Virginia Tech Shooting

[NastySam]

Dude i live near VTech and i dont mean to sound insencitive but today is japanese week at school and we were suposed to be ninjas but now we have to wear VTech colors and jersys   :-?

[KobraKaine]

the funny thing is, thousands die of hunger every day but no one seems to care about that.

Ahh, but is it pre-meditated starvation?  The whole point is that this shooter guy was one messed up bastard who intentionally took the lives of these people.  Starvation is more along the lines of being an accidental/natural causes death

[_Equilibrium_]

the funny thing is, thousands die of hunger every day but no one seems to care about that.

death of 32 is a tragedy, death of a million is a statistic.

sad but true. i heard that somewhere. can't remember where though.

Stalin

ty, i remember now

the funny thing is, thousands die of hunger every day but no one seems to care about that.

Ahh, but is it pre-meditated starvation?  The whole point is that this shooter guy was one messed up bastard who intentionally took the lives of these people.  Starvation is more along the lines of being an accidental/natural causes death

so would you be any more sad if your mom died in a car accident than if she was shot on purpose?

[Plague Bringer]

Are those children dying of starvation my mother?

No.

[_Equilibrium_]

Are those children dying of starvation my mother?

No.

are those college kids in Virginia dying your mother?

[ilxen_nuqil]

there is no "r"
but correcting your name would be
waste of time

[Plague Bringer]

ilxen_nuqil, gtfo these forums.

_Equilibrium_, I was making the point that your comparison made little sense, as I would care if my mother were starving or murdered a lot more then if some person I did not know.

Also,

death of 32 is a tragedy, death of a million is a statistic.

that is a good point.

Also, these murders hit closer to home, i.e., they take place in schools in my neighoring country, this shit could happen to me!

[powerover]

the funny thing is, thousands die of hunger every day but no one seems to care about that.

Don't mock me, I do care greatly about the starving millions equil.  This topic, however, is not title "The starving millions".  Just because more people die of something else it doesn't make this incident any less of a tradegy than the others.  I don't care if someone shoots 4 people or 530 people it is still a horrible and disgusting incident.  While the more deaths the harder it hits the community every loss of life is a tradegy in itself.  I have donated over 1,500 dollars to local charities in helping feed the starving ect.  Every year my school has a can drive(a drive to gather food for poor families for things like christmas) I have donated over 500 cans, more than 9 times that of the average student.  So don't think I don't are about the other incidents but this isn't the focus on hand.  The focus is this shooting which I stand by is a horrible incident and all the people I see making jokes just piss me off.  I wish things like this wouldn't happen and I give my praise to that teacher who sacrificed his life for his students.  As menace said  :cry:   and I continue to hope to god these shootings stop.

[Anansi-Sama]

Amen.  The problem is, after this cowardly attack in Virginia, there are probably going to be copycat attacks.  Did you hear about the school being evacuated in Tempe, AZ?

[Plague]

ilxen_nuqil, gtfo these forums.

_Equilibrium_, I was making the point that your comparison made little sense, as I would care if my mother were starving or murdered a lot more then if some person I did not know.

Also,

death of 32 is a tragedy, death of a million is a statistic.

that is a good point.

Also, these murders hit closer to home, i.e., they take place in schools in my neighoring country, this shit could happen to me!

But do you care about those starving to death in your own country?

The media can partly be attributed for a person's views on one event versus another.

[Plague Bringer]

ilxen_nuqil, gtfo these forums.

_Equilibrium_, I was making the point that your comparison made little sense, as I would care if my mother were starving or murdered a lot more then if some person I did not know.

Also,

death of 32 is a tragedy, death of a million is a statistic.

that is a good point.

Also, these murders hit closer to home, i.e., they take place in schools in my neighoring country, this shit could happen to me!

But do you care about those starving to death in your own country?

The media can partly be attributed for a person's views on one event versus another.

They're not my priority.

It's not like all of Canada is starving, either.

Personally, I don't care too much about the starvation, mainly because of those damned commercials and infomertials with all the 12 pound kids crying their eyes out and the old men advertising a company while hugging one of those kids.

[_Equilibrium_]

the funny thing is, thousands die of hunger every day but no one seems to care about that.

