Author Topic: Windows Vista and Tremulous (Read 25519 times)

Trauma · « **on:** February 16, 2007, 09:46:05 pm »

Hola. I want to know if I will be able to run Tremulous on my new pc. It has windows vista home premium. Dont flame me for getting vista, either >:O.

Graphics Card (If it matters): 256MB NVIDIA GeForce 7500LE

Plague Bringer · « **Reply #1 on:** February 16, 2007, 09:49:07 pm »

probably, if it runs on all other windows systems it'll go with vista (I think). oh, and you do know that halo2Vista is the only reason to get that op system, right?

Trauma · « **Reply #2 on:** February 16, 2007, 09:51:05 pm »

Dont know, I've heard people say that its hard to get it to run.

Trauma · « **Reply #3 on:** February 16, 2007, 09:51:46 pm »

Oh, believe me. When I bought this pc it didnt give me the option to get xp, I had to get vista.

::ThePredator · « **Reply #4 on:** February 17, 2007, 12:22:42 am »

Sorry I have to.

Why the hell would get vista?

tomek-k · « **Reply #5 on:** February 17, 2007, 01:11:00 am »

As far as I know there are problems with OpenGL drivers for some gfx cards (don't know how about nVidia, but on the forum there are some posts about problems with ATI's OpenGL drivers for Vista). People advise to wait with vista till the situation with drivers for this windows will be better.

That's all I can say on the subiect as I don't use windows.

So maby just check it out yourself :wink:

BTW. Make sure that you have drivers from your card's vendor/manufacturer as the Microsoft's OpenGL drivers won't be enough (they are generic OpenGL 1.1 drivers)

Plague Bringer · « **Reply #6 on:** February 17, 2007, 01:44:05 am »

Quote from: "::ThePredator"

Sorry I have to.

Why the hell would get vista?

Quote from: "Trauma"

Oh, believe me. When I bought this pc it didnt give me the option to get xp, I had to get vista.

robug · « **Reply #7 on:** February 17, 2007, 01:59:14 am »

Quote from: "Trauma"

Hola. I want to know if I will be able to run Tremulous on my new pc.

I have been running vista for a few months now. Here is what I had to do to get trem to work.

Add tremulous.exe to the DEP exception list in system properties: advanced tab: Data Execution Prevention

in the shortcut set the program to run in winxp sp2 compatibility mode and disable visual themes

I also turned off user account control in the security center because its annoying and I dont like how it virtualizes the program files directory.

Hope this helps

robug

tjw · « **Reply #8 on:** February 17, 2007, 06:35:35 am »

Quote from: "robug"

Add tremulous.exe to the DEP exception list in system properties: advanced tab: Data Execution Prevention

The backport client has a fix for the DEP issue.

http://trem.tjw.org/backport/

I'm interested to know if it works on Vista without making any other changes.

next_ghost · « **Reply #9 on:** February 17, 2007, 09:22:20 am »

Even if you won't be able to get Tremulous working in Vista because of no/buggy OpenGL support, Linux will quickly solve your little problem.

Neo · « **Reply #10 on:** February 17, 2007, 11:18:41 am »

lol, the irony.

tomek-k · « **Reply #11 on:** February 17, 2007, 04:07:24 pm »

Quote from: "next_ghost"

Even if you won't be able to get Tremulous working in Vista because of no/buggy OpenGL support, Linux will quickly solve your little problem.

hehe

SLAVE|Mietz · « **Reply #12 on:** February 17, 2007, 05:13:41 pm »

Probably you wont be able to run most of the games on vista.

What i read is, you cant downgrade to dx9 and have to use dx10, so any game that doesnt use dx10 wont probably work, due to also lacking opengl support.

Now also there is the issue of not having direct-sound anymore, so sound could be a problem even if you get it running.

Whyever one would get a new pc with vista?

You dont have to use vista with a new pc, just dont buy it in a supermarket.

next_ghost · « **Reply #13 on:** February 17, 2007, 05:31:56 pm »

Quote from: "SLAVE|Mietz"

You dont have to use vista with a new pc, just dont buy it in a supermarket.

Actually, Windows EULA allows you to not accept it, delete Windows from your new computer, return the Windows CDs to the PC vendor and get a refund.

More at Linux.com

Ace1 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 17, 2007, 06:04:36 pm »

yea thats what i had to do

Trauma · « **Reply #15 on:** February 18, 2007, 02:43:04 am »

I did not have a choice to get vista. So, let me get this straight. It IS possible to get tremulous to run with vista after changing a few things. I will NOT be able to play other games?

[LG]CommandoPoop · « **Reply #16 on:** February 18, 2007, 04:06:54 am »

Quote from: "SLAVE|Mietz"

What i read is, you cant downgrade to dx9 and have to use dx10, so any game that doesnt use dx10 wont probably work, due to also lacking opengl support.

Not even close to right. I don't have vista but i knw many people who do and they play a ton of dx9 games. Plus you need a dx9 card to run aero so you can definatly use dx9. I'm also pretty sure 8.1 also works.

