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Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: DHRUVINATOR on February 09, 2008, 08:51:00 pm

Title: Dasprid
Post by: DHRUVINATOR on February 09, 2008, 08:51:00 pm: Anyone know were Dasprid has gone?

And how i can contact him.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: DASPRiD on February 09, 2008, 08:57:18 pm: I'm here, as far as I know. But you can reach me in IRC.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: DHRUVINATOR on February 10, 2008, 12:19:19 am: LOLz kay!
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: kevlarman on February 10, 2008, 02:50:21 am: put your penguin back :(
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Lava Croft on February 10, 2008, 01:53:36 pm: Yes, please show us how unbiased you are! :D
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: thirdstreettito on February 10, 2008, 02:08:10 pm: deh penuin will dominate us
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: techhead on February 11, 2008, 02:58:31 am: It is superior to Lava's drunken penguin. Lava's penguin looks like it passed out, flipped over, and had doodles painted on his chest in his sleep by his so-called "friends".

On a side note, happy belated birthday dasprid!!!
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Death On Ice on February 11, 2008, 03:54:55 am: That's a swastika.

Except, since the penguin is upside-down, it is actually pointing the opposite way.
The swastika was originally a PEACE sign, but the Nazi's flipped it to mean war.

Therefore, Tux has a peace sign on him.

Right?
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: mooseberry on February 11, 2008, 05:31:36 am: Quote from: Death On Ice on February 11, 2008, 03:54:55 am
That's a swastika.

Except, since the penguin is upside-down, it is actually pointing the opposite way.
The swastika was originally a PEACE sign, but the Nazi's flipped it to mean war.

Therefore, Tux has a peace sign on him.

Right?

Umm... In case you hadn't noticed, the swastika is symmetrical, that means if even if it was rotated 180 degrees, it is the EXACT same symbol. Nice try though.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Kriegsgott on February 11, 2008, 07:22:51 am: I believe he said "flipped"; not "rotated". While the swastika is rotationally symmetrical, it is not vertically symmetrical.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Atom Eve on February 11, 2008, 07:46:58 am: But Tux, in this case, has not been flipped. He has been rotated, therefore the swastika has only been rotated. Since it has rotational symmetricality, it's still a right-facing swastika -- one of the symbols of the nazi party.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on February 11, 2008, 12:18:40 pm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlmGknvr_Pg

thats a nazi sign on purpose, even i don't think that it's a kind of cheerleading neonazi ideas.
but it just looks unnecessary and disturing on tremulous forums.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Lava Croft on February 11, 2008, 02:44:48 pm: It's just a swastika, get over it. I don't think anyone would whine if I used the portrait of Mao as my avatar.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on February 11, 2008, 02:58:25 pm: the quake avatar was cool, this is not just uncool but unnecessarly provocating. (e.g. this symbol is forbidden in my country, such as the communist symbols and so on.)
i don't think it's a nice way to represent our community.
here at the company i use the forums almost all day long while working, and anyone who passes trough behind me has to stare at this symbol, inculding clients.
but keep it in this selfish way, you're in power to do that.

plus, I'm a homosexual jewish black guy raised by gypsies and i find the sign annoying personally.

EDIT: now our forum has nearly 2500 nazi swastikas. congratulations.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: NiTRoX on February 11, 2008, 03:40:35 pm: Quote from: Lava Croft on February 11, 2008, 02:44:48 pm
It's just a swastika, get over it. I don't think anyone would whine if I used the portrait of Mao as my avatar.

Just remove it and you'll avoid bitching and whining on these forums
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on February 11, 2008, 04:33:47 pm: (http://turbo.lovebox.hu/users/15/91/0009/pic-02724153-ae421b.jpg)
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Lava Croft on February 11, 2008, 06:10:43 pm: Quote from: NiTRoX on February 11, 2008, 03:40:35 pm
Quote from: Lava Croft on February 11, 2008, 02:44:48 pm
It's just a swastika, get over it. I don't think anyone would whine if I used the portrait of Mao as my avatar.

