Tyrant v2

[Werewulf]

Making a new one in max. The old one i think looks like it doesnt give the rant justice. I cant do anims though :< and i need to fix some of the faces and fix the teeth and make them stick out (and more detail).


I can easily make it more detailed for more advanced engines, however I dont know how to animate in max ( i know how to in milkshape) nor port models to be playable besides wc3.

[ShadowNinjaDudeMan]

Looks quite good!
Just need to make a skin, show everyone and admire it, and maybe swap that in for the existing rant.

[Taiyo.uk]

Looks good - I like the somewhat "skeletal" appearance of the head. The only criticism I have is that it's body looks rather lardy - like an S3 killwhore tyrant that insists on eating all of it's kills.

I'm not entirely sure, but it may be possible to re-use the animations for the current tyrant?

As for the skin, make it look like the tyrant in your wallpaper.

[/dev/humancontroller]

Three things.
The chest and shoulders really looks like a man's body (although I don't see what it looks like textured). Make it more alien-like.
The eyes are ugly, they look like fish's eyes. Close them down a bit, make them more evil, but awesome looking.
Could you extend the shell stripes on the back a bit left and right?

So what features will your adv.Tyrant have (or are you just modelling)? Acid spray? Fire breath? Sonic roar?

[ShadowNinjaDudeMan]

No, it will will have the fart cannon.

Anyway, another thing, the Tyrants face looks rather goofy and funny from the front, ppl will die laughing, not screaming with terror.

[kevlarman]

uh how many polys is that?

[Exterminans]

I think bout 1500-2000 polys, or to say it in other words: Too many to use this model.
Try to reduce the count to less then 900 polys and we will see if you model can be used.

[Werewulf]

I think bout 1500-2000 polys, or to say it in other words: Too many to use this model.
Try to reduce the count to less then 900 polys and we will see if you model can be used.

Yep, around 1700, i havnt finished optimizing the faces and such yet. Ill work on the face and work on the back plates for, thnx for crits guys!  

[kevlarman]

i believe most of the tremulous models are at around 500 polys, you should probably aim for that range if you want it included in a trem release.

[Werewulf]

I wasnt exactly aiming for it to be in trem, more of a base for a high res version. I can lower the polies yep.
Here is the old model (not by me obviously)
http://err-overflow.deviantart.com/art/Big-Mofo-WIP-3-2605860

EDIT: sorry, i was counting it with triangles, its has around 900 quads.

No, it will will have the fart cannon.

Anyway, another thing, the Tyrants face looks rather goofy and funny from the front, ppl will die laughing, not screaming with terror.

Here is abit more of an update of the face, teeth and such not changed, just resized the snout abit.

Looks good - I like the somewhat "skeletal" appearance of the head. The only criticism I have is that it's body looks rather lardy - like an S3 killwhore tyrant that insists on eating all of it's kills.

I made him more advanced and realistic, I had to enlarge the front legs and change the proportions so it can look abit more balanced.

Three things.
The chest and shoulders really looks like a man's body (although I don't see what it looks like textured). Make it more alien-like.
The eyes are ugly, they look like fish's eyes. Close them down a bit, make them more evil, but awesome looking.
Could you extend the shell stripes on the back a bit left and right?

So what features will your adv.Tyrant have (or are you just modelling)? Acid spray? Fire breath? Sonic roar?

I want him to have a humanoid feel, the actual tyrant revolves around that IMO but was poorly done, (the structure of the arms makes no sense and doesn't seem so flexible or powerful.


The eyes are staying like that. As they will look like this:

Mind you, im still working on the face and will add more support under the eyes.

Like im sure iv said, dunno if i did..but ill try to adjust the back plates, i may have to remove the ones on the legs as they are taking up faces and look abit out of place.

[kevlarman]

EDIT: sorry, i was counting it with triangles, its has around 900 quads.

to the gpu, 1 quad is 2 tris, i'm not exactly sure why people would ever model with quads, because it costs them (a minor amount of) detail, with no performance benefit.

