TOT --- Tremulous Open Tournament

[MayheM]

Thanks Briaeros.

It's the opportunity for all to make live 'a little more' tremulous. In everything cases ( Is that english ? ) we simply search to gather most possible Tremulous Players, in a good ambience.

Thank you for your encouragement

[FreaK]

If you change the rule about unlagged our clan may enter, but I dont see that happening.

[David]

How about every (eu-vs-us) match takes 4 plays, two on a US server, two on EU servers.  High-ping team gets to pick unlagged.
Will take a while but is "fair" ish as it were.  (Also, IMO secondary sort should be time-to-win not kills or a rematch)

[Lava Croft]

Disallowing a basic Tremulous strategy, such as destroying a Reactor that is both undefended by the members of its team, as well as the defensive buildables (read: Turrets and Teslas), that are obviously placed incorrectly around said Reactor, is a sure way to keep all the normal players far, far away.

Disallowing spawnkilling is a good incentive for people to spam spawns all over the map, since they do not risk feeding the opposing team to Stage3 that easily.

In short: This sounds like a tournament for retards.

[PS] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/primordial

[Syntac]

Unfortunately, I have to agree.

Some of this tournament's rules are, quite frankly, ridiculous. Disallowing reactor-hopping when there are no humans in the base is like telling people not to attack an alien if it has no teammates nearby. If the humans are too stupid to build a decent base or leave someone behind to defend (God forbid!), they deserve to lose.

Furthermore, if one team spawn-camps itself to stage 3, isn't it the other team's fault for leaving the spawn there in the first place? Sure, maybe they keep a backup when performing a base move. But anyone with half a brain goes back to deconstruct it after the move is done.

[khalsa]

Good luck with your tournament, even if your rules are idiotic/shortsighted - they are yours to make :-)


Khalsa

[Dante]

Also it's a simple matter to make a base where 3-4 turrets can shoot the top of the reactor, able to kill any thing on top of it from basi to goon.

And if you're too fail to be able to do that, teslas are always an option.

(More indepth version of what Lava Croft already stated.)

Also Lava, it's great to see a European with some sense, I retract earlier derogatory statements about players from that continent... these jokers are just giving the rest of you a bad name.

[drstrangelove]

they are yours to make :-)

Kudos to that....

Might I recommend that instead of arguing rules here, we simply state our opinion and then encourage the tournement :-)  Granted I'm coming from Void's perspective of simply promoting the game, and this tourney does that even if the rules don't fit people's biases (which seem to be viewed as moral rules by the owners of such biases... )

//rant over

I still wish the best of luck to the tourney.

[Hendrich]

This sounds like a tournament for retards.

Na, the worst the changes will do is make the game harder....very...very..harder.....

I hope the Void Tourny will have, umm, more reasoning to the rules. ^^

[Nux]

Disallowing spawnkilling is a good incentive for people to spam spawns all over the map, since they do not risk feeding the opposing team to Stage3 that easily.

In short: This sounds like a tournament for retards.

Spamming nodes might not give the aliens any/many kills but it sure will get them a helluvalot of evos. I'm not sure if you've quite thought this through.

There are criticisms to make here, but I don't think the rules are anywhere near as bad as you and others are making out. I've played clanmatches with similar rules (such as no RJ) in the past and found them slightly troublesome but they still 'worked'. We were able to play and the majority of the game still concerns (as it should) in-the-open fighting.

I wonder how many people here condemning the rules have actually tried them. I don't think it's fair to discourage those who are willing to try it by referring to it as 'retarded'.

[janev]

I think it falls under the category of "my house my rules". I seem to recall some of the people posting here using a similar argument on many occasions.

[UniqPhoeniX]

If reactor hopping is forbidden, then why isn't OM sawing? It's the same tactic, not allowing 1 means unbalanced game.

[Seffylight]

If reactor hopping is forbidden, then why isn't OM sawing? It's the same tactic, not allowing 1 means unbalanced game.

Quit trying to bring logic into this!

[MayheM]

No problem with poeple who disagree with one ore two rules, we can easily speak about it.

You know as well that we, that certain person (Admin?), put apart criticize, are comparatively restricted in their judgement ( Maybe searching free troll / flame ).
I wouldn't answer these people. You chose not to have your place in this tournament, that's all. ( I speak only about one person you will have definitely understood me, you arn't stupid and understand about what I'm speaking )

Simply to those, that tries to discuss with 'respect' and to understand without provocation, you'r welcomed guys

The better thing to do, is to post on the TOT's Forum :

- http://tot.tremforges.net/forum/

we hope to unite most persons and possible teams, in a good ambiance.