Ace1 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 18, 2007, 11:55:28 am »

oh well thats a good point

Shadowgandor · « **Reply #18 on:** February 20, 2007, 10:58:58 am »

gasp, i hope that all those flames about vista are just a bit exacerated, cause i'm getting vista..btw, vista is a must if you want to be able to play future dx10 games, so it's not for halo2vista only ^^

mana · « **Reply #19 on:** February 20, 2007, 02:01:26 pm »

mahaha, vista

.. the OS that that tracks the users behavior and disables high quality output when it suspects you'r doing something you shouldn't do, like installing the wrong piece of software *g* .. but i feel sorry for you guys in advance so maybe you excuse my bashing ]

Ace1 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 20, 2007, 05:03:12 pm »

vista aint that good, anyway i heard there is a service pack 3 coming out for xp

TinMan · « **Reply #21 on:** February 20, 2007, 09:39:18 pm »

Honestly, I could handle running Vista as my main OS under these conditions:

Wait for the Service pack that most corporations are waiting on, run it with the theme stripped down to that of XP, I'd disable all security warnings and have it all managed by an anti-virus program of my choice, I'd run OpenOffice or Abiword because I write to file types that anyone can freely modify (without problems, .doc's can get funky), I'd really really want OpenGL 2.1...so I'd have to suffer not having that, and then of course I'd need a good computer for it, when I run windows I mostly run Win2K because even though my computer is pretty good and I use it as a gaming rig, I still don't like my OS's required processes sucking up my resources.

I disapprove of the different classes/editions that MS has had, like XP had Home and Pro, I'd need to have the Vista that I have now, Ultimate, and it would have to be cheap to me even if I didn't have an MSDN account.

SLAVE|Mietz · « **Reply #22 on:** February 20, 2007, 10:55:04 pm »

Probably i will boycot dx10 since my peak gaming times are over, and i dont need games that look "omg real"

Kaleo · « **Reply #23 on:** February 21, 2007, 04:06:06 am »

the OS is giving you shit. stick with XP! vista is too slow for use on todays computers.wait 20 years or so

TinMan · « **Reply #24 on:** February 21, 2007, 04:49:03 am »

Quote from: "MC Artman"

the OS is giving you shit. stick with XP! vista is too slow for use on todays computers.wait 20 years or so

It's not that XP is slow on today's computers (don't assume that yours is "today's computer" just because it's from this decade, my box will OWN yours), Vista will run on newer boxes fine, it's just that there are so many annoyances built into it and zomg...wtf...old opengl.

Odin · « **Reply #25 on:** February 21, 2007, 07:52:41 am »

If all you want to do is play Tremulous, Linux or Windows 2000 will do the trick. If you absolutely have to use Windows, 2k is the most stable version, in my opinion. 98SE is too old, and XP uses more resources than 2k. XP is essentially 2k but with a different-looking UI, and System Restore(which doesn't work all that well, and takes up a lot of space).

SLAVE|Mietz · « **Reply #26 on:** February 21, 2007, 11:41:13 am »

Windows has again created the perfect mainstream OS.

A mainstream OS consists of: Bling Bling colours, Transparencies, pseudo 3D, and inbuild-everything so the (mainstream)user doesnt need any other software.

For an advanced, or even moderate users those things arent really important.

What the user of today wants is: performance, an OS that takes up less Space and Ressources, easy configuration of devices and software.

I dont really understand why Vista is that popular, it eats up half of the performance (on almost every not high end machine) i want to have available for other applications, and truly disturbs me with his pseudo 3d look.

MS is slowly but surely moving in the direction of a Movie-OS, where the computer flashes small squares if it searches and does strange noises.

I work on XP, why? 1st, it came with my Laptop in 2003, since my Laptop is dead, there is no reason to still use it. Still i stripped XP to the look of standard Windows and deactivated manually processes that are completely unnecessary.

My box now boots in 30seconds and is stable, as long as i dont fuck with it too much.

An major upgrade to Vista would just give me things i dont want, higher usage of ressources, and therefore less ressources for other applications (i mostly dont talk about gaming).

Bulbous · « **Reply #27 on:** December 05, 2007, 05:57:01 am »

Q: "Will Tremulous 1.2 run in Vista x64"?

A: As good as any other vaporware!

jr2 · « **Reply #28 on:** December 05, 2007, 07:40:11 am »

IDK if this will be your situation, but I installed Trem on a buddy's Vista laptop (actually, two friends' laptops), and it worked great. I just set its compatibility to XP SP2.

The MC Horton Crankfire · « **Reply #29 on:** December 05, 2007, 10:43:27 pm »

I have to use Vista Home on my school-issued laptop, and I can still run Trem totally fine without having to do anything special at all. Well, that excludes how I get the game installed in the first place, because I don't have the admin priviliges with which to install software. So what I have to do is install it on my home computer and then drag the game's Program Files folder onto my laptop and run it out of that. This may account for it running different on my computer.

I do, however, have one weird problem with it that I didn't have on a Mac--there are some 2D graphics that are visible to me through walls, such as the bloodstains on Transit and the alien creep texture (which makes it pretty hard to mess with structures sometimes as a granger). Anyone know what could cause this?

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Author Topic: Windows Vista and Tremulous (Read 25519 times)

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