Author Topic: pm spammers  (Read 22146 times)

spidey1

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« on: August 05, 2007, 03:48:25 am »
i'm not sure if this is against the rules, i couldn't find a thread of rules for
this forum

there's been 3 or more people going around spamming the 2 servers
i'm a server admin of i'm pretty sure they've been doing it to other serves
that have pm's enabled...they'll spam everyone out of the game, then
sit there and spam others who try to connect, i've disabled pm's and banned
them took awhile but i managed to get there info from the logs

hope this helps other server admins.

http://fallin-angels.org/spammers

i also found this in the logs

http://fallin-angels.org/morons

--spidey

Overdose

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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2007, 03:52:03 am »
PM spam is fun, when you do it with friends. But it sucks when you're really trying to play. Rules are set by each individual server, not by the Tremulous devs (or community for that matter).
Chocolate Milk.

spidey1

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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2007, 03:53:32 am »
yea, but i'm talking about the rules for this forum, if there are any?
couldn't find 'em :)

kevlarman

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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2007, 05:23:10 am »
Quote from: "spidey1"
yea, but i'm talking about the rules for this forum, if there are any?
couldn't find 'em :)
you mean these? trem 1.2 will probabably include flood protection to keep this from happening, but until then you should play on servers with admins that can do something about it (well, you technically need a server op to check the logs for pm spam).
Quote from: Asvarox link=topic=8622.msg169333#msg169333
Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
the dretch bites.
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n00b pl0x

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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2007, 05:36:44 am »
flux is a chronic pm spammer. the other day he tried to overflow me and ended up overflowing himself :roll:
will sort out my sig, or I will get banned.

HOW DO I SORTED SIG?

spidey1

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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2007, 05:40:20 am »
yes, those but i figured there'd be a bit more than that :)
also, there's no time to actually alert a admin, they do it
with 2 or 3 people at one time, by the time you notice, you
get disconnected.it happened to me on my own server, i was
disconnected before i could even ban one of them.

kevlarman

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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2007, 05:44:31 am »
Quote from: "spidey1"
yes, those but i figured there'd be a bit more than that :)
also, there's no time to actually alert a admin, they do it
with 2 or 3 people at one time, by the time you notice, you
get disconnected.it happened to me on my own server, i was
disconnected before i could even ban one of them.
ssh ftw (and consider lakitu's qvm, it has flood protection built in (but not enabled by default) iirc)
Quote from: Asvarox link=topic=8622.msg169333#msg169333
Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
the dretch bites.
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_Equilibrium_

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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2007, 05:45:04 am »
wait. i are cunfuzled about pm spam. i thought it disconnected both the spammer AND the spammed. if your comp is better than the other's though, you won't be disconnected?

kevlarman

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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2007, 05:47:51 am »
Quote from: "_Equilibrium_"
wait. i are cunfuzled about pm spam. i thought it disconnected both the spammer AND the spammed. if your comp is better than the other's though, you won't be disconnected?
it's more about connection than your system specs, and as has been mentioned, it takes much less bandwidth if the load is split among more than one player.
Quote from: Asvarox link=topic=8622.msg169333#msg169333
Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
the dretch bites.
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Lakitu7

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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2007, 05:56:16 am »
Quote from: "kevlarman"
(and consider lakitu's qvm, it has flood protection built in (but not enabled by default) iirc)


If I remember correctly myself, it's there and on by default, but doesn't cover private messages. However, my upcoming release has flood protection that is better as a whole and now covers all forms of /say, private messages, and admin commands.

Kaleo

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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2007, 07:17:01 am »
Quote from: "n00b pl0x"
flux is a chronic pm spammer. the other day he tried to overflow me and ended up overflowing himself :roll:

Thanks for stating the obvious
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Fluxflashor

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Re: pm spammers
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2007, 07:26:03 am »
Quote from: "spidey1"
i'm not sure if this is against the rules, i couldn't find a thread of rules for
this forum

there's been 3 or more people going around spamming the 2 servers
i'm a server admin of i'm pretty sure they've been doing it to other serves
that have pm's enabled...they'll spam everyone out of the game, then
sit there and spam others who try to connect, i've disabled pm's and banned
them took awhile but i managed to get there info from the logs

hope this helps other server admins.

http://fallin-angels.org/spammers

i also found this in the logs

http://fallin-angels.org/morons

--spidey


Spidey I dont give a fuck that you put my IP's and GUID's out there, not hard to change mine and or spoof it :) You aren't dealing with a couple of kids here, we are not finished with your servers and forums. So you blocked a couple of web proxies who gives.