Don't mock me, I do care greatly about the starving millions equil.  This topic, however, is not title "The starving millions".  Just because more people die of something else it doesn't make this incident any less of a tradegy than the others.  I don't care if someone shoots 4 people or 530 people it is still a horrible and disgusting incident.  While the more deaths the harder it hits the community every loss of life is a tradegy in itself.  I have donated over 1,500 dollars to local charities in helping feed the starving ect.  Every year my school has a can drive(a drive to gather food for poor families for things like christmas) I have donated over 500 cans, more than 9 times that of the average student.  So don't think I don't are about the other incidents but this isn't the focus on hand.  The focus is this shooting which I stand by is a horrible incident and all the people I see making jokes just piss me off.  I wish things like this wouldn't happen and I give my praise to that teacher who sacrificed his life for his students.  As menace said  :cry:   and I continue to hope to god these shootings stop.

in no way was that directed at you power. i wans't try to mock you in the least bit. maybe i should say "MOST people don't care" instead on "NO ONE cares".

[ilxen_nuqil]

It's not like all of Canada is starving, either

i am sure there will be +1 starving ppl
when your parents will bite the dust.

[powerover]

the funny thing is, thousands die of hunger every day but no one seems to care about that.

Don't mock me, I do care greatly about the starving millions equil.  This topic, however, is not title "The starving millions".  Just because more people die of something else it doesn't make this incident any less of a tradegy than the others.  I don't care if someone shoots 4 people or 530 people it is still a horrible and disgusting incident.  While the more deaths the harder it hits the community every loss of life is a tradegy in itself.  I have donated over 1,500 dollars to local charities in helping feed the starving ect.  Every year my school has a can drive(a drive to gather food for poor families for things like christmas) I have donated over 500 cans, more than 9 times that of the average student.  So don't think I don't are about the other incidents but this isn't the focus on hand.  The focus is this shooting which I stand by is a horrible incident and all the people I see making jokes just piss me off.  I wish things like this wouldn't happen and I give my praise to that teacher who sacrificed his life for his students.  As menace said  :cry:   and I continue to hope to god these shootings stop.

in no way was that directed at you power. i wans't try to mock you in the least bit. maybe i should say "MOST people don't care" instead on "NO ONE cares".

sorry you just posted it right after I posted so it looked like it was directed at me.   Sorry for the misunderstanding.  It just seemed perfect to mock my post because of what I said.

[Lucifer]

I am really appalled by the childish comments in here, from both sides.  I would like to add however that things are not getting worse right now, despite what the media would have you believe America is at a 40 year low for violent crime of all types.  Things only look bad because the media blows things way out of proportion, it used to be that if 30 people died in another state you might hear of it from someone who got it from someone else.  Now the whole country is freaking out and the president is making a bunch of big speeches.  I know it may seem cold but 33 people will not matter in the big picture.  To put this number in comparison nearly 30 times as many people died last year in my state alone to car crashes.  What is sad is that these people did not even have the choice of preparing themselves to defend themselves from a threat such as this.  The least violent generation in 50 years is having more liberties removed than any other in our history.

On a side note WWII was one more on luck than anything.  Both sides were only won by sheer numbers, and luck.

[sleekslacker]

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[Lucifer]

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[Anansi-Sama]

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Holy sh-, I agree with you.  +1 to this guy.  Though there have been a couple good ones prior.

[Dracone]

Man, I've heard a lot of the details about these shootings..."People got down after the first shots, so he just walked up and down the rows shooting them each multiple times. He went into another room and killed more people, then went back into the same room and shot the bodies of the people he killed before with even more bullets."

I've also heard that a girl was involved that was in both this V. Tech shooting AND Columbine. Dunno if she was killed or if she's still alive though.

There was an incident a while back, like 2 months or so, where a guy went into a supermarket and took out his shotgun and killed 7 people or something, I forget the numbers. Of course that's not as bad as these shootings, but still...bad stuffs.

[Jet]

This is awful

[Seldom]

The girl who survived Columbine survived Virginia Tech, but she was not in direct danger at VT.

@Lucifer: Imo, 30 people dieing is a tragedy and of course it would be broadcast on the news.

