Some rules that everyone should know

[David]

I don't know a single l33t player who doesn't follow every one of my posted rules.  If you don't like them, then u/y.

Then you don't know vary many 'l33t' players.

[Xonya]

Well.. First basic rules then advanced trics...

First common sense.

And why did you tell kana i supposedly am female?

Common sense true!

I mixed you up with someone else and correction I forgot to do

[Survivor]

Well.. First basic rules then advanced trics...

First common sense.

And why did you tell kana i supposedly am female?

Common sense true!

I mixed you up with someone else and correction I forgot to do

Right, my secret female identity remains

[Ranger]

I think you guys are being a little harsh on 'em. The point of I got from this post was that he was explaining why nubs are getting yelled at.

2 and 6 however, are kinda retarded. What defines a cheap trick in Tremulous? Really, there isn't many "cheap" things you can do. Besides glitch building of course... (and I believe that's only possible on karith and tremor)

Luci Spammer is the cry of a person who is annoyed that the enemy isn't letting his goon or rant rape you. The only people who bug me with luci are the ones who either

A. Go out 5ft from the base, wait for dretch swarm, point luci at ground and fire. Run to base, reload, repeat.

B. Constantly spam the secondary fire. If you're gonna spam, do it with primary. Please.

[powerover]

It was the weekend, player1, and I have a life.  I don't spend my weekends on trem forums.

I don't know a single l33t player who doesn't follow every one of my posted rules.  If you don't like them, then u/y.

Only losers base camp, luci spam, etc.  If you don't know that, you don't play trem very often.

And watch it!  Just because you are incapable of doing anything but base camping, doesn't make it okay.

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Floodbud.

How many 1337 players do you know?  Some of your rules kind of make sense but the way you present them is retarted.  Most of it is just common sense and some of the rules are retarted.  You wonder why you flame, you basicly just came on acting like you are totally 1337 and know everything where as everyone else doesn't and "haven't been playing trem very long"  God I didn't know someone could be so ignorant and stupid.  Player1 there was no reason for you to try to defend him.  His post was useless irelivant and been posted like 100 other times.  Hey why doesn't the owner of the server decide their own rules... OH WAIT they do...... floobud you say we don't have a life when you spend your time trying to tell over a thousand people how you think they should play a game.  wow just wow....

[sleekslacker]

powerover man why are you bashing floodbud dude ? you guys are in one camp and should support each other. I don't see how you could do this to him. :sigh:

[floodbud]

Ranger is almost totally right.  Cheap tricks are however you define them...varies with the admin.

Powerover, why are you always on my case?  You should be my friend...
make love not war (no i'm not gay)

you don't know vary many 'l33t' players

Actually I know quite a few.  And "vary" is actually "very" in that case, smarty pants.

I didn't post my rules in order of priority, just as a general rule.

Let me add two more:
x) No bashing
--means, if someone has less than fifty posts, it's because they don't spam posts all over, and they like playing trem more than discussing it.  So don't yell at them just because they're new around here.
y) No flooding
--means, don't say the same thing over and over again, or don't say the same thing as everyone else (uh...I wonder who would do that??)

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Floodbud

[Vindication?]

Most of it is just common sense and some of the rules are retarted.

Call me easily entertained, but I'll be damned if I don't at least smirk at every single person who does that.

no from my car

Didn't you just get a freakin' sweet new RV with wifi?

...are all lame not flame....

I felt bad when everybody flamed you...

...take all the flaming in this thread out on me...

fLAME-of-the-day

Don't MAKE me get out the fLAMER!

Now, I'm no baseball connoisseur, so I won't make any metaphors...but in home country, ve'd call you hypocrite.

I only have a couple hundred posts myself.

You've got 200 posts in about 2 months - maybe you should, in the wise words of many, "STFU and play".

Please don't get caught up in Vindication?'s hate-fest.

Your anguish sustains me.

...it's time to turn the page on your calender, pal.

As long as you type stuff like this, I feel entitled to use the word 'idiot'.  I'm foreign and can spell better than you.

EDIT:

Actually I know quite a few.

Sorry, man, but I doubt it.

[player1]

Your anguish sustains me.

Finnish Death Metal, ftw!
Welcome back.
Thx 4 teh spelchek remider.
P.S. Dig the "question mark". Very punk.

Edit: Holy crap you even looked up my profile and took a quote out of context from the human female model thread. I thought you said you had a life.

P.S. floodbud it really was a joke dude

Re-edit:

"STFU and play".

Right you are. See you there?

[floodbud]

Wow, you contributed so much to the thread, vindication?.

You are a hypocrite yourself.

in home country, ve'd call you hypocrite.

Is the "ve" a typo or a lame attempt at an accent?

Totally with you about "retarted"...that's funny and hypocritical too.

BTW, if you find any posts where I mess up accidentally on spelling or grammar, you can laugh at me.

