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★Forum Changes★
« on: November 22, 2008, 06:12:45 am »
Howdy guys,

Now that we are on the other side of the planned downtime, let me tell you a bit about some of the changes around here!

1 - Cool new theme! Say thanks to Tremulant for his hard work on this excellent theme. If you guys notice any problems with it, please let us know!

2 - New Boards and Organizations. Please give us a few days to move threads into the appropriate sections.

3 - New Rules. Read them. In the next few days I will be sending an announcement that will further elaborate them.

4 - New Moderators - Say hello to Ingar and Taiyo.uk !

5 - Need for more moderators. Some of the new subforums will require dedicated people just to help moderate those boards. Sometime in the near future I will be making a post about those, so keep your eyes peeled!

6 - Some more stuff, I can't remember right now which I will post in this thread later tonight/tomorrow.

Feel free to respond to this thread with ... replies!


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Forum Changes
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2008, 06:13:25 am »
The 'Other Mapping Stuff' subforum is for tutorials and resources?

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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2008, 07:07:54 am »
Nice theme! ;D
But shouldn't the 'Logout' button from top left be somewhere else? Like near the name or on the same bar with Home, Help,..., Members?

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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2008, 07:36:50 am »
Noticed a minor issue with the corner menu - you have to mouse over the text to read it worth a damn.
Assuming that the not-quite-black text on an equally dark blue background is a technical mistake instead of poor taste, of course.



I'm otherwise fine with the new theme.  Far from in love with it, but it doesn't make me
want to rip my eyes out and jam them down the designer's throat, so that's a plus.  ;)

e:  I'm a retard and forgot to try it in IE.  This occurs in Firefox.
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Re: ★Forum Changers★
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2008, 07:48:48 am »
Thanks for the forum changes. I am especially grateful for the Written Lore and Mod Ideas sub-boards. Thanks for taking the time to sort and move all of those threads, and for posting clearer, more-well-defined rules. Most of all, thanks for doing a ton of work for free, in your own valuable time. Yay, Trem.net volunteers!!!

How can I help? Besides, that is, pledging to be a more thoughtful and considerate user of the "POST" button, in the future?

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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2008, 07:56:10 am »
Nice theme! ;D
But shouldn't the 'Logout' button from top left be somewhere else? Like near the name or on the same bar with Home, Help,..., Members?

That might be useful :p . I'll look into adding a nice logout button somewhere tomorrow. (2 am here and I have to wake up early tomorrow)

Edit: done

Noticed a minor issue with the corner menu - you have to mouse over the text to read it worth a damn.
Assuming that the not-quite-black text on an equally dark blue background is a technical mistake instead of poor taste, of course.

Problem noted (the css governing visited links is telling it to go black instead of remain white. I will sort this out tomorrow hopefully)

Edit: done

How can I help? Besides, that is, pledging to be a more thoughtful and considerate user of the "POST" button, in the future?

Abide by all the new rules, and help your fellow forum-goers do the same :-)
Be an upstanding citizen etc. etc. blah blah blah. Maybe become a subforum mod when that happens. DONATE!


I hope these changes put us well along the path to having a much better/nicer/cooler/awesomer/useful forums. (which is my goal).


Khalsa

p.s. You are welcome :-) Thanks for positive feedback, always appreciated!
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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2008, 08:22:10 am »
I'm all for having all the new forums and sub-forums. It really has opened up to allow for all of the community's contributions. That's what can keep this game fun for years to come is the community being involved. From TJW's admin to Lakitu's qvms to Facey's maps to Otic's HUDs, the community has made this game waaaay more enjoyable than it could have been without them. Thanks to you, Khalsa, for being an active admin, and thanks to everyone who tries to give back the Tremulous. <3
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Re: ★Rule Changes?★
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2008, 08:27:26 am »
By the way, one word about the new procedure for working out disputes/disagreements/etc. of "official acts of moderation", if you will. It was the wish of a previous mod NOT to receive PMs from members, and it seemed to be alluded to that PMing a mod was a bad idea. This one particular former moderator even had this neat trick of sending a nasty and sarcastic PM, and then, when a person would reply to said PM, the mod would follow it up with another nasty and sarcastic reply, which included a threat to ban the member for simply replying, even though the mod, not the member, initiated the private conversation. 'Twas a somewhat personal method of attack, verging on vendetta.