[elmo*USA]

new sig =)

[BeerBastard]

Yeah it sucks, what can we do about it? Little unless more security is put in place. Which wont happen because of money. I for one would choose to carry a firearm, but as mentioned before I wouldnt be allowed on with it unless I hid it which I wouldnt do.  Which is why I was going off on gun control.  I am also sure most good people that are well off would love to help hunger, and some do.  I know if I ever am well off I would, however a mans first responsibility is his own family.
 I have seen those commercials, the guy says 80cents of every dollar goes to the children, if you think about it there keeping 20% of everything they get. That is alot.

Also there have been 3317 deaths in Iraq trying to fight an army who dont even wear uniform(terrorists), and the press still likes to jump on any other bad news they can.  The president uses it to shift the media off his back.  

As my final note, I say if you make a rule(no guns/drugs) on campus, you should inforce it. Otherwise the only ones with guns on campus will be the ones out to hurt people.

[powerover]

Yeah it sucks, what can we do about it? Little unless more security is put in place. Which wont happen because of money. I for one would choose to carry a firearm, but as mentioned before I wouldnt be allowed on with it unless I hid it which I wouldnt do.  Which is why I was going off on gun control.  I am also sure most good people that are well off would love to help hunger, and some do.  I know if I ever am well off I would, however a mans first responsibility is his own family.
 I have seen those commercials, the guy says 80cents of every dollar goes to the children, if you think about it there keeping 20% of everything they get. That is alot.

Also there have been 3317 deaths in Iraq trying to fight an army who dont even wear uniform(terrorists), and the press still likes to jump on any other bad news they can.  The president uses it to shift the media off his back.  

As my final note, I say if you make a rule(no guns/drugs) on campus, you should inforce it. Otherwise the only ones with guns on campus will be the ones out to hurt people.

enforcing it isn't that easy.  People will always find a way.

[Dracone]

I'm gonna have to say that the media does exaggerate often. However, they can't tell total lies, and those shootings are STILL a huge load of bad.

I know some people that go and talk day and night about what they saw on the news, stuff happening. But you can't be shocked at every single thing the media says. There's things you have to be like, "That's too bad, oh well..." And dwell on it no more.

Things like this are different. It happened, and as much as there was that might have been exaggerated badly, this was a lot of innocent people dying with no past relations with that insane dude. You can't exaggerate anything about death, no questions asked. The media could tell you that 2000 people were killed by a single man, when it was really a group of 100 terrorists. Makes no difference...those people died.

[Lucifer]

I am not saying this was not bad, what I am saying it is just not national bad.  33 people died this should not make the whole nation freak out and start prayer sessions for the rest of the month.  In the 3 states I live very close too(right on the border) at least 45 people will die this month in car accidents, more will die from strokes and heart attacks.  Why do none of those people get news?  There are more of them and it happens all year everywhere in the US.  That is my point.

[Plague Bringer]

die from strokes and heart attacks

Natural causes.

Car accidents are not murders either.

They may not be natural causes, but they sure as hell aren't malicious acts of murder.

There are more of them and it happens all year everywhere in the US.

That happens all the time, people are used to it.

[Menace13]

new sig =)

ditto ty

[_Equilibrium_]

die from strokes and heart attacks

Natural causes.

Car accidents are not murders either.

They may not be natural causes, but they sure as hell aren't malicious acts of murder.

There are more of them and it happens all year everywhere in the US.

That happens all the time, people are used to it.

and as i said before, it doesn't make the deceaseds' families any less sad

[Menace13]

die from strokes and heart attacks

Natural causes.

Car accidents are not murders either.

They may not be natural causes, but they sure as hell aren't malicious acts of murder.

There are more of them and it happens all year everywhere in the US.

That happens all the time, people are used to it.

and as i said before, it doesn't make the deceaseds' families any less sad

Bringer's point is that heart attacks car accidents and other things aren't purposeful but murdering 33 people at a school is on purpose. One of the ten commandments:

1. Thou shalt not kill.

It has absolutely no exceptions. No matter what.

I think this is a terrible thing and it is only 4 hours from me =\ I was freaked out. Search GoogleVideo for Virginia Tech Massacre, Virginia Tech Shooting, or VT Massacre/VT Shooting.  Lots of videos.                                 That is because of one man. One person. One human being...

Think about it! My brother was thinking about going to VT but, well, I don't think he will now, even though he should because it will probably be safer after that. G2G bye