Subnet banning will do nothing, we are unstopable, GUID ban also impossible. Removing PMs from server, doesnt slow us down either, we have a bunch of ways to cause your server hell.

We have only targetted your server, heard a few have tried to copy us and failed at other servers though, you fuckin script kiddies.

Our spammers will become publically available in a few weeks once we finish fine tuning our scripts, as will all our other tools like the RCON bruteforcer and others scripts I won't name at this time.

X0rz spends alot of our time developing things to help fix tremulous. We spammed your servers, you turn off PMs, why dont you go get an antispam QVM like lakitu 7's for you server helps alot. We are a security group, once a few server rcon are cracked I bet anything everyone will have 18 character long RCON passwords. Personally I wont crack anything over 9 characters but that doesnt mean the other members wont develop anything :)

Expect 4 or 5 guys on there next time something happens, it might be tommorow, might be next week, might be never. Watch it.

~ ]X0rz[FluxflAsh0r]

spidey1

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Re: pm spammers
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2007, 08:50:51 am »
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Spidey I dont give a fuck that you put my IP's and GUID's out there, not hard to change mine and or spoof it :) You aren't dealing with a couple of kids here, we are not finished with your servers and forums. So you blocked a couple of web proxies who gives.


easily fixed

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Subnet banning will do nothing, we are unstopable, GUID ban also impossible. Removing PMs from server, doesnt slow us down either, we have a bunch of ways to cause your server hell.


i'd really like to see this.

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We have only targetted your server, heard a few have tried to copy us and failed at other servers though, you fuckin script kiddies.


why us?
scriptkiddies? you really expect me to believe you made this stuff?
wow, you can bind a few keys to spam, way to go you developer!

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Our spammers will become publically available in a few weeks once we finish fine tuning our scripts, as will all our other tools like the RCON bruteforcer and others scripts I won't name at this time.


wow, you can bruteforce, goodjob, if this becomes i problem i'll post a wrapper for trem that'll use iptables to ban a ip after x amount of failed tries

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X0rz spends alot of our time developing things to help fix tremulous. We spammed your servers, you turn off PMs, why dont you go get an antispam QVM like lakitu 7's for you server helps alot. We are a security group, once a few server rcon are cracked I bet anything everyone will have 18 character long RCON passwords. Personally I wont crack anything over 9 characters but that doesnt mean the other members wont develop anything :)


as stated before, easily fixed, lets see you change your ip after 4 failed
logins, every...single...time, a "security team" doesn't go around doing
malicious activities after they've already found a flaw, they post the proof
of concept and send a copy to the devs of that app so they can fix it
you're nothing more than a group of people that have way to much time
on there hands and can't do anything more than bind a few keys in a game
get a life

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Expect 4 or 5 guys on there next time something happens, it might be tommorow, might be next week, might be never. Watch it.


goodluck

you may concider this flaming, i'm just stating the obvious, if it's to much
sorry, edit it :)

if you concider the facts, we have your real ips,i'm sure your isp would be happy to know of this, with all the cyber-laws should we test this theory?

spidey

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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2007, 08:52:32 am »
Trying to force people to fix problems by adding to them is wrong. See plague bringer's 'anti-spam' spam.
I’m busy. I’ll ignore you later.

Timbo

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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2007, 10:59:05 am »
Everybody wants to calm down here and stop suggesting doing nefarious things, or bans will be handed out.

/dev/humancontroller

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Re: pm spammers
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2007, 11:50:11 am »
Quote from: "spidey1"
as stated before, easily fixed, lets see you change your ip after 4 failed
logins, every...single...time, a "security team" doesn't go around doing
malicious activities after they've already found a flaw, they post the proof
of concept and send a copy to the devs of that app so they can fix it
you're nothing more than a group of people that have way to much time
on there hands and can't do anything more than bind a few keys in a game
get a life


Yes but we are not security teams, we are individuals who can't live without fun. Dretch-bsuit model hack found, publicized -> OMG HAX ! Open source -> aimbots, wallhacks, released -> ZOMG HAX !! Sucking security -> PM spam -> ZOMG WTF HAX !!!

