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« Reply #90 on: July 22, 2007, 01:42:21 pm »
We do have an aimbot problem, unfortunately. I still see them occasionally. It was a lot more frequent, but there are still some floating around.

The trouble with not talking about them, is they are a part of the 'tremulous experience'. I don't think they should be a part of playing the game, but many (if not more) tremulous community members have seen them and want to talk about them.

Talking about it does more than glorify yourself. For one, it can strengthen a community to have a common enemy. Also, you might hear suggestions for battling the issue which you might not have thought of yourself.

When people give the following argument..

By talking about them, we're just making people more aware of them, and so more prone to using them.

..it reminds me of the complaints people make about glorifying guns in the media. They feel it will give kids the impression it's cool to have and use guns. My personal opinion, is that the kids won't become gun-toting gangstas unless they've had ALOT more influence than seeing a guy shooting baddies on a TV-screen. They like to blame the media, and so they forget about how messed up the kids life was before he went on that killing spree.

Now when we're talking about aimbots, the risk is a lot lower and the moral indignation toward it is alot weaker. Still, the kind of person who looks at these forums and then decides to use an aimbot would already have the state-of-mind that it's ok to cheat on public games. If they already have this mindset, there's nothing stopping them from looking for the aimbot themselves. Maybe the forums give them the idea that they wouldn't have had otherwise, but what kind of player would a person like that be without an aimbot? A deconner maybe? A spammer? He doesn't seem too interested in playing the game seriously. The aimbot is like bait for all those kind of players who would want to cheat.

It just doesn't sound like a good idea to pretend there's no such thing as aimbots just for the more ignorant of our community.

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« Reply #91 on: July 22, 2007, 11:26:49 pm »
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Well may i just point out, that the guid aimbot only works with the exe that comes with it? Something i just picked up on while going incognito on a server.

So that means basically that they would all have the same guid? Therefore Ban the guid and that = no more aimbotters with guid's. It starts with like 2D or something.


Your wrong actually. [sorry for double post] Edit: Thought I double posted, nah just took to long to type.

Its just plain TJW's GUID, but "funlily" wanted to add it so it looked like he did more work, so he added it. Actually it was for n00bs who just wanted to join the game to aimbot and didn't have a GUID. Pretty smart eh "funlily"?

Oh Null has a trem account here am I right?


Any one who can access IP's wanna check the IP and compare it with Secunder, Devil, or Oblivion [Devil + Oblivion = same] see which one of them registered the account?


Actually funlily diddnt do anything to make it guid. That was vd_scrawni who made it work for guid. And it works on a static guid. You HAVE to use the exe that comes with it, AKA same guid with everyone that uses it. Well most that ive seen.

Lol secondly Secunder and Null = 2 Different people. And Devil and Oblivion are 2 diferent people. And THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT PEOPLE. Gosh the noobs on today.
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« Reply #92 on: July 22, 2007, 11:31:49 pm »
Aimbotters have GUID's now? Onoz...Onoz! Onozed! Onozen!

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« Reply #93 on: July 22, 2007, 11:41:57 pm »
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Lol secondly Secunder and Null = 2 Different people. And Devil and Oblivion are 2 diferent people. And THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT PEOPLE. Gosh the noobs on today.


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« Reply #94 on: July 23, 2007, 12:06:20 am »
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..same guid with everyone that uses it.


If that is true, won't that make it stupidly easy to spot people using it?

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« Reply #95 on: July 23, 2007, 12:22:10 am »
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If that is true, won't that make it stupidly easy to spot people using it?

Well yes, but it's probably similarly easy to change the GUID or make it settable by the client
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« Reply #96 on: July 23, 2007, 12:22:35 am »
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Well may i just point out, that the guid aimbot only works with the exe that comes with it? Something i just picked up on while going incognito on a server.

So that means basically that they would all have the same guid? Therefore Ban the guid and that = no more aimbotters with guid's. It starts with like 2D or something.


Your wrong actually. [sorry for double post] Edit: Thought I double posted, nah just took to long to type.

Its just plain TJW's GUID, but "funlily" wanted to add it so it looked like he did more work, so he added it. Actually it was for n00bs who just wanted to join the game to aimbot and didn't have a GUID. Pretty smart eh "funlily"?

Oh Null has a trem account here am I right?


Any one who can access IP's wanna check the IP and compare it with Secunder, Devil, or Oblivion [Devil + Oblivion = same] see which one of them registered the account?


Actually funlily diddnt do anything to make it guid. That was vd_scrawni who made it work for guid. And it works on a static guid. You HAVE to use the exe that comes with it, AKA same guid with everyone that uses it. Well most that ive seen.

Lol secondly Secunder and Null = 2 Different people. And Devil and Oblivion are 2 diferent people. And THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT PEOPLE. Gosh the noobs on today.


Hi PwNz! I would like to redirect you to a thread to prove you wrong where Oblivion admits to being Devil:
http://www.tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5634

The exe that comes with the bot is TJW's Backport. which most people have anyways right?

I realize Player1 also pointed out you phailed at noticing Devil and Oblivion were the same.

vd_scrawni was probably just Devil or Secunder [Oblivion or funlily] that posted it under a different name to get some heat off their backs.

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« Reply #97 on: July 23, 2007, 05:20:44 am »
Yea PwNz! you were wrong :)
But there was a Oblivion at Fragify <-- Sorry if misspelled, but I was under this name in another game and I plan to keep this name, but I am Devil.
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« Reply #98 on: July 23, 2007, 08:52:53 am »
Yer i thought he meant the oblivion at fragify sorry.
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« Reply #99 on: July 23, 2007, 08:58:46 am »
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Well may i just point out, that the guid aimbot only works with the exe that comes with it? Something i just picked up on while going incognito on a server.

So that means basically that they would all have the same guid? Therefore Ban the guid and that = no more aimbotters with guid's. It starts with like 2D or something.


Your wrong actually. [sorry for double post] Edit: Thought I double posted, nah just took to long to type.

Its just plain TJW's GUID, but "funlily" wanted to add it so it looked like he did more work, so he added it. Actually it was for n00bs who just wanted to join the game to aimbot and didn't have a GUID. Pretty smart eh "funlily"?

Oh Null has a trem account here am I right?


Any one who can access IP's wanna check the IP and compare it with Secunder, Devil, or Oblivion [Devil + Oblivion = same] see which one of them registered the account?


Actually funlily diddnt do anything to make it guid. That was vd_scrawni who made it work for guid. And it works on a static guid. You HAVE to use the exe that comes with it, AKA same guid with everyone that uses it. Well most that ive seen.

Lol secondly Secunder and Null = 2 Different people. And Devil and Oblivion are 2 diferent people. And THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT PEOPLE. Gosh the noobs on today.


Hi PwNz! I would like to redirect you to a thread to prove you wrong where Oblivion admits to being Devil:
http://www.tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5634

The exe that comes with the bot is TJW's Backport. which most people have anyways right?

I realize Player1 also pointed out you phailed at noticing Devil and Oblivion were the same.

vd_scrawni was probably just Devil or Secunder [Oblivion or funlily] that posted it under a different name to get some heat off their backs.

Phail, I talked to vd scrawni myself and he is the one that posted it.
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