Just remove it and you'll avoid bitching and whining on these forums
I'm not in the least bothered by the bitching and whining of people who live in the 1940's. People are very selective when it comes to history, because like I said, I'm pretty sure nobody would have whined or bitched if I had a portrait of Mao as my avatar.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Shadowgandor on February 11, 2008, 06:45:05 pm: It's a mental thing. Me for example, don't mind the swastika even though I'm not a racist or anything, but there are people who seem to throw up once they see a sign like that. It's just an act of respect if you would remove it ;)
Now that I think of it...No, keep it like that. I like the people trying to get you to put it off :D
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Lava Croft on February 11, 2008, 06:49:28 pm: It's act of respect to remove it? I think it's an act of respect to stop trying to make people remove something you don't like. Live and let live, remember. If I do what Optimus wants, everybody can go demanding that other people remove images they don't like.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Rocinante on February 11, 2008, 07:14:22 pm: Quote from: + OPTIMUS + on February 11, 2008, 02:58:25 pm
here at the company i use the forums almost all day long while working, and anyone who passes trough behind me has to stare at this symbol, inculding clients.

Description of the image itself aside, you can fix this yourself fairly easily. Go to your profile, select "Look and layout preferences" and click "Don't show users' avatars."
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: your face on February 11, 2008, 07:25:44 pm: (http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ga/1983/ga831210.gif)
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Lava Croft on February 11, 2008, 07:28:12 pm: Quote from: Rocinante on February 11, 2008, 07:14:22 pm
Quote from: + OPTIMUS + on February 11, 2008, 02:58:25 pm
here at the company i use the forums almost all day long while working, and anyone who passes trough behind me has to stare at this symbol, inculding clients.

Description of the image itself aside, you can fix this yourself fairly easily. Go to your profile, select "Look and layout preferences" and click "Don't show users' avatars."
Rocinante, you are too nice for this forum! <3
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on February 11, 2008, 07:29:59 pm: there are things you might can, but you shouldn't.
nazism is one of them.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Survivor on February 11, 2008, 07:36:44 pm: Who cares about pictures of symbols. They're just that anyway, symbols. Same shit as renaming the negerzoen. Even if lava ever started forcing opinions and controlling people it doesn't matter, because there being a symbol or not wouldn't matter either way.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: techhead on February 11, 2008, 08:04:10 pm: I know exactly what it is, and sadly, it is the kinda thing drunken immature frat boys would doodle on someone's stomach.
I just don't get the penguin part, really.

No one looked at the other half of my post either.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Lava Croft on February 11, 2008, 08:20:20 pm: The problem does not lie with me using a swastika, the problem lies with the people who seem to have trouble with 'decoupling' the swastika from the Nazi's.

Quote from: techhead on February 11, 2008, 08:04:10 pm
I just don't get the penguin part, really.
The penguin part relates to the certain kind of Linux users who I not hold dearly. The kind of Linux users that show behaviour not completely alien to Nazi behaviour.

Word of the day: preconception
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: techhead on February 11, 2008, 08:23:03 pm: Thank you! I was wondering that, have a nice day!

(Lava could use a +1 karma for that, IMHO)
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Sentinel on February 11, 2008, 08:32:06 pm: You good awareness that this avatar open diskussion about Nazi. That is what evoking this symbol without exception whether is real Nazi symbol or not. But, question is, what you would demonstrate with this. I always thought you were authority for this forum. But at the moment i don't think so. It is not preconception, it is about abused symbol whereon is Nazi ideology based.

And i don't turn off "show users avatars" due to unfortunate picture choice.

It seem as when school-boy doodle those symbols on desk. He knows that mustn't, but that is all.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Eeeew Spiders on February 11, 2008, 08:40:32 pm: Quote from: Lava Croft on February 11, 2008, 08:20:20 pm
The penguin part relates to the certain kind of Linux users who I not hold dearly. The kind of Linux users that show behaviour not completely alien to Nazi behaviour.
Linux users have tried to put you in a gas chamber?

Quote from: Lava Croft on February 11, 2008, 08:20:20 pm
The problem does not lie with me using a swastika, the problem lies with the people who seem to have trouble with 'decoupling' the swastika from the Nazi's.
From your explanation of your little penguin the reference you want others to 'decouple' seems to be intentional. So you haven't quite decoupled it yourself and also didn't intend it to be viewed 'decoupled'.

