Author Topic: Hungarian Tesco selling Tremulous for money!?! (Read 31983 times)

Tycho · « **Reply #30 on:** May 05, 2008, 08:48:14 pm »

Quote from: NiTRoX on May 05, 2008, 08:30:55 pm

Lesson of the day: Don't buy stuff from Hungary (:

let me fix that for you: avoid Hungarian Tesco/Auchan/Media Markt like the plague...

Snake · « **Reply #31 on:** May 05, 2008, 08:51:57 pm »

Quote from: Tycho on May 05, 2008, 08:48:14 pm

Quote from: NiTRoX on May 05, 2008, 08:30:55 pm
Lesson of the day: Don't buy stuff from Hungary (:

let me fix that for you: avoid Hungarian Tesco/Auchan/Media Markt like the plague...

Lemme fix that for you: Dont buy anything from hungaria (=

Amtie · « **Reply #32 on:** May 06, 2008, 12:48:47 am »

Wow, that box art is hawt. It actually looks like a real buyable game. XD Although the font "Tremulous" is in on the front sucks.

Oh, and that metal thing? It's a dragoon who's eaten too much lead. :3

Her3tic · « **Reply #33 on:** May 06, 2008, 03:07:44 pm »

Lame to gain money from a game you took on the net...

I would not apreciate it if i were the dev team

Lava Croft · « **Reply #34 on:** May 06, 2008, 03:20:45 pm »

Quote from: Her3tic on May 06, 2008, 03:07:44 pm

Lame to gain money from a game you took on the net...

I would not apreciate it if i were the dev team

Then the Devs should not have used the GPL license.

Her3tic · « **Reply #35 on:** May 06, 2008, 04:10:05 pm »

Dont you think it's odd that this license give the right to sell what everyone did?
Someone take it and sell it without even made it.
If it's free for everyone, it should be everywhere and no one would make profit.

Bah it's only what i think, i have nothing to complain for, it's only my opinion.

Paradox · « **Reply #36 on:** May 06, 2008, 07:24:45 pm »

Hmm, someone should go take the game, and carry around a copy of the GPL license. Show them that it is legally free.

NiTRoX · « **Reply #37 on:** May 06, 2008, 07:26:33 pm »

Ya, GPL is teh Jesus of the software licenses

Kohrylite · « **Reply #38 on:** May 06, 2008, 07:42:05 pm »

I just want to know who is dumb enough to pay money for it. Maybe I'm an odd case, but I don't make impulse purchases, if I see a game that looks kinda cool, I look it up to see what other people thought of it, and if it really is worth the cash I'll be spending on it. Or I torrent it first to try it, then buy the legal copy if I like it.

Really, it's only the impulse shoppers that will get screwed by this... and they probably have it coming for being so naive.

ChaosSquirrel · « **Reply #39 on:** May 06, 2008, 07:47:55 pm »

Ah. I was hoping the cover would be a pouncing Dragoon. That would be awesome.

Her3tic · « **Reply #40 on:** May 06, 2008, 08:02:36 pm »

Nah, only a steel-made-of-Spider not related to the game itself...

Who · « **Reply #41 on:** May 06, 2008, 08:05:03 pm »

Quote from: NiTRoX on May 06, 2008, 07:26:33 pm

Ya, GPL is teh Jesus of the software licenses

It's obvious that you spent as much effort into this post as you did creating that wallpaper.

NiTRoX · « **Reply #42 on:** May 06, 2008, 08:08:44 pm »

Quote from: Who on May 06, 2008, 08:05:03 pm

Quote from: NiTRoX on May 06, 2008, 07:26:33 pm
Ya, GPL is teh Jesus of the software licenses

It's obvious that you spent as much effort into this post as you did creating that wallpaper.

No shit.

Let me file that under the shit I allready know.

Who · « **Reply #43 on:** May 06, 2008, 08:13:08 pm »

Quote from: NiTRoX on May 06, 2008, 08:08:44 pm

No shit.

Let me file that under the shit I allready know.

You have some anger issues you should be working on. Right now.

NiTRoX · « **Reply #44 on:** May 06, 2008, 08:13:42 pm »

Quote from: Who on May 06, 2008, 08:13:08 pm

Quote from: NiTRoX on May 06, 2008, 08:08:44 pm
No shit.

Let me file that under the shit I allready know.

You have some anger issues you should be working on. Right now.

Yes daddy.

On it.

Bajsefar · « **Reply #45 on:** May 06, 2008, 11:23:46 pm »

I just smelled my balls.
They smell like....
..Nitrox.

/----> on topic:
Trem being under GPL now is kind of sad... They could have demanded a lot of money if the product was theirs..

But then again, we would't have had an AWESOME and FREE game to play, so I am self contradicting, twisting my head in several directions at the same time.

Boom!

your face · « **Reply #46 on:** May 07, 2008, 12:48:19 am »

I'd better go start selling burned copies on the street! xD

Lol, that really is kinda funny, though.

Ages 10+? ;P

NiTRoX · « **Reply #47 on:** May 07, 2008, 08:29:28 am »

Quote from: Bajsefar on May 06, 2008, 11:23:46 pm

I just smelled my balls.
They smell like....
..Nitrox.

