The Way of The Feeders

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I've seen a couple of explanations of 'camping' before.
"must camp" situations, draining alien evos by massive turret fire with flying MD/PulseRifle support till everyone gets the creds for the lucispam, and the sweet-sweet feeling of chasing 40Hp tyrants running home from turretsitters, filling them with the trusty and free Rifle's bullets.
and on top of this, votekicking the ones who dare to lurk out of sight of the holy Turrets... a.k.a. FEEDERS.

so... I think there are plenty of situations when feeding is STYLE, and more... a STRATEGY!

let's think about this a bit.
and let me remind you what YOU've seen the other day:
you got 99+ frags, proudly pressing TAB and tauntspamming, when your reactor suddenly had a blowing orgasm, raped by some alien scum who fed your mass driver for ages, but got his minimal evos somehow...

[doomagent13]

To open the doors on uncreation.    

[Plague Bringer]

To land some kills when your opponents are allready maxed on evos and credits.

Face it, when I see a rant with 40+ kills on ATCS and I have a chance to take it down, I'm going to. It's not like it can go over 9 evos.

Feeding is good if you're a bitch and want to deliver a much more crushing defeat to an enemy team of newbs. "Ha ha! I dretched ur suit, biatch."

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yes, yes, exactly.
plus:
when Hs3 VS As1 happens, 4 example at ATCS, they squeeze the sh*t ouuta your base if they reach it. SO you have to drain their lives until they reach your buildings.
a 40 HP human will think twice to lucijump near your OM to nade it.
and if you have the booster (s2 of course), you have a good chance to force them to use their medkit before reaching the trappers...>>> "...should've left XXXX's buildings alone"

[Seffylight]

Whenever I play with Khalsa, and humans are camping, he always tells me to go feed them 'til they come out. Then he devours them.

So I guess that's kind of a strategy. Right?

[kevlarman]

Whenever I play with Khalsa, and humans are camping, he always tells me to go feed them 'til they come out. Then he devours them.

So I guess that's kind of a strategy. Right?

he's already decided to outsource his feeding?

[Seffylight]

You know how much he enjoys delegating jobs down to me. :-P

[kevlarman]

You know how much he enjoys delegating jobs down to me. :-P

you do have a point.

[Lava Croft]

Feeding is the gameplay style of the weak.

[Plague Bringer]

So is yelling "Campers" when you're trapping the enemy in their base.

[Lava Croft]

So is yelling "Campers" when you're trapping the enemy in their base.

And cows produce milk.

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"Feeding is the gameplay style of the weak."

feeding can be a weapon of the weak against the strong. probably u have also seen some games when the 100fragger of the match realises that his teammates are going to spectator one by one>>>no spawns...

of course you have never ever been a feeder if you...

... are a natural born professional trem player
... downloaded your tremulous version with built-in aimbot
... you love camping
... you afraid of better players so you disconnect

[Lava Croft]

I am never a feeder because I don't feed. What's so hard about not feeding? All it requires is a bit of self-control.

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never say never... :-)

and of course im not talking about being a goon's dentist all the time.

but to collect situations that worth a bit of feeding. its olny to sacrifice some frags for the victory.

typical example is to get the enemy busy at the corridors of ATCS, while other teammate is raping their spawns and main structures while their base is unprotected.
in this case if you kill them, they respawn and kill your mate. if you let them to get to your base, they rape your base, or your structures kill them, wich respawns them and makes them to kill your mate. so you must avoid killing but you have to be there. you die a few times, but the game is won.
this especially goes in case of massive stage differences between the teams.

got another example? well thats why this topic exists :-)

dont camp, be constructive :-)

[benmachine]

I feed like a bastard constantly because I have no attention span. When I run out of credits I just keep attacking those tyrants with my rifle. I die a lot, but have fun in the meantime.

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^^

...yes, of course negative examples are also welcome :-)

[player1]

Feeding is the gameplay style of the week.

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[Quaoar]

I feed like a bastard constantly because I have no attention span. When I run out of credits I just keep attacking those tyrants with my rifle. I die a lot, but have fun in the meantime.

That's actually not the worst strategy when you're dealing with rants who you're sure already have 9 evos. It's worth feeding them to death if you have nothing better to do, since they cant get more evos anyway.

However, more often than not they might have 0, or 4, or less than 9 evos, and feeding them to death only means that they'll come right back.

