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Started by khalsa, November 22, 2008, 06:12:45 AM

Death On Ice

One of the things I liked about the 'old' Tremulous forums were how broad its sections were. I suppose you have made a good choice in expanding the topics into subtopics, but if you look at other forums which do similar things, you realize that subtopics frequently get ignored, unless heavily moderated (so that posts which belong in a subforum end up there). An example is any clan forum ever (which has more than the basic boards), which has several completely unused boards. Being a well-populated forum, the Tremulous forum will probably do fine with all these subtopics, but it's still annoying for the people that go down through the list of topics instead of just 'showing unread posts'.

TL;dr version:
Is too many subtopics a good thing?

kevlarman

the only forum with an extreme amount of subforums is mod release center, and that has posting disabled in it.
Quote from: Asvarox link=topic=8622.msg169333#msg169333Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
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khalsa

#32
As Moosberry reminds us, several of the (new) boards and sub-forums don't have descriptions or crappy ones.

Can you guys try to come up with better ones? I will quickly put up the ones I feel best represent the point of each forum.

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UniqPhoeniX

Poll with multiple options calculates percentages from the total amount of options chosen, not from how many ppl chose that option.

Amanieu

Quote from: kevlarman on November 22, 2008, 05:40:41 PM
that would put stuff like the letter servers in the same forum as lakitu7's/paradox's/etc. game.qvm, which i think is undesirable.
I don't see why they should be discriminated. You are discouraging all mods which attempt to fix the broken 1.1 balance. Also,
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< kevlarman> zakk is getting his patches from shady frenchmen on irc
< kevlarman> this can't be a good sign :P

Seffylight

p. good theme, p. good rules, would read/post again, A+++++++
Stop it. Seriously.

Asvarox

Theme is nice, yes (too humanish btw  :police: )
But mod section is way too complex. Balance changing/Non-balance changing? When I saw it first time I wanted to runaway. I'd rather make it:
Server side features/client fixes (qvms, backports anything like that)
Client side mods (Arcade mod like, shinytrem etc, everything that uses custom pk3's)
HUDS
Ideas
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NOT SUCH HIPPIE THINGS  >:(

Seffylight

Quote from: Asvarox on November 23, 2008, 06:14:07 PM
Theme is nice, yes (too humanish btw  :police: )
But mod section is way too complex. Balance changing/Non-balance changing? When I saw it first time I wanted to runaway. I'd rather make it:
Server side features/client fixes (qvms, backports anything like that)
Client side mods (Arcade mod like, shinytrem etc, everything that uses custom pk3's)
HUDS
Ideas
I think the balance changing/non-balance changing is a good way to split it up, but I think the naming is a bit weird. Gameplay Mods and Non-Gameplay Mods conveys the same thing, but in a bit more reasonable wording (and there's probably even better possible wording than that).
Stop it. Seriously.

Bissig

I don't see any reason to split up server side section into balance/non-balance changing.

I would rather do something like:

Server side:
- (Partial) Conversion f.e. Tremx would fit in here or Arcade mod
- Gametype changes/additions f.e. Domination mod, Invasion mod

Client side:
- Huds
- Client upgrades (new client, custom gfx pk3s)

Total Conversions (client and server combined):

Tremfusion would fit in here I think

kevlarman

Quote from: Amanieu on November 23, 2008, 10:56:58 AM
Quote from: kevlarman on November 22, 2008, 05:40:41 PM
that would put stuff like the letter servers in the same forum as lakitu7's/paradox's/etc. game.qvm, which i think is undesirable.
I don't see why they should be discriminated. You are discouraging all mods which attempt to fix the broken 1.1 balance. Also,
they aren't being discriminated, or discouraged. it's simply making it easier to find mods that don't (significantly) change 1.1 gameplay and mods that do.
Quote from: Bissig on November 23, 2008, 06:38:35 PM
I don't see any reason to split up server side section into balance/non-balance changing.

I would rather do something like:

Server side:
- (Partial) Conversion f.e. Tremx would fit in here or Arcade mod
- Gametype changes/additions f.e. Domination mod, Invasion mod

Client side:
- Huds
- Client upgrades (new client, custom gfx pk3s)

Total Conversions (client and server combined):

Tremfusion would fit in here I think
all of your server side examples include a cgame >.>
Quote from: Asvarox link=topic=8622.msg169333#msg169333Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
the dretch bites.
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Bissig

Ok, then how bout:

- Pure
- Unpure
- Approved by the Kings Council of Tremulous.net Forums
- Everything else

Asvarox

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Total Conversions (client and server combined):

Tremfusion would fit in here I think
lol@making special section for tremfusion (btw we need this emoticon)
Quote from: J3lackStar on July 14, 2011, 09:14:42 PM
I MINE FULL WEREWOLFES
NOT SUCH HIPPIE THINGS  >:(

BigGamer95

Quote from: kevlarman on November 23, 2008, 06:49:42 PM
Quote from: Bissig on November 23, 2008, 06:38:35 PM
I don't see any reason to split up server side section into balance/non-balance changing.