Anyway, it's nice to know that we can drop a friendly "wtf?" without getting a banhammer threat as the reply every time. I would suppose that either users who harass mods or mods who harass users will now be equally frowned upon, and frankly, I welcome an atmosphere a little less acerbic and personally insulting, and thank the forces of reason and the spirit of true "moderation" for once again reasserting themselves.

I think you know who & what I am talking about without being any more specific. Let this be the end of any us-vs.-them acrimony, and just have "we" versus the rest of the non-Trem-playing multiverse. After all, everyone who comes here is interested in playing Tremulous, so they have at least that much going for them.

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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2008, 09:40:50 am »
I must say I love the new layout/theme(personally) and some of the changes are much welcomed. So far everything seems fine to me(Running on IE) I have, though, a few suggestions of my own.

1) Although I do prefer this theme, some others might not, and ranctly most of them might be a wee bit too lazy to look through their profile options for the change theme button. Usually forums have such a button down at the bottom left corner of the page in a scroll menu fashion.

2) if I may suggest as well that 2 sub-forums be added to the off-topic section:
  a)A serious discussion topic forum for world/religion/thingamagigy topics
  b)A spam topic where posts just don't count

3) As well as 2 sub-forums to artwork
 a)Screenshots/replays
 b)A gfx section, Which between isin't the same thing as modeling if some people are wondering.

Although you probably have better things to do, these are just little ideas I wanted to throw out.

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Re: ★Attitude Changes★
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2008, 09:53:43 am »
Cheers! +1'd

ed sez: My suggestion for new forum theme: Loving-Kindness. It's the one thing that hasn't been tried.

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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2008, 10:05:30 am »
Splitting mods into balance changing and non-balance changing is a terrible idea. A better layout would be to split the mods by type:
  • Server-side QVM
  • Client
  • Tremded
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  • Complete mod
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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2008, 10:23:38 am »
The small icon next to 'Topic name: ......' above each post used to be different on new/unread and old/read posts.
Thanks for the quick fix :)
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Re: ★Nothing Changes★
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2008, 10:23:53 am »
Sheesh! Ingrate - at least say thanks for the fix he did in the middle of the night first!

Nice theme! ;D
But shouldn't the 'Logout' button from top left be somewhere else? Like near the name or on the same bar with Home, Help,..., Members?

That might be useful :p . I'll look into adding a nice logout button somewhere tomorrow. (2 am here and I have to wake up early tomorrow)

Edit: done

That happened really quickly! That's fast, friendly, Trem.net theme service! U dewdz raWk!

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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2008, 11:06:47 am »
Is it me, or does this thread name keep changing while looking on the main page at this thread?



Look under the last post for the general discussion. in RE: Nothing Changes
Which is clearly not the actual subject as its: Re: ★Forum Changes★

It might be a problem with IE or be intended by khalsa originally, I'm just wondering if its not a small bug.

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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2008, 11:13:16 am »
See the title of player1's reply
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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2008, 11:20:37 am »
Is it me, or does this thread name keep changing while looking on the main page at this thread?



Look under the last post for the general discussion. in RE: Nothing Changes
Which is clearly not the actual subject as its: Re: ★Forum Changes★

It might be a problem with IE or be intended by khalsa originally, I'm just wondering if its not a small bug.

When you reply to a topic you can change the title.  Player1 often does that.  Like Amanieu said.  Just thought I'd clarify a little further.


Also good work khalsa and tremulant.  This theme is a lot easier on the eyes than the last one was.  I'm much liking the cleaner organization and more specific rules.
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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2008, 11:21:22 am »
Ah I see, my bad then, player1 is just toying with my mind a bit, although it is pretty uncommon to have the main page refer to the last post's title instead of the thread's title in which the post was posted.
In fact, out of the numerous forums I've went on its the first time I see this.

Anyway, thanks for the clarification amanieu. I'm going to go to bed less stupid this morning(litterally, its 6 AM, time for bed)

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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2008, 12:28:53 pm »
AFAIK, its always been like that.