And a last question,why is it a problem if a majority of western people don't want to 'decouple' the swastika (drawn in the style of that time) from the Nazi period, or why should it be?
Is it helpful if it would have been?
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Lava Croft on February 11, 2008, 08:56:27 pm: Quote from: Eeeew Spiders on February 11, 2008, 08:40:32 pm
Linux users have tried to put you in a gas chamber?
You are exemplary for the point I'm trying to make.

Quote from: Eeeew Spiders on February 11, 2008, 08:40:32 pm
From your explanation of your little penguin the reference you want others to 'decouple' seems to be intentional. So you haven't quite decoupled it yourself and also didn't intend it to be viewed 'decoupled'
That is exactly where your human psyche either thinks into one direction, or the opposite. Some people have no problems with it, and other people do.

[EDIT] Nice way of adding to your post while I am busy writing a reply to your first two remarks. Might be a bit more honest to actually note that you have added those last two sentences.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: your face on February 11, 2008, 08:59:23 pm: Quote from: Topic
Dasprid (Read 227 times)
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Survivor on February 11, 2008, 09:07:17 pm: My dear sir, when we see black, shall we call the color afro-american. When we see an eagle, shall we be reminded of the massacres endured under it by both the so called third reich as well as the roman empire, or do you prefer the american image of the eagle? Images are images, ideas are ideas, images are not needed for ideas. Anyone who thinks we are advocating nazism is wrong, we are advocating insight in to reality and arguing against an absurd form of censorship held by beliefs. People are against the swastika, but are forgetting that guantanamo bay is some kind of concentration camp as well, and that there is persecution and censorship in the US and china as well. Shall we make a taboo of their symbols as well? Or will we realize that there is a difference. Or let's take something less loaded, like the numeral I. But i did that by typing an uppercase i. So does it mean 1 or capital i? There's just a disconnect between visual and singular meaning, realize that.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: techhead on February 11, 2008, 09:45:52 pm: Well said Survivor.

Note:
!Dasprid>Dasprid
With regards to the contents of this thread.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Eeeew Spiders on February 11, 2008, 10:45:26 pm: Quote from: Lava Croft on February 11, 2008, 08:56:27 pm

That is exactly where your human psyche either thinks into one direction, or the opposite.

How can a human psyche thinks? And how does your remark relate to what I wrote?

Quote from: Survivor on February 11, 2008, 09:07:17 pm
There's just a disconnect between visual and singular meaning, realize that.

There is no visual meaning, only a visual shape (called syntax). The meaning of a symbol is given by it's context, rooted in:
- history
- environment
- culture
The transport of meaning in communication is performed by the usage of symbols and signs. Symbols and signs by them self have no meaning. The message (or meaning) is transported when both communicating agents have a similar understanding (connotation) of the symbols and signs used for communication.
For the agent seeking communication, it usually tries to use those symbols and signs of which it expects the receiver to understand, or associate similar connotation with. This is the basis of communication. Using symbols and signs disregarding their connotations in the current cultural embedding only leads to confusion and misinterpretation.

Quote from: Survivor on February 11, 2008, 09:07:17 pm
My dear sir, when we see black, shall we call the color afro-american...

The word 'black' in certain context does refer to afro-american, in other context it doesn't. Without context the symbol is ambiguous.

Quote from: Survivor on February 11, 2008, 09:07:17 pm
like the numeral I. But i did that by typing an uppercase i

Since you mean the numeral 1, and even added a statement for it being the numeral 1, it is the numeral 1 regardless of it's glyph. I know what you mean because you are clear in this context and provided enough information to clear up any ambiguities.

Quote from: Lava Croft on February 11, 2008, 08:20:20 pm

The kind of Linux users that show behaviour not completely alien to Nazi behaviour.

And so did lava, clearing up the ambiguities of his usage of the symbol and made it clear he did not mean any of the zillion other connotations of this symbol.