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and lets mention when you are near the next stage. if your team needs only 1-2 frags for it, it worths to feed the turrets with your goon or being killed in a "jump-in", if you can surely collect those kills amongst the costumers of the armoury and vulnerable builders. :-)

[player1]

dying to turrets (or any other way of dying to <world>) is, as far as I know, NOT feeding, as those kills do not count towards stage-up for your enemy

I wish more people realized this (or someone would correct my misapprehension of the principle at hand)

also, although you may be feeding a stage 3 team by giving them more evo/cred (if you die to them and not their defenses), sometimes you need to keep them busy, and away from your structures, and at least they can't stage-up anymore

in summary, die to <world>, not to foe
if you're going to die anyway, suicide on a structure and deprive the enemy of the kill

not-so-ninja-edited, since it's quoted below without the surgery

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hmmm, i'm not sure that turret/tube kills doesnt count. sy told me half of those deaths counts. but i never checked it cuz i wasnt at both sides at the same time ever...:-) maybe with dying to <world> adds kills needed to your own stage warp...
but surely not as much as u got killed straght by enemy's hands, so you are right!

[Lava Croft]

Feeding is the gameplay style of the week.

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Just of the week? You sure are a hopeful one...

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dying to turrets (or any other way of dying to <world>) is, as far as I know, NOT feeding, as those kills do not count towards stage-up for your enemy

I wish more people realized this

also, although you may be feeding a stage 3 team by giving them more evo/cred (if you die to them and not their defenses), sometimes you need to keep them busy, and away from your structures, and at least they can't stage-up anymore

if summary, die to <world>, not to foe
if you're going to die anyway, suicide on a structure and deprive the enemy of the kill

i just posted on this on your seperate thred, read info there.

[player1]

Feeding is the gameplay style of the week.

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Just of the week? You sure are a hopeful one...

with all this h0r535h!7, there must be a pony in here somewhere...

what about that dying to <world> stuff? right or wrong?

@Equi: yeah you kick-started that thread, thx!

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wich is that <world>topic?

Lava is so much above us that he is not arguing, but sometimes coming here and saying that this is st00pid...:-)
and as of course he never fed, no turrets, no tubes, no hives, noenemy, he think this is whole crap.
well i doubt that he ever died in the game.

and this is all right this way... only he cuold've been a bit more funny at least...:-(

[player1]

here is a link to that thread

Lava went away but another mod will come in to correct our thinking, maybe before one of the vets/flamers/attorneys-at-forum/lurkers, too...

[Bajsefar]

Well, there is another alternative to feeding if you cannot kill your enemy.
Run, RUN! Make them chase you! If you know your stuff you will make them waste their time and ammo till the bigger, badder kill whoring aliens come back for booster food. Very effective as a basi, grabbing, slashing and running is a good way of getting attention of players and keeping it.

This works best playing smaller, less intimidating aliens such as basis and dretches, you dont wanna scare em away, and people get angry if they can't kill that running dretch/ basi.

Other funny thing is making Luci'ers kill themselves. Evolve basi, grab a luci, slash a couple of times, back off (luci shots are easy to time since they require some charging time to do noticeable damage).

What does a luci user do when he gets grabbed by a basi? he charges a hell of a shot and tries to luci jump, killing you doing so.

But as i said, luci shots are easy to time, and you are not there anymore, the lucijumper does a completely useless luci jumps, taking damage from both luci spalsh and falling.

Right after that luci jump, the lucifer user is often somewhat disoriented, and it is easy to grab him once more and make him do the same mistake.

But in the meanwhile, he is starting to understand how you are planning to kill him, so he changes tactics, what he does is that he tries to keep his distance, shooting smaller charges.

But, as the smart and fluent basi you are, you change tactics with him. You get a real good hold on him and slash until he stops fighting, stops shooting which means you should back off since he is either loading a huge charge again, or he is out of ammo, and it is more likely to be the first thing happening.

So you back off and lets him do it again. Now doing this, you are bound to take gradual damage, so you should leve him for the bigger aliens when you are low at health, you will probably get the evo anyways after that.

In the worst case you will probably just scare him back to his base, which is good too.

Of course this is dicey buisiness, because you have the risk of catching a full luci charge head on.

But its a fun way of making em die.

[player1]

I did get a luci-jumper to irradiate himself with a cheap Alien the other day, and it was as fun as actually killing him, plus he wasted all that time/ammo/cred/awareness on a dretch (maybe it was a basi).

But your way sounds way cool, I'll have to try that.

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and let's NOTE:

lucifer cannon: 600c
helmet: 90c
light armour: 75c
battery pack: 100c
grenade for proper baserape: 200c
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ToTal: 1065 credits.

that means that a cannonspammer has to kill 6 virgin dretches to re-equip himself to the same level if dead. (!dont let him run away!)

and for your own pleasure you can add his TEAMKILLS if he is with a group and you can confuse them enough.

plus, in case he manages to reach your base, dont be afraid to bite his nose off by your granger - so his full charged OMkiller shot will blow into his own face if you are jumping in the middle of his crosshair. then you can reborn as a dretch to finish him if he is still breathing, protecting the holy Overmind.

[Plague Bringer]

and let's NOTE:

lucifer cannon: 600c
helmet: 90c
light armour: 70c
battery pack: 100c
grenade for proper baserape: 200c
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ToTal: 1060 credits.

Fixxored.