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way to stop campers
« on: April 28, 2008, 10:26:39 pm »
its simple but might work make it so turrets shoot at aliens even if there is a human standing in between them that way humans who camp get killed by there own base :)

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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2008, 10:32:34 pm »
Firstly, humans camp *behind* their defenses. Secondly, this will allow the aliens to kill the humans by simply running around their base. To conclude: that is a crap idea.

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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2008, 11:41:42 pm »
A good way to stop campers is to force them to read every blood2.0 post. They will never camp again.
A good way to stop campers is to force them to read every blood2.0 post. They will never breathe again.
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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2008, 12:56:51 am »
A good way to stop campers is to force them to read every blood2.0 post. They will never breathe again.

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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2008, 06:28:30 am »
Technical solutions to social problems...

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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2008, 08:23:49 am »
Aw, stop bullying blood. I admit it was a stupid idea, but give the blood a break.  :D
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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2008, 09:56:43 am »
Blood needs bullying.

That way he will be faced with the hard realities and seriousness of forums such as this, and be forced into less stupid behaviour.


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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2008, 02:07:08 pm »
You don't think the same could work for paradox, could it?
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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2008, 07:39:20 pm »
Nah, im immune.

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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2008, 09:48:17 pm »
Ok, let's try being on- topic here, I feel a lil' bad about this.

Sometimes humans have to defend, (well, most of the time, really) having the turrets shooting your ass while doing this would just be so annoying that I would instantly quit playing.
Dunno if others think the same, but that's my reason for not liking it atleast. :p

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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2008, 10:23:33 pm »
So, you want to punish those players who were attacking the alien base? They run back to with low health and ammo, just to die because there is a dretch chasing behind them and their turrets shoot them instead. GENIUS!

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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2008, 10:35:29 pm »
My best advice for keeping humans from camping in a (smaller) public game is just to not evolve.  S1 humans will almost always puss out if there is a goon in play.  If you just hoard evos and dretch from the hall in atcs all game, eventually humans get s3, grow a pair and all charge the hall together, at which point you run back thru base, and goon/rant their empty base from the middle.

There are probably better ways, but that's what I do.
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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2008, 10:01:46 am »
Most people don't even know what camping is, so this whole discussion is pretty useless. Most people start to whine about campers at the completely wrong moments. If you don't like campers, you have two choices:

You either go and get them and smear them all over their own camping spot,
or
you just say Fuck All and go smoke a cig while watching some telly.

I suggest the latter, it's better for your blood pressure.

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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2008, 01:29:14 pm »
Of course, if you can stop feeding a group of campers, eventually they'll become curious about what happened to their easy creds/evos and venture out of their bunker, at which point you tear them to shreds.
Alternatively, feed them to s3 and cross your fingers, they're likely to leave the base but you might not last long if you've been concentrating on feeding and bitching about campers, rather than building your own base...
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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2008, 09:23:19 pm »
A good way to stop campers is to force them to read every blood2.0 post. They will never camp again.
A good way to stop campers is to force them to read every blood2.0 post. They will never breathe again.
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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2008, 09:50:40 am »
TBH, I have yet to see a fair complaint of camping coming from alien team. All I've seen is aliens whinneing about humans not feeding them, but at the moments some humans really camp (don't attack when human team is stronger) aliens never complaint of human camping ;)
« Last Edit: May 02, 2008, 09:53:11 am by jal »

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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2008, 10:57:19 am »
Jal.  I think the main issue isn't whether complaints about campers are legit or not...

The reason people get upset about camping, imo, is that it's one big fucking waste of time.  I'll admit, I have a pretty short attention span, which is why I play video games.  To join a videogame like Tremulous that I'd like to play, only to find I've wasted half an hour of my time waiting for the humans to "finish building" just doesn't do it for me.

I don't care if it's a legit complaint or not... I'm still going to complain about having my time wasted.  Or if I'm on humans and my team is camping, I get yelled at occasionally for "feeding" because I have to leave the base alone since the rest of my team is full of pussies.  Winning is really a very small part of it.  I complain about campers because they fucking suck the fun out of a game when I'm already trying to blow off steam.
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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2008, 05:57:12 pm »
Jal.  I think the main issue isn't whether complaints about campers are legit or not...

The reason people get upset about camping, imo, is that it's one big fucking waste of time.  I'll admit, I have a pretty short attention span, which is why I play video games.  To join a videogame like Tremulous that I'd like to play, only to find I've wasted half an hour of my time waiting for the humans to "finish building" just doesn't do it for me.

I don't care if it's a legit complaint or not... I'm still going to complain about having my time wasted.  Or if I'm on humans and my team is camping, I get yelled at occasionally for "feeding" because I have to leave the base alone since the rest of my team is full of pussies.  Winning is really a very small part of it.  I complain about campers because they fucking suck the fun out of a game when I'm already trying to blow off steam.