Please note that I did not object to lava's usage of the swastika in this particular case. It brings the point across in what he thinks about a particular type of linux aficionados.
I was merely objecting to his comment that the meaning of the usage of the symbol had to be 'decoupled' to be understood, and frankly, it didn't make any sense to me when I did.

Good luck symbol over upside-down penguin? huh ;D

But back to topic: Dasprid > Penguin

[EDIT] changed a word
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Atom Eve on February 12, 2008, 12:14:15 am: Hey guys, I have a great idea! Let's fruitlessly argue for two pages about whether or not using a swastika in imagery is appropriate in a modern world, particularly on a multi-national internet forum!
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: mooseberry on February 12, 2008, 01:27:37 am: Pssshh.. No one on these forums is actually dumb enough to do that....
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on February 12, 2008, 09:01:04 am: nazism is not shut down by the past sadly, and this symbol is still in use in bad hands, that's why it's very unlucky to use it.

i unfortunately got used to that lava is often using the wrong tools to fix problems, like making spam threads to prevent spam treads. I don't think that if the police would sometimes go out 'raiding' randomly fighting, raping everyone and putting things on flames to show how bad is this kind of behaviour, then we would live in peace...

i also don't really see the Nazi-Like Linux Underground Users Community's who he should fight against on this particular forum.

anyway i doN't think that this discussion is useless.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Tycho on February 12, 2008, 10:19:15 am: I'm not bothered about Lava's Linuxnazi avatar as I'm a troll myself but there is truly a distasteful aspect of that avatar I must admit.

Also in Hungary the issue of these banned symbols are quite stupid... for instance when Heineken got imported to Hungary some idiots started foaming at the mouth because it has a red star as the trademark symbol so it must be banned because it's a fucking commie beer... <no comment - facepalm.jpg>

Also I smell Godwin's Law in this thread but in b4 50 hitler posts I present the first flaming penguin of the Thousand:
(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/3/31/Ptothaenguin.jpg)
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on February 12, 2008, 10:31:57 am: indeed, if i'd be him, i'd illustrate my words by making some dozens of 4D0LPH H1L73R and S74L1N accounts and flood the forum with pinguins VS nazis battlepictures with swastika wallpapers etc etc etc etc.

my other problem is, Tycho, that there are people with me in the same room, and so my bosses and clients who sometimes take a look on my screen. i needed a half year to make them got used to my constant tremulous investigations, but now i come up with a forum with swastikas all over. well now i turn off avatars as i doN't want to piss off the clients who are... sensitive at this case (no need to tell more).
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Eeeew Spiders on February 12, 2008, 11:49:25 am: Quote from: Atom Eve on February 12, 2008, 12:14:15 am
Hey guys, I have a great idea! Let's fruitlessly argue for two pages about whether or not using a swastika in imagery is appropriate in a modern world, particularly on a multi-national internet forum!
Would you prefer that people post swastikas and people would not discuss this? It is not the swastika that is worryingly. It is when people would not discuss this, that would worry me.
And when people post swastikas, would the poster be surprised when people comment on it? Can he expect comments? Did he get comments? You see, nothing unexpectedly happened, everything went as how you should expect things to happen. Posting a swastika on a forum leads to discussion, no matter what you think what role symbols play.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: gareth on February 12, 2008, 01:52:28 pm: dont feed the trolls please :police:
Title: Dasprid, we are sorry to flame your topic! :)
Post by: Tycho on February 12, 2008, 04:02:17 pm: Quote from: gareth on February 12, 2008, 01:52:28 pm
dont feed the trolls please :police:

troll feeding is good for trolls!!! I want MOAR!

also: 2nd Flaming Penguin!
(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/3/31/Ptothaenguin.jpg)
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Lava Croft on February 12, 2008, 04:17:14 pm: (http://satgnu.net/upload/lava/uberos.gif)

Suck it down.
Title: Re: Dasprid, we are sorry to flame your topic! :)
Post by: gareth on February 12, 2008, 05:08:25 pm: Quote from: Tycho on February 12, 2008, 04:02:17 pm
Quote from: gareth on February 12, 2008, 01:52:28 pm
dont feed the trolls please :police:

troll feeding is good for trolls!!! I want MOAR!

also: 2nd Flaming Penguin!
(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/3/31/Ptothaenguin.jpg)

how do you have +35 karma????