In locked threads (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=9652.msg147886#new) the Reply button still says reply.  It used to change to saying "Locked" or something.
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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2008, 02:17:20 pm »
Wow nice theme, i love it, congratulations... <3

Btw... I'm not on accord with the rule 6c :< it's mean
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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2008, 02:34:22 pm »
Btw... I'm not on accord with the rule 6c :< it's mean
I agree.  Why the need to discriminate against our troll brethren?  They're people too.  ='(

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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2008, 02:43:15 pm »
Link color isn't obvious enough
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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2008, 02:51:29 pm »
Btw... I'm not on accord with the rule 6c :< it's mean

I sincerely hope that was sarcasm.

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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2008, 03:31:48 pm »
Wow, excellent theme. The black was hurting my eyes before.  :D

Good job Khalsa and Tremulant, I'm support the idea of new boards and sub-forums/child-forums/etc.




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« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2008, 03:52:50 pm »
Wow, excellent theme. The black was hurting my eyes before.  :D
I've the opposite problem.  My eyes are pretty damned light-sensitive which makes it a pain in the ass to walk around during the day, especially in the winter when all the snow acts as a dandy sunlight mirror.

I've disliked every theme since the phpbb one 'cause they make my eyes hemorrhage buckets.  Too much unnecessary white/lite-brite blue space.  Especially that SMF trash that was on for a year (or so?).  Still don't quite like this one, but methinks the layout's better.

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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2008, 05:03:28 pm »
This new theme is fucking sexy! Much better than the previous.

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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2008, 05:40:41 pm »
Splitting mods into balance changing and non-balance changing is a terrible idea. A better layout would be to split the mods by type:
  • Server-side QVM
  • Client
  • Tremded
  • Client-side mod
  • Complete mod
  • HUD
  • Ideas
  • etc
that would put stuff like the letter servers in the same forum as lakitu7's/paradox's/etc. game.qvm, which i think is undesirable. khalsa's wording on the subforum titles is not quite as clear as i would have liked (but i can't offer better so i shouldn't complain), and i'll post some stickies clarifying it soon as i'm done moving the other 200 threads >.>
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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2008, 05:53:48 pm »

1) Although I do prefer this theme, some others might not, and ranctly most of them might be a wee bit too lazy to look through their profile options for the change theme button. Usually forums have such a button down at the bottom left corner of the page in a scroll menu fashion.

The change profile option was enabled specifically for those savvy users who did not like the temporary forum. I do not intended to support all the themes enabled on this site. I am only going to fully support the default theme.

2) if I may suggest as well that 2 sub-forums be added to the off-topic section:
  a)A serious discussion topic forum for world/religion/thingamagigy topics
  b)A spam topic where posts just don't count

I think off-topic should remain off topic. If you want serious discussion about religion etc. Go to a forum dedicated to that :-)

3) As well as 2 sub-forums to artwork
 a)Screenshots/replays
 b)A gfx section, Which between isin't the same thing as modeling if some people are wondering.

The entire lore category is currently so underused, further splitting it is almost pointless now. I've created the current splits because I think the Tremulous community can live up to them, and once all the threads have been moved into the proper boards (not an easy or quick task mind you) maybe we can look into further splits in the future.

In locked threads (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=9652.msg147886#new) the Reply button still says reply.  It used to change to saying "Locked" or something.

I will add this to my to-do list.

Link color isn't obvious enough

I will explore this further once I get some time. If you could screenshot a couple example places you would like to see link color changed, please do to speed up this process.

I've the opposite problem.  My eyes are pretty damned light-sensitive which makes it a pain in the ass to walk around during the day, especially in the winter when all the snow acts as a dandy sunlight mirror.

Sounds like Abagail is calling you!.


Thanks for all the feedback guys, I will make appropriate changes as soon as I get time.

Thanks for all the POSITIVE words of encouragement, really makes it all worthwhile ;)


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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2008, 05:55:06 pm »
I like this theme, not that I had any problems with the last one :D Kudos to the designer.

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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2008, 06:22:55 pm »
The default theme has a "Groups" tab, which I'm pretty sure shouldn't be there.

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Re: ★Forum Changes★
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2008, 06:25:50 pm »
nice theme, I like it  :)