Supremacy vs Domination

[Mantra]

After much discussion with various people who all holded their own opinions, my mind is still left blank onto, which of these pretty similar, yet very different mod, is more popular.

Currently both }MG{ and Zilla are running domination, but soon Zilla might convert back to supremacy.

So basically, I'm running this poll as both, a way to find which one is more popular, and to spark some discussion on the subject.

Supremacy:
http://www.mercenariesguild.net/patches/?do=details&task_id=23&pagenum=2
-Multiple points to control
-slowly increase credits and evos over tiem with no cap what so ever
-ability to make multiple reactors each at a 30 bp cost
-removing of a structure only gives half the bp
The mod puts much more pressure onto building and expending, especially humans while the rapid growth of cred/evo makes sure that the ones fighting can keep doing so with what ever weapon/class they want, granted they can secure access to at least 1 point. Much more aggressive, a camping team WILL lose, no matter what. This due to the fact the non campers gain 5-10 times faster bp and credits then the other team.

Domination
http://tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3901
-4 points to control(Ability to make more, but may make the game confusing)
-Hands up a set number of bp
-If one team holds a domination point for 20 seconds, it is considered captured and becomes theirs
On a basic 100 bp server, controlling 1 point basically  gives you 1 node, 1 armory and 2 turrets, while getting a second one gives you 2 more turrets. This means the mod puts much more pressure on securing the points with armed force, which is of course, much easier for aliens(Since they don't need a med or armory close. Because of the sheer lack of bp made by this, it makes for an easy alien victory if the humans fail into securing any of the point. This puts more pressure on having a good team that works as one(Something hard to find on public server, and even on non-public.) If aliens get a goon before you've secured at least 1 point, you can pretty much forfeit, that is a game you won't be winning today.


Both mods have their goods and bads, making supremacy more playable with any server, while domination should be kept pretty much to personal servers.
I personally, if you didn't guess yet, prefer supremacy, mostly because it makes it fun to make many small forward base, and that with most of the points to capture.

[Risujin]

After much discussion with various people who all holded their own opinions, my mind is still left blank onto, which of these pretty similar, yet very different mod, is more popular.

Domination has been around for two days, talk of popularity is premature to say the least. This isn't a beauty contest anyway, run two tremdeds one for each mod and play what you want, when you want.

So basically, I'm running this poll as both, a way to find which one is more popular, and to spark some discussion on the subject.

No, you're running this poll to bash Domination and to get Zilla server running Supremacy again. Mantra, I guarantee you, any game (regardless of mod) without Yahoo is about 200% more fun. We had good times on kevlarman's server.

The main issues that arise in Domination games have nothing to do with the mod itself. Tremulous in its current state makes it very difficult for S1 humans. Domination mod gives you control over where the DPs are placed and that means you can try and help humans by placing the DP nearer to the human base to even the balance.

[Mantra]

No, you're running this poll to bash Domination and to get Zilla server running Supremacy again. Mantra, I guarantee you, any game (regardless of mod) without Yahoo is about 200% more fun. We had good times on kevlarman's server.

Game was tested, and the outcome was always the same thing with any semi competent alien team, not just yahoo(Actually, I had forgotten about the idiot while typing this) An most of the time, the aliens with which I played weren't even organised. I have no need to bash either domination or supremacy. Both are enjoyable. If you wish me to make my first post more open minded and stick to facts rather then personal ideas, then I will edit it.
As for getting smokey to change back the server, he's a straight forward guy that, once he's choosen a path, won't change no matter what you say and such a post, knowing him, won't change anything.

Also, I have a great time playing with yahoo, mostly against him. At least he's hard to kill. Dretches that run straight at you and goons that don't even pounce are a sore eye.

Domination has been around for two days, talk of popularity is premature to say the least. This isn't a beauty contest anyway, run two tremdeds one for each mod and play what you want, when you want.

Supremacy asen't been up for very long either.

The main issues that arise in Domination games have nothing to do with the mod itself. Tremulous in its current state makes it very difficult for S1 humans. Domination mod gives you control over where the DPs are placed and that means you can try and help humans by placing the DP nearer to the human base to even the balance.

The matter actually mostly comes from the mod. Aliens at s1 don't actually need much bp, unless the skill between human and alien team is of about 10-1. On the other hand, most humans nowaday, rely on turrets, mostly against goons and dretches. Placement of the points as nothing to do. The thing is is that you prevent humans from rapidly constructing a base(Count 20 sec to capture the point, and about 10-15 to reach it, that is if you don't meet any dretches on the way and don't get killed while capturing the point.) That means for half a min, the humans are basically defenseless(Considering most layout maps are VERY crappy) Half a min is plenty to get 2 evos, mara jump the few turrets placed, get the nodes/reactor and bounce out with plenty hp. Not to forget on most map, you don't actually get bp unless you kill 2 turrets or more from their forward positions, and most of these bases don't include a med, making it very hard for humans.

True tremulous as a whole makes it harder for s1 hummies, but unfortunatelly, this is one mod that contributes to making that gap even larger. I'm not saying its crappy, its a great idea and very fun to play, but its horribly alien sided, and pretty much, I'm clueless into how we can make it better for the humans.
Maybe the mod will be much better with trem 1.2, but right now I beleive trem isin't ready for you great mod

[Exclamation]

Both mods are different. Cant really compare them.
Supremacy is fast paced, quick building, tons of creds.
Domination is closer to a regular match, really have to be smart with bp and kills/feeding mean more.

[Risujin]

Just played some very nice games on MG domination server. Humans and aliens were tied for wins. MG guys know how to work as a team.

[biotxc]

dom is a sup rip off
where sup is a utdom rip off
RIP OFF MODS FTW

[David]

What made me dislike dom was that it was made to replace sup and is totally different. putting that aside, I haven't played enough to know what's bets.
both have balance issues, come back in a month.

[Seffylight]

Both mods aren't ready for public play yet. Ask me again in a few more versions.

[whitebear]

both are difrent... should not be compared.
supermancy was first but i rly haven't played it so can't say

[holyknight]

woot go MG

and I didn't play Supremecy yet... and I only played Dominance only once... so... who cares what's better as long as they are both fun to play.