(well 34 now)
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: CreatureofHell on February 12, 2008, 05:10:28 pm: why do we have a post calling for Dasprid answered by "Why do you have he swatstika on your picture?". This is pointless. :P
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on February 12, 2008, 05:25:56 pm: Quote from: CreatureofHell on February 12, 2008, 05:10:28 pm
why do we have a post calling for Dasprid answered by "Why do you have he swatstika on your picture?". This is pointless. :P

Ask your trolldmin
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Shadowgandor on February 12, 2008, 05:54:07 pm: This topic makes me smile :)
Title: Re: Everything but Dasprid
Post by: player1 on February 12, 2008, 06:43:15 pm: Quote
overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs valid comparisons of their impact

quoted from wikipedia Godwin's Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law) page

with minor power comes minor irritability

Yes, it's probably true that for every death caused by Hitler, Stalin was responsible for 10 and Mao 100 (hell, Pol Pot was responsible for the deaths of something like two-thirds of the population of Cambodia). Like you say Lava, it would be hard to convey that in a symbol (I note that you said a picture of Mao, as no Communist symbol carries, for a Westerner, quite the same load of guilt, anger, shame, shock, horror and repulsion); there really isn't a symbol that closely identified with these other infamous figures with quite the same load of associations (also, some of them are considered heroes by still-extant political organizations, some of which are the ruling powers of major nations).

Anyway, yes, it's just a symbol (albeit a specifically-oriented one, with a certain type of outline, chosen to represent a certain suite of connotations, as much as you'd like to play both sides of that fence). It was only a matter of time before someone started to accuse the open-source community of reactionary, fascist tactics (or even wish them the luck of the eternal sun). Even among the anarchists, there are always a few absolutists...

ON TOPIC: Hi DASPRiD. Hey, isn't it about time to wish you a Happy Birthday again? Whatever happened to TremRadio? How did those user guides you were making ever work out?

All things in moderation. Even moderation.

@Surv: :o ??? ::)

edit'd for linkability
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Survivor on February 12, 2008, 07:03:01 pm: I fuck with minds, unless I'm fucking bodies. Sorry player1
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Lava Croft on February 12, 2008, 07:50:08 pm: Quote from: + OPTIMUS + on February 12, 2008, 05:25:56 pm
Ask your trolldmin
(http://satgnu.net/upload/lava/uberos.gif)

Everytime you whine about my avatar, I will reply to you with my avatar.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Plague on February 12, 2008, 08:37:22 pm: lol i guess its faggot time look at pic plz its a faggot

Stop leeching our bandwith. If you feel like posting a picture of me, host it on your own website. -Lava
Title: Dasprid, I am still sorry for this flame....
Post by: Tycho on February 12, 2008, 08:54:21 pm: @Gareth: well obviously someone applauded my posts. D'uh. Also by asking ppl to not feed the trolls you already offed this topic so you are just a hypocrite when you 'police' the thread with smites. Go enjoy your invalid reasoning. you just made me feel sorry for wasting those minutes on the game in you signature...

@Lava: Sorry to bring the flame on you but since you are an admin not always acting like one, I know that lazyness first and this forum is a hobby and etc., but aren't you the one that's supposed to act like an example to follow. Like not posting the SwasTux all over the forum, not off-ing Dasprid's topic to oblivion...

Maybe some mod should delete this argument about Lava and the SwasTux or just move it into the "ITT:we flame Lava" topic?

Not that I don't enjoy trolling into a flame, just I think it is inappropiate to do it in this thread...
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: NiTRoX on February 12, 2008, 09:04:57 pm: Quote from: Lava Croft on February 12, 2008, 07:50:08 pm
Quote from: + OPTIMUS + on February 12, 2008, 05:25:56 pm
Ask your trolldmin

img

Everytime you whine about my avatar, I will reply to you with my avatar.