/----> on topic:
Trem being under GPL now is kind of sad... They could have demanded a lot of money if the product was theirs..
But then again, we would't have had an AWESOME and FREE game to play, so I am self contradicting, twisting my head in several directions at the same time.

Boom!

No wonder you enjoy smelling your balls

your face · « **Reply #48 on:** May 07, 2008, 04:09:45 pm »

Just shuddup, and get back on, erm, off-topic.

Amtie · « **Reply #49 on:** May 08, 2008, 12:17:24 am »

Well who ever provided tesco with those boxes need to be shot, hanged, drawn, and quartered. Preferably while still alive. Then maybe skinned alive and dumped in a vat full of salt <3

Death On Ice · « **Reply #50 on:** May 08, 2008, 12:49:25 am »

If it's on a DVD it probably includes maps, and some of those probably have different licenses... in short, depending on what maps may be packaged with it, they could be sued.

mooseberry · « **Reply #51 on:** May 08, 2008, 01:59:16 am »

If they were smart they would only include stock maps, which is easier any ways. Plus afaik most Tremulous maps are realesed under the gpl. And even if they weren't, I doubt the map makers would bother to sue them. In short, they look pretty safe.

/dev/humancontroller · « **Reply #52 on:** May 08, 2008, 03:44:10 pm »

What's this bullshit about Tremulous being under the GPL?

The code, binaries, and qvms are licensed under the GNU General Public License 2. That license is about publicizing software. It says that you may not change the license, and if you make modifications to the software, and distribute it, you must provide the changes in source form too. There is not a single word about using the content commercially, and "selling" the code is explicitly allowed: "You may charge a fee for the physical act of transferring a copy, and you may at your option offer warranty protection in exchange for a fee."

Textures, maps, models, animations, sounds, music, etc. are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 license. That license is used for non-programmable art. As with the GPL, you can make money with CC'd content.

I don't know what to say about licensing art under the GPL (is it even possible?). Since the GPL states that you must include sources to all your distributions, if you release maps under the GPL, you must also give its sources out too.

Also, a lot of map .pk3s don't contain any licensing information, which means that you are allowed to use it for whatever you want. If the file was at some point distributed with a license, I believe it is the liability of the entity that broke the chain.

Quote from: Lava Croft on May 06, 2008, 03:20:45 pm

Then the Devs should not have used the GPL license.

That is just plain invalid! Nobody has "chosen" that license. People can borrow GPL'd and CC'd content, which is a opportunity for the Devs to create something. It's not that the Devs decided to give their own work out like that. If they owned the content, they would have permission to rerelease it under any license.

What about the BSD license? It's 2 sentences long: you may not remove the copyright, and you must reproduce the copyright. (Interpretation: if you redistribute copies of the software, please give the author some credit.) And the BSD guys DO provide polished code for free and their intent is to make it available for commercial use.

PS: Knowledge is power and is to be respected. If someone does not know anything about copyleft licenses, then let them pay for Tremulous.

NiTRoX · « **Reply #53 on:** May 08, 2008, 05:34:01 pm »

http://artlibre.org/licence/lal/en/

Tremulant · « **Reply #54 on:** May 15, 2008, 12:27:40 am »

I don't see why this is a problem, as a number of people have already pointed out, the license under which Trem is released allows for its resale. Just think of this as a neat way to expand the reach of the trem community, i would probably grumble a little if the price were extortionate, though i suppose it might be considered such for a game with no single player content but then no one seems to mind these days *coughWOWcough*, for just over 6 quid it's not too bad. I'd love to see tesco offering more Free and open source software at reasonable prices, it would do a lot to help marketshare.

KamikOzzy · « **Reply #55 on:** May 15, 2008, 06:46:27 am »

Thread of the year. Thanks, Tycho

ChaosSquirrel · « **Reply #56 on:** May 15, 2008, 07:18:45 pm »

In my opinion, it's simply a matter of morals. You want to "Legally" distribute someone else's work without compensation? Fine. But I'll choose not to.

Atom Eve · « **Reply #57 on:** May 17, 2008, 04:35:59 pm »

When I've imagined a Tremulous boxed version, I always imagined that it'd be something simple and classy, ala the Quake series box art. Not that the people that produced this box would have really cared much about aesthetics. I imagine that cover art is just a swiped piece of art from somewhere off the internet with a cruddy title font added in Photoshop.

Amtie · « **Reply #58 on:** May 17, 2008, 06:07:39 pm »

People who know that this game is some open-source FPS who sell it when they don't even own it wouldn't spend so much time/effort into stuff like that.

Samurai.mac · « **Reply #59 on:** June 30, 2008, 12:06:15 am »

Surely they have to have some sort of credit/contact details on the box, which would inevitably lead people to this site where they would see it's free, though? $:-\$ . That's it, let's all go and camp in the supermarket and bleed the customers!

Edit: Oh, and I get to decon the checkouts!

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Author Topic: Hungarian Tesco selling Tremulous for money!?! (Read 31983 times)

Lava Croft