[Taiyo.uk]

The eyes are staying like that. As they will look like this:

<3

[ShadowNinjaDudeMan]

Better face, well done.

[Plague Bringer]

Beautiful model. I hope it makes an official release, or atleast gets put in a popular mod like TremX. Great job, keep it up!

[Patriotpie]

If by some amazing brushwork you could reskin the tyrant to look like this

it would certainly scare the shit out of me.

[ShadowNinjaDudeMan]

That would make the tyrant some serious shit.

That would be so cool.

[oLz.HisOwnMum]

nice work on the 's head!

lovin the eyes and the skeletal look on the skull.

I've never liked the feet on the tyrant tho, they're just pointy like crab feet - they should be more beastly.

and are you just trying to change the look of the rant or are you updating the sounds aswell - coz the roar of the rant could be a little bit more deeper.

Good work on the models!

[megas333]

If this tyrant is going to be the adv rant then give it the ability to act as an egg that fights, and let it have a charge up kamikazi bomb, so that all life within 50 feet is obliterated, and the  tyrant dies of heart attack. the buildings stay unharmed, and the explosion is slowly expanding so people can get out of the way in time. by chance.

I <3 the drawing. Keep it up!


Now I'm back to trying to get WoW to work without actually having the needed data, and to try and find out how to load Trem mods off the site.

[ShadowNinjaDudeMan]

Now I'm back to trying to get A Crap Game to work without actually having the needed k0dez, and to try and find out how to load A Good Game mods off the site.

[jal]

He can sanely use 1000 triangles for a tyrant, even a pair of hundreds more wouldn't be that bad, imo, but, the very important thing is: make LODs. Tremulous has no LODs for any model, make proper LODs and you can improve the current performance while doubling the current triangle count in the main model. In fact, if every Trem model got LODs I would bet on a 25% fps gain at large vis maps like transit.

[Zyuka]

hurry everyone mark it as adult content cus the rant is so damn sexeh

[megas333]

Ok.. so why not we give the tyrant spawning abilities, or a kamikaze boom attack. Basically the tryant could run in, and charge up big boom by getting six or ten kills within ten seconds of each other, and then the tryant could kill itself with kamikaze move and kills all living things that are human. but not buildings.

If there is something absolutely retarded and made of dead, rotting crap please tell me, but very politely. I dont take rude comments very well.

[Plague Bringer]

Ok.. so why not we give the tyrant spawning abilities, or a kamikaze boom attack. Basically the tryant could run in, and charge up big boom by getting six or ten kills within ten seconds of each other, and then the tryant could kill itself with kamikaze move and kills all living things that are human. but not buildings.

If there is something absolutely retarded and made of dead, rotting crap please tell me, but very politely. I dont take rude comments very well.

That's something absolutely retarted made of dead rotting crap.  :wink:

[Vector_Matt]

dead rotting crap.  :wink:

He he, You have the perfect name to say that.


/g_onTopic 1
Great model. Get a decent skin for it and it will be a great replacement tyrant.

[megas333]

*Aims blarghification cannon at Plague Bringer*





*sets cannon to HELL mode- shoots godlike woodland creatures holding flamethrowers at target, causing forest fires if used while hunting*


*fires cannon*

*coughs*
Now then...
*sets cannon to HAPPY mode*
*gives Werewulf a leprecon holding knives through cannon*
Done.

[oLz.HisOwnMum]

Ummm... just wondering - isn't this a place to discuss tremulous, not have a little cyber-bitch fight...

Please, correct me if i'm wrong

[Scotty]

Is this still being worked on? i may be able to do a little work on it as well, maybe try and lower the polycount.

[blood2.0]

nice work
give the tyrant shoes after you finish this mottle just for fun!
oh and add more legs ! like a centipede oh and give it a tail

[mooseberry]

Lol, terrible necro.

[Johnpp]

Wow. That looks...good. Despite the post date, I have to ask what is the poly count?