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Floodbud

[whitebear]

floodbud...
Play atleast few more months before your come here talking about general rules.
If you lose as an alien coz humans camp then you lack skill. And if you lose coz humans lucy "spam" then you lack the same material.
You have joined to the large group of trem players on 2007 while the most of good players have been playing ever since this first was mod of q3. Me my self started some what year ago (picked up the stand alone release from moddb news) and started mapping for this about 6 moths ago(?).
You should get lot more experience to even think of accounce "GENERAL RULES".
Tell us your thouhts this summer if your opinion would change by then.

[tuple]

floodbud...
Tell us your thouhts this summer if your opinion would change by then.

Whitebear, You're not kidding.  Wait till the flood of 10 year olds who don't know or care what is happening, only that they can play a video game for free all summer long, most likely without there parents finding out!  

Incidently, most people play the game before reading the forum, so any listing of rules, aside from being mostly ignored, will be read after the fact anyways.

[whitebear]

Oh... Some of you still have parents hanging around and breathing on your necks. Congratz.  :wink:

[Angelwinged Devil]

7.  No deconning
--Don't destroy your own buildings without common consent, or unless you are the designated builder

If you don't know that, you don't play trem very often.

And you are playing Tremulous so often that you think "designated builder" are a standard feature?

Don't try to make us laugh.

most servers use the designate future


to the first rule, I won't call it a rule, more a playing etique. Camping sucks and shows noobishness. And calling camping a strategy and using it because the other guys are leet and you can't defeat them is a stupid escuse. Trem is about teamwork, and strategies, you don't teamwork by sitting at your base on a turret shooting like a retard.
You make a plan, go out there, and fight teh aliens.

lucispamming->forbidden
just not because it's not on the motd doesn't mean it's acceptable, maybe there are external server rules somewhere else.

and flaming is really just ignoring it.

feeding, well deliberate feeding sucks, newbies can't help them, unless they listen to their teammates on a wait or don't go yet or don't go out there alone and get yourself ownzored

hacks, obvious <.<

cheap tricks, exploiting bugs and so on, killing afk players, laggy players etc.

deconning. if you open your mouth before deconning you won't get in trouble, unless people suck.

[tuple]

most servers use the designate future

No, they don't.

And calling camping a strategy and using it because the other guys are leet and you can't defeat them is a stupid escuse.

If aliens don't like camping, quit camping the human base.  Quit running into the human base and feeding them.  End of story.

lucispamming->forbidden

No, it's not.  Lucy spamming is a strategy so many of you have trouble overcoming you'd rather bitch and/or make rules about it. (Not you specifically, Angel, but you know what I mean) When I see lucy spamming, I dretch the bsuit that's doing it if they are outside of base, or snipe them when they are inside base.  I can dretch a bsuit in 2-3 dretches, if that.  And you can shoot at your feet all you want, it ain't gonna help.  Full charge, easy to snipe through.  Secondary, I can take the hit while I snipe.  Mind you, I am not one of the better players

feeding, well deliberate feeding sucks, newbies can't help them, unless they listen to their teammates on a wait or don't go yet or don't go out there alone and get yourself ownzored

EVERY newbie feeds.  You did it, I did it, we all did it.  You can try to direct newbies all you want, I'm still gonna hand their ass to them, and I'm not that good!  Deliberate feeding is greifing, kick!  Not as common as many think though.  I know lots who, early on in playing tremulous, tried to emulate the really good and aggressive players to disastrous results.  It takes a few matches to learn your lesson on that one

cheap tricks, exploiting bugs and so on, killing afk players, laggy players etc.

More made up rules which basically means "if I don't like it, I think it's cheap and you shouldn't do it."

[whitebear]

This seems to become war between those who have played ever since stand-alone release and people after tjw admin.
people who stands behind those lucy spam & no camp rules fit the second one.

I am alien player and i don't see any problem with lucy spam or camp. Newbies are just to be lead to right path and not playing properly is not the right path in my opinion...  We just have to endure it and have fun.
If you get fooled by some trick it's your own problem. Using some map glich like the pipe in tremor just ruins the game from everyone as well as deconing so common sence helps on that matter most of the time.

[techhead]

On a tangent, someone should fix the glitch-build spots in the default maps, preferably the creators of said maps.

[Caveman]

And you are playing Tremulous so often that you think "designated builder" are a standard feature?

most servers use the designate future

aha, so YOU did a survey.
Show me the numbers please. Last time I looked there were more server out there that were vanilla-setup and not patched in any way.

On a tangent, someone should fix the glitch-build spots in the default maps, preferably the creators of said maps.

While it's good idea to get them fixed, it poses no real problem.
Most builder will decon the buggy structures if they are made aware that it's against the server rules.

[p0m]

On a tangent, someone should fix the glitch-build spots in the default maps, preferably the creators of said maps.