And shut up, it's not fun until you get to really do it.
Code: [Select]
(0) hax
for( n = 1;; n++ ) {
(n): hey (n-1) you motherfucking h4x0r, why the fuck do you hack?
(n-1): shut up (n), here's the hax and fuck off
}

DHRUVINATOR

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« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2007, 01:07:46 pm »
Not a big issue towards me.
Just me.

Fluxflashor

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« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2007, 03:53:32 pm »
[quote="spidey teh douchebag]if you concider the facts, we have your real ips,i'm sure your isp would be happy to know of this, with all the cyber-laws should we test this theory?
[/quote]

Im scared mommy

Bajsefar

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« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2007, 06:02:59 pm »
This is just retarded. Stop. Now.

Lakitu7

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« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2007, 11:52:37 pm »
Sounds like this is becoming too much of an epidemic for me to wait until my next release to put the fix into my qvm. I'll try and put out a new 4.x + the new flood protection tomorrow afternoon sometime, followed by its regularly scheduled inclusion in my slick new 5.x release when it's been good and tested in a couple weeks.

Thorn

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« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2007, 12:10:43 am »
This thread has had me laughing for the last 20minutes, gg work newbs.

Patriotpie

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« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2007, 12:29:24 am »
ty thorn, I was everyone whose GUID ended in ^1X0rz^7 :D

yaah spiedy we r ubr hak3rs plz dunt get me in trubbel by mah ISP

iptables, also lol, auto-switch IPs after said x-amount of tries
my ISP is bellsouth-ilm, current IP is 68.221.239.171, hope this helps get rid of those darn spammers! ):<

Fluxflashor

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« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2007, 12:47:00 am »
Code: [Select]
MOD EDIT:No need to give us your information. Deleted for now.

Stop deleting mah infos!

Patriotpie

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« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2007, 12:53:54 am »
omg lfux now u get in trubbel 2 :\
wtf speidy pls dont tell on us bbq.

spidey1

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« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2007, 01:10:28 am »
lol, now you're sounding pathetic, isn't this spamming?
either way, last time i'm looking at this thread :)

Overdose

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« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2007, 01:11:08 am »
I lol'd.
Chocolate Milk.

Fluxflashor

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« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2007, 01:57:20 am »
Quote from: "spidey1"
lol, now you're sounding pathetic, isn't this spamming?
either way, last time i'm looking at this thread :)


OH NOES! ITS LAS TIME THE CREATOR LOKS AT HIS THREAD!!!! LETS ALL RUN AND EAT PANCAKES!

Incase you haven't noticed spidey1, if that is your real name, this forum is filled with alot of spam, and this cannot be classified as spam, it is classified as a reply to your idiotic topic.

AM OWN ALL SPIDEYS SERVARS!!! R A W R!

Circle

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« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2007, 04:12:38 am »
Yep, this might be his real IP 70.48.14.11, not to good with IPs though, so i'm sorry if i'm wrong. (It's a pretty old IP from a long time ago)

Fluxflashor

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« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2007, 05:38:43 am »
Quote from: "Circle"
Yep, this might be his real IP 70.48.14.11, not to good with IPs though, so i'm sorry if i'm wrong. (It's a pretty old IP from a long time ago)


Browser to http://192.168.2.1
Hit the button that says disconnect
Hit the button that says connect
Browse to C:\documents and settings\fluxflashor\local settings\application data\tremulous\base
Rename qkey to oldguid
Boot up trem
Open up console type /exec hax.cfg
Cause more hell with Spidey

TYKTKXBAI

kevlarman

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« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2007, 05:49:31 am »
Quote from: "Fluxflashor"
Quote from: "Circle"
Yep, this might be his real IP 70.48.14.11, not to good with IPs though, so i'm sorry if i'm wrong. (It's a pretty old IP from a long time ago)


Browser to http://192.168.2.1
Hit the button that says disconnect
Hit the button that says connect
Browse to C:\documents and settings\fluxflashor\local settings\application data\tremulous\base
Rename qkey to oldguid
Boot up trem
Open up console type /exec hax.cfg
Cause more hell with Spidey

TYKTKXBAI
70.48.0.0/16
65.95.0.0/16
65.92.0.0/16
209.221.0.0/16
have fun server ops (i think at least one of those is a bit smaller than a /16, but it's pretty close)
Quote from: Asvarox link=topic=8622.msg169333#msg169333
Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
the dretch bites.
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