 07:47:06 pm »

but hes made by nintendo, who are japanese

Plague Bringer · « **Reply #26 on:** February 20, 2007, 09:15:13 pm »

but it FEELS *Canadian*

carsonfb · « **Reply #27 on:** February 23, 2007, 03:37:22 am »

lol canadian......

Sushi · « **Reply #28 on:** March 20, 2007, 09:38:54 pm »

First, lets get some things straight!

Now the reason dretches don't go under the tyrants is simple,
Most games (like tremulous) use Bounding Boxes to keep the physics simple and the frame rate nice and smooth. Bounding boxes are basically boxes that, oh well i find it hard to explain, like cover up the mesh of an object with an invisible box so it makes the physics simple to calculate

Look, see that faint trace line around the head, thats its bounding box.
Now, the box around the tyrant reaches from its head down to the bottom of its legs, so the dretches are trampled by the box (hope that makes sense)
If the box was removed, it might slow down the game completely

Well thats about all
Sushi

Heres some more pics

Bounding box

Object

gareth · « **Reply #29 on:** March 20, 2007, 09:43:13 pm »

so is there some reason that there cant be a different hitbox used when colliding the tyrant against the dretchs as opposed to tyrants against world/other alien/humans ??

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