tyrants

[Mopatop]

how come tyrants cant walk over dretches?
they look like they could.
i know they can get punted as the tyrants charges. but when u rush the humans base there are usualt dretches which block ur way out so u get killed.

[AKAnotu]

this is one of the most common complaints, and hopefully some modder will fix it, the only way i see is moveing the tyrant's bb up too high to make logi cal sense, so for now, hope ff is off

[vcxzet]

increase step height
fixed

[Zirconia]

tbh, i'd prefer if it just killed the dretch while not hindering the Tyrant in anyway regardless of FF it would teach dretches to use their wallwalk ability if nothing else  

[Vector_Matt]

it would teach dretches to use their wallwalk ability if nothing else  

It would also drive all people new to aliens away from aliens.

[rotgutt]

Trampling dretches is worth it so long as you kill the human(s) you are charging at.

[treminator]

I wish somebody would make a mod where everytime you run over a dretch it sticks to your tyrant like velcro.  That way, I can run into turrets carrying 10 dretches with me.  That'll learn 'em.

[Undeference]

Unfortunately, crushed dretches don't make the best armor.

[vcxzet]

granger and dretch should be free kill just for tyrant

[ShadowNinjaDudeMan]

I like the velcro idea.

Maybe if you pick up like 10 dretchs you can become a big rolling ball of death, any humans you touch die, also, the dretchs absorb the fire and fall off.

Oh yeah, and howze about the fartfire cannon XL80V2 for the humans, it requires 2 humans to operate, well, one is the cannon, the other loads, fires and lights the, um, gaseous projectile.

Savage.

[Mopatop]

with the velcro idea, the dretches could become a shield so for each dretch u trample u gain 25hp or something.
or dretch punt should be on whenever a dretch walks into a goon or tyrant.

[Zirconia]

though if the humans are S1 or 2 then they will 'very' quickly get stage ups if they flamer (or in case of them being S1, chaingun) the front of the tyrant they'll get a lot of kills

[techhead]

I've supported the increased Tyrant step-height for a while.
While you are at it, remove the Tyrants ability to jump, only used for making larger steps anyway.

[Plague Bringer]

Tyrant jump is great for taking out jettards in nexus6 who think that building on the lights outside their base will save them and their turrets.

[Taiyo.uk]

Trampling dretches is worth it so long as you kill the human(s) you are charging at.

Hmm... Just like the "harvester" pickup in Carmageddon; would the tyrant get artistic impression bonuses if it smears the dretchen into the walls?

Sometimes when I play as aliens we end up punting dretches over the turrets straight into the humans at head-height.

*punt!* ..............................................
was bitten by
-- zOMG! HAXX! FLYING DRETCH! KICK HAXOR!

[The MC Horton Crankfire]

Maybe if you pick up like 10 dretchs you can become a big rolling ball of death, any humans you touch die, also, the dretchs absorb the fire and fall off.

Katamari Tyranny?

[Seffylight]

Maybe if you pick up like 10 dretchs you can become a big rolling ball of death, any humans you touch die, also, the dretchs absorb the fire and fall off.

Katamari Tyranny?

I was waiting for someone to say this.

[Mopatop]

wats katamari? is it like somesort of japanese cartoon?

[AKAnotu]

wats katamari? is it like somesort of japanese cartoon?

it's a videogame with very catchy music about rolling things up to make stars in the sky, because the king of all cosmos destroyed everything in the night sky

[::ThePredator]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katamari

And I thought I smoked good weed, those japanese must have the best

[Mopatop]

that game looks fun. shame bout the graphics thou.
tyrant katamari could pick up turrets n move them, or even nodes/arm etc

[techhead]

American druggies make you games like Mario.
Really, psychedelic colors, big green phallic mountain, mushrooms and flowers for power-ups, the whole "pipe" theme.
Japanese druggies make you games like Katamari.

[Glunnator]

*punt!* ..............................................
was bitten by
-- zOMG! HAXX! FLYING DRETCH! KICK HAXOR!

LOL!  

And very true, too  

Katamari Tyranny?

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[The MC Horton Crankfire]

American druggies make you games like Mario.
Really, psychedelic colors, big green phallic mountain, mushrooms and flowers for power-ups, the whole "pipe" theme.
Japanese druggies make you games like Katamari.

Um, Mario was Japanese-made too, bro. :P

[techhead]

Yea, but it feels American!

[Mopatop]

but hes made by nintendo, who are japanese

[Plague Bringer]

but it FEELS *Canadian*

[carsonfb]

lol canadian......

[Sushi]

First, lets get some things straight!

Now the reason dretches don't go under the tyrants is simple,
Most games (like tremulous) use Bounding Boxes to keep the physics simple and the frame rate nice and smooth. Bounding boxes are basically boxes that, oh well i find it hard to explain, like cover up the mesh of an object with an invisible box so it makes the physics simple to calculate


Look, see that faint trace line around the head, thats its bounding box.
Now, the box around the tyrant reaches from its head down to the bottom of its legs, so the dretches are trampled by the box (hope that makes sense)
If the box was removed, it might slow down the game completely

Well thats about all
Sushi



Heres some more pics

Bounding box



Object

[gareth]

so is there some reason that there cant be a different hitbox used when colliding the tyrant against the dretchs as opposed to tyrants against world/other alien/humans ??