If you just want to shoot shit go play Urban Terror or another FPS. There's a lot less camping there. Trem is a much more strategical. If you just ignore the tactical part of the game because you don't want to sit in base for a while, then you are playing the wrong game. Many people play trem because it is different than other FPS games. It requires much more teamwork. You can call strategical campers pussies all you want. I'll call you a moron for not understanding how the game is played.

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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2008, 10:47:46 pm »
Play the game with me, then accuse me of not thinking through my play.

Tactics is all I have... anyone will tell you my aim is lacking.  There is nothing strategic about s3 human chainsuits (glorified turrets) sitting in their base against a flood of s1 dretches.  When I join late in a game like that (as I often do) it pisses me off to sit around twiddling my thumbs for 6 minutes just to get a goon, only to lose it the second I pop my head into the human base.

Play to win.  People put too much weight on their killcount.  Noobs think they're the shit because they can sit there all game picking up easy kills with from the relative safety of their base.

I play games to play them, but more and more often now I join a game and just leave my dretch sitting behind the Overmind, run down the street for some coffee, pick up a newspaper and come back to find the base is fine, humans haven't moved, and I finally have enough evos to make a dent.

That is pathetic, my friend.
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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2008, 11:51:59 pm »
I join a game and just leave my dretch sitting behind the Overmind, run down the street for some coffee, pick up a newspaper and come back to find the base is fine, humans haven't moved, and I finally have enough evos to make a dent.

That's what i call tactics. If i have enough cash when human at s3, i forgot about my campers, and just run around trying to see how far i get away from H base before dying or having to return for hp XD
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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2008, 02:26:21 am »
Play the game with me, then accuse me of not thinking through my play.

Tactics is all I have... anyone will tell you my aim is lacking.  There is nothing strategic about s3 human chainsuits (glorified turrets) sitting in their base against a flood of s1 dretches.  When I join late in a game like that (as I often do) it pisses me off to sit around twiddling my thumbs for 6 minutes just to get a goon, only to lose it the second I pop my head into the human base.

Play to win.  People put too much weight on their killcount.  Noobs think they're the shit because they can sit there all game picking up easy kills with from the relative safety of their base.

I play games to play them, but more and more often now I join a game and just leave my dretch sitting behind the Overmind, run down the street for some coffee, pick up a newspaper and come back to find the base is fine, humans haven't moved, and I finally have enough evos to make a dent.

That is pathetic, my friend.

You only talk about one instance of camping. I don't approve of camping when you have the upper hand either. However, if there are a crapload of goons and tyrants vs a human team with low credits, I will not fault my team for wanting turret help.  I may linger near base when the aliens are looking ahead, but once the dretches start flooding in with little upper class aliens showing, then its time to start pushing forward. Camping is part of the game's strategy. Yes, it can be used incorrectly, but it can also be used for the purpose of helping your goal of killing the other team as well.

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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2008, 01:06:16 pm »
Jal.  I think the main issue isn't whether complaints about campers are legit or not...

The reason people get upset about camping, imo, is that it's one big fucking waste of time. 
Nah, the reason why people complaint of camping is cause they want to be fed. Here is a golden rule when playing Trem: If aliens complaint of camping Humans are doing a good job.

And this is funny when who says it is someone who always plays human cause he finds playing alien too campish ;)
« Last Edit: May 03, 2008, 01:13:31 pm by jal »

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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2008, 03:23:41 pm »
Most people don't even know what camping is, so this whole discussion is pretty useless. Most people start to whine about campers at the completely wrong moments. If you don't like campers, you have two choices:

You either go and get them and smear them all over their own camping spot,
or
you just say Fuck All and go smoke a cig while watching some telly.

I suggest the latter, it's better for your blood pressure.

It's your lungs I'd be worrying about...


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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2008, 03:50:25 pm »
I know I wouldn't.

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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2008, 03:51:26 pm »
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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2008, 02:01:01 pm »
In my expert opinion, the best way to stop campers is to have moving floors, walls and ceilings. If everything shifts around there is no way for campers to establish a secure spot to hide behind.

Problem solved, you may thank me later.

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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2008, 07:28:46 pm »
Having a map like the harry potter castle, ever changing WOULD be simply genious!

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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2008, 07:54:22 pm »
In my expert opinion, the best way to stop campers is to have moving floors, walls and ceilings. If everything shifts around there is no way for campers to establish a secure spot to hide behind.

Problem solved, you may thank me later.

This seems slightly familiar....  ;)

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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2008, 11:24:18 pm »
ZOMG! Genius! Pure genius!

Are you just posting to read your own writing?

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Re: way to stop campers
« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2008, 12:01:35 am »
ZOMG! Genius! Pure genius!

Are you just posting to read your own writing?

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