This would be possible if those who provided said maps also provided the .map files so the community can maintain it even if the original author nolonger has interest.

This subtle plug to release your .map files has been brought to you by the letter S, for sustainability.

[Survivor]

On a tangent, someone should fix the glitch-build spots in the default maps, preferably the creators of said maps.

This would be possible if those who provided said maps also provided the .map files so the community can maintain it even if the original author nolonger has interest.

This subtle plug to release your .map files has been brought to you by the letter S, for sustainability.

Iirc the reason why some of the .maps aren't included is because they were lost.

[whitebear]

I'm glad that *.maps aren't included beacouse we would have 100 difrent copies of atcs by now compiled by starter mapers who decided to add new hole in the wall.

[Caveman]

I posted a "decompiler" for those that have no *map

[p0m]

I'm glad that *.maps aren't included beacouse we would have 100 difrent copies of atcs by now compiled by starter mapers who decided to add new hole in the wall.

TBH I'd rather starter mappers had access to said maps so they can learn proper architecture and technique.

[floodbud]

I guess it's all a matter of what you like in a game and what you don't.

base camping = really long game, hit & run, no action
luci spamming = aliens afraid to come (except dretches)
base camping + luci spamming = /disconnect
deconning = unfair, player gets banned, game is ruined
cheap tricks (like clan spamming, ganging up and kicking entire other team, or kicking the server) = ruined game

Most servers actually do not use designate, sorry angelwings.  I think you are smart enough to understand what I was trying to get across to you, though.  Avoid deconning reactor, at any rate, unless you are base-moving.

I think this thread is just about extinguished, so if you don't have anything new to say, don't say it please.

I didn't know there were any glitches in those maps, so I can't add input about that.

Signing out.

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Floodbud

[ShadowNinjaDudeMan]

WHATS WITH PEOPLE AND RULES!!!!!!

You cant do this
No doing that.

GAHHK!

Cant we just do what we want. Kinda.

Feeding is a natural part of learning.
I got kicked because I feeded this b suit with luci while I was trying t repair base, wtf was that about.

We do need some rules. But things like Xhairs are only proof of a good coder.

ISNT THAT WHY IT IS GL open source?

My rules

Dont flame.
Dont spam vote.
Go easy on the newer ppl.

and last but most importantly...

Have a good time!

Tremulous wasnt made for rules to be made about it.
Do wat u damn well want as long as u dont affect other  ppl badly.

Wen interpreting these. Use your common sense and dont quote me and whine some crap about how I contradict etc.

[whitebear]

+1
People need to stop giving these general rules... FAQ is there to tell some terms that apear in trem but server admin is the one who tells you what you can do on their server and what you can't

[floodbud]

I fed a lot while I was learning too, now I pwn on most servers (the name's Opwn3nt in the game) so I won't get mad at you for feeding unless it is really obvious or you're doing it on purpose.

Have a good time!

I'm with you there, but imagine this...
You're playing an awesome game, your team has the upper hand and you are slowly gaining ground.  Suddenly, one of the n00b humans switches teams to aliens, spawns as a granger, and decons the Overmind before switching back to Humans, leaving your base defenseless.  You lose in less than 30 seconds.

Let me ask you, is that what you call fun?  Obviously, we do need some rules.  I guess if an admin disagrees, that's fine.

I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

Ditto for me.
But I won't play on a server with no rules.  Maybe that's just me though.

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Floodbud

[Caveman]

That is where common sense comes into play. He'll kick the deconer and gives him a ban.

So you see, there is no need for a rule.

[floodbud]

Wow, now I feel useless.  Thanks a lot.

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Floodbud

[The Neutral]

The whole thing with rules, in my mind, is that they can make a game for fun, some of them atleast, like no deconning, I've played one or two servers where otherwise decent players have deconned the other team, this a complete waste of a good game.

And yes floodbud, while some of these rules may make you mad, its just like government, you dont really have much of a say OFFICIALY until you have your own server or contribute to society(comparison = 18 and working) although my basic morals tell me that just a basic set of rules is such a bad idea, so if I may make a fool of myself and amend the rules(actually morals) for floodybuddy:

1. Be a good sport, dont spam hateful messages at people, its very childish.
2. Get into the game, there is no need to sit and base camp or just stay on the sidelines, charge, humans aliens can still only get 9 evos its a matter or time.
3.  Play for fun, the saying if you dont care who wins than why keep score should not apply in this game, keep score for friendly competetion, there is nothing better than shoving your mad 133t skllz into some dudes face after a game, but dont "Lucy Spam" or glitch to win.
4.  Its a game, just live with the fact that its just a game, so what if you lose, dont go to extremes that will ruin someone elses fun, after we all have to take our turn losing, some more than others.

floodbud, the best you could do to save your standing is stop bickering with power on every forum and try not to be such a a control freak!