I would rather do something like:

Server side:
- (Partial) Conversion f.e. Tremx would fit in here or Arcade mod
- Gametype changes/additions f.e. Domination mod, Invasion mod

Client side:
- Huds
- Client upgrades (new client, custom gfx pk3s)

Total Conversions (client and server combined):

Tremfusion would fit in here I think
all of your server side examples include a cgame >.>

i agree with bessig, it's a good idea(and invasion doesn't include a cgame ^^)
atm i don't know if invasion must be in "Non-Gameplay Changing" or "Gameplay Changing". it change the gameplay only for one round when someone callvote invasion and the vote passed, after the server back to normal gameplay. it's a gameplay addition (it can be never use if nobody callvote), so it's hard to know if it's "Gameplay Changing" or "Non-Gameplay Changing" :s  (i think the best place is "Gameplay Changing", but i prefer the bessig's idea :p)

btw, very nice theme ^^ and GJ for all :)

mooseberry

Quote from: Seffylight on November 23, 2008, 11:16:04 AM
p. good theme, p. good rules, would read/post again, A+++++++

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your face

Nice new theme. :)

One thing I don't entirely like is the "Other Mapping Related Stuff (find appropriate synonym) " which sounds kind of unprofessional-ish.
Quote from: dolby on February 19, 2003, 06:44:44 PM
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khalsa

#45
Agreed, I'm open to any/all suggestions for board and sub-board description changes.


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Nux

#46
"Other Mapping Related Things"

Can I have an example of what these mapping related topics might be if they're not help and their not releases?

khalsa

#47
I know many of you (and me) like to put the reason you edited a post in little text at the bottom, so I have added a seperate box where you can enter the "reason for edit" and it will be displayed at the bottom of the post. I encourage everyone to use it!

I'll make this post a sample.

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Plague Bringer

#48
What a crappy wonderful feature! I hate love it.
U R A Q T

Asvarox

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atm i don't know if invasion must be in "Non-Gameplay Changing" or "Gameplay Changing". it change the gameplay only for one round when someone callvote invasion and the vote passed, after the server back to normal gameplay. it's a gameplay addition (it can be never use if nobody callvote), so it's hard to know if it's "Gameplay Changing" or "Non-Gameplay Changing" :s  (i think the best place is "Gameplay Changing", but i prefer the bessig's idea :p)
See? Sometimes it's hard to specify if mod should go to nongameplay changing, or not (but in this case I'd put Invasion in Gameplay changing since the mod itself changes gameplay hard).
Quote from: J3lackStar on July 14, 2011, 09:14:42 PM
I MINE FULL WEREWOLFES
NOT SUCH HIPPIE THINGS  >:(

cactusfrog

i think that there are to many subforums its anoying. like other mapping stuff is useless the only thing that might go there is random dev shots but besides that it will be empty. and tremulous lore was a good subform but a whole form for writing is useless. my advice get rid of all the forums that have less then 2 post this month.

Plague Bringer

Many things could go into "Other Mapping Stuff". Reference pictures, texture or sound releases, map concept art or ideas.
U R A Q T

your face

#52
Yey, like the new name thar. :)

EDIT:  How about "Other Mapping Related Material"?
Quote from: dolby on February 19, 2003, 06:44:44 PM
spam spam spam, waste waste waste!

Nux

#53
Quote from: Plague Bringer on November 24, 2008, 12:11:21 PM
Many things could go into "Other Mapping Stuff". Reference pictures, texture or sound releases, map concept art or ideas.

I would have included that in releases but perhaps that should just be for completed maps.

So for a more concise name: Mapping Resources

khalsa

#54
Oh Look!

You can a now attach images to your posts!

Up to 6 images (gif,jpg,png,bmp only) of max 1MB each.

I think this is a nice feature, please don't abuse it. Images only. If you upload inappropriate images I will ban you.

When posting, expand the additional options and you will see the upload box there. The attached image explains it if you don't get it.

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Ingar

Quote from: Nux on November 24, 2008, 06:34:28 PM
Quote from: Plague Bringer on November 24, 2008, 12:11:21 PM
Many things could go into "Other Mapping Stuff". Reference pictures, texture or sound releases, map concept art or ideas.
I would have included that in releases but perhaps that should just be for completed maps.
So for a more concise name: Mapping Resources

I'm moving the threads that don't belong to either of the other mapping boards there. Most posts
are technical issues or release-threads anyway.

Nux

Quote3.) Healthy debates in topics are allowed. Flaming to the point of insult-trading is NOT okay.

Note 2: (Addition to Rule 2 [you mean 3]) Moderators have the right to judge whether a topic debate has grown to the point of insults or a full-blown flame war.

So imagine for second that the following was funny.

Quote from: Kaleo on November 24, 2008, 09:02:40 PM
I killed your mum in one Luci shot. I thought that was pretty awesome. :P

Is it ok for a post to not have any content other than a humorous insult?

Annihilation

Quote from: Nux on November 25, 2008, 12:34:47 AM

So imagine for second that the following was funny.

Quote from: Kaleo on November 24, 2008, 09:02:40 PM
I killed your mum in one Luci shot. I thought that was pretty awesome. :P

I just can't fullfill that request sorry.
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Kaleo

Quote from: Nux on November 25, 2008, 12:34:47 AM
So imagine for second that the following was funny.

Quote from: Kaleo on November 24, 2008, 09:02:40 PM
I killed your mum in one Luci shot. I thought that was pretty awesome. :P

Wait! You didn't find that funny?
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