Thanks.

[Stythys]

No problem with poeple who disagree with one ore two rules, we can easily speak about it.

You know as well that we, that certain person (Admin?), put apart criticize, are comparatively restricted in their judgement ( Maybe searching free troll / flame ).
I wouldn't answer these people. You chose not to have your place in this tournament, that's all. ( I speak only about one person you will have definitely understood me, you arn't stupid and understand about what I'm speaking )

Simply to those, that tries to discuss with 'respect' and to understand without provocation, you'r welcomed guys

The better thing to do, is to post on the TOT's Forum :

- http://tot.tremforges.net/forum/

we hope to unite most persons and possible teams, in a good ambiance.

Thanks.

nice, um....

response?

[Lava Croft]

I think it falls under the category of "my house my rules". I seem to recall some of the people posting here using a similar argument on many occasions.

Just as people are free to make up their own rules, people are also free to make up their own mind.

Also Lava, it's great to see a European with some sense, I retract earlier derogatory statements about players from that continent... these jokers are just giving the rest of you a bad name.

I think it's people like you that give Americans a bad name, not to mention the fact that people like you use Unlagged.

Final note: I am looking forward to see some demos of this tournament.

[Kaleo]

Final note: I am looking forward to see some demos of this tournament.

If only for the chat logs?

[David]

I'm looking forward to seeing how serverside demos work for this.  Should be awesome.

[Lava Croft]

Final note: I am looking forward to see some demos of this tournament.

If only for the chat logs?

No, I am just very curious how such a constrained Tremulous game would work out.

[rotacak]

If reactor hopping is forbidden, then why isn't OM sawing? It's the same tactic, not allowing 1 means unbalanced game.

Quit trying to bring logic into this!

But he has right. Reactor hoping is regular tactic and when you build good base, then aliens can't use this tactic, viz: http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=8755.0

And for example on niveus humans can use "Overming hopping tactic" . They can just fall down to OM and saw OM from top. It's similar like situation with RC.

[ambigioz]

I find the rules of the tournament very good,they make the game faster and funnier,and if you wonder why should we create new rules(like denied rc jump etc etc),that's because tremulous isn't perfect(such an unbalanced game,but i love it:) ),so we're trying to play as we like!
And trust me when i say the game is funnier,i just spected some american clanwars and i had never seen so campy and boring games!
I hope a lot of clans will apply to this tournament

P.S. sorry for my english!

[Syntac]

P.S. sorry for my english!

Your English is great, don't worry about it.

[MayheM]

Thanks Ambigioz

We already tried all this rules in the TFT, the result in match was simply good. The spectators all appreciated to watch the games.

Fast / Funny / Efficient / good ambience / with skill , is a Great combo

[rotacak]

i just spected some american clanwars and i had never seen so campy and boring games!

I agree with this.

[Stythys]

I find the rules of the tournament very good,they make the game faster and funnier,and if you wonder why should we create new rules(like denied rc jump etc etc),that's because tremulous isn't perfect(such an unbalanced game,but i love it:) ),so we're trying to play as we like!
And trust me when i say the game is funnier,i just spected some american clanwars and i had never seen so campy and boring games!
I hope a lot of clans will apply to this tournament

P.S. sorry for my english!

who's this, a TOT-alt?

[BunnyTheLifeguard]

Rules look good to me.
But, what about Saw rushes?

[Sayeru]

For me too. I like aggressive & hard gaming style. Winning by reactor jump is a joke. But please, don't insult anyone. We, Europeans have diffrent game aspects. IMHO, our scrims are more funny and interesting than Ur's.


+1 BriareoS/Ambigioz

probably, eVo gonna sign up.

[TheLuciferSausage]

I agree to disallow RC jump in 4vs4 (I'm European ).

Btw, could you add a newsletter or RSS feed with all the news, clans that sing up, reminders a week before, etc into the website?
(if there already is... just forgive my blindness)

[Stythys]

Rules look good to me.
But, what about Saw rushes?

quit trying to bring fairness into this!

[+ OPTIMUS +]

aliens are quick, their radar covers more or less the routes to their base, they get a warning when OM is under attack, and they base requires uprgrading of its buildables in each stage so a granger is most likely to be there. also, they can easily make outposts so losing an om is not that large issue. especially after s2.
a routine eggspam on the tournament levels such as niveus and karith can extend the lifespan of the alien team greatly.

thats why i don'T think sawproof OM protection is necessary.