And everytime you reply with it I will post this:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Anti-Nazi-Symbol.svg/273px-Anti-Nazi-Symbol.svg.png)
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Lava Croft on February 12, 2008, 09:25:27 pm: There is nothing wrong with swastika's.
There is nothing wrong with penguins.
There is nothing wrong with hijacking a thread that basically was over already. Druh asked where and how to reach Dasprid, Dasprid replied, Druh confirmed. Thread over.

@Nitrox: Saying Nazi's are not allowed is Nazi behaviour.

@Tycho: Being an example for the rest of the community is not part of my job description. If it was, I'm pretty sure I would not have been given moderator status. My job description is moderating the forums, not trying to adhere to narrow-minded people and their petty one-sided political correctnes.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Tycho on February 12, 2008, 09:28:42 pm: Quote from: Lava Croft on February 12, 2008, 09:25:27 pm
@Tycho: Being an example for the rest of the community is not part of my job description. If it was, I'm pretty sure I would not have been given moderator status. My job description is moderating the forums, not trying to adhere to narrow-minded people and their petty one-sided political correctnes.

Hmm... point taken. You just don't care about respect. Moving along. :)

(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/3/31/Ptothaenguin.jpg)
he is the fourth flaming penguin amirite?
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Lava Croft on February 12, 2008, 09:44:33 pm: Quote from: Tycho on February 12, 2008, 09:28:42 pm
Hmm... point taken. You just don't care about respect. Moving along. :)

You don't post a bold statement like that, only to 'move along'. Care to elaborate why you think I don't care about respect?
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: gareth on February 12, 2008, 10:31:25 pm: posting a penguin so a get karma++ed

(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/3/31/Ptothaenguin.jpg)
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Tycho on February 12, 2008, 11:12:09 pm: Quote from: Lava Croft on February 12, 2008, 09:44:33 pm
Quote from: Tycho on February 12, 2008, 09:28:42 pm
Hmm... point taken. You just don't care about respect. Moving along. :)

You don't post a bold statement like that, only to 'move along'. Care to elaborate why you think I don't care about respect?

Meh... yeah I was sloppy there. Respect means too much things to state it so boldly. Let's rephrase it like this:
You do not respect the fact that a lot of people find the swastisa itself offensive and you don't care what they'll think of you after this...

And I'm still not judging upon the fact that you have a swastica in your ava, as I understand the joke in it while I see that it is somewhat distasteful, I am only reflecting upon other people's dismay upon seeing it.

@Gareth: if you are mocking me, my 'karma' and the flameing penguins then I hope you have your fun even if it doesn't bother me... Or if you came to see things from my point of view here then you are welcome to fill this murdered topic with one thousand flaming penguins. This here is the 6th, I reckon:
(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/3/31/Ptothaenguin.jpg)

edited after proof reading
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Taiyo.uk on February 12, 2008, 11:19:04 pm: Quote from: Tycho on February 12, 2008, 11:12:09 pm
judgeing

You missed one.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: kaziorvb on February 12, 2008, 11:46:21 pm: please dont stop
this thread is getting more and more contentful
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: techhead on February 12, 2008, 11:57:03 pm: Level Up!
Troll +1
Flaming +2
Whining +1
Intelligence -2
Karma -5
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Sentinel on February 12, 2008, 11:59:26 pm: Like this?

(http://www.webpark.ru/uploads52/080201/retro_25.jpg)

I not!
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Lava Croft on February 13, 2008, 12:08:51 am: Thats a lot of pretty swastika's! Too bad they are carried by NSDAP members. Also, the penguin is missing from their banners.

@Tycho: I do respect people's thoughts on the swastika, but respect does not automagically mean you have to adhere to someone's demands.

[EDIT] merged my double post:X
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: jhaa on February 13, 2008, 12:24:03 am: Nazis were people too.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Lava Croft on February 13, 2008, 12:25:09 am: Quote from: jhaa on February 13, 2008, 12:24:03 am
Nazis were people too.
In addition to this, did the Nazi's love their mother and father any less than you do?
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: jhaa on February 13, 2008, 12:26:31 am: Quote from: Lava Croft on February 13, 2008, 12:25:09 am
Quote from: jhaa on February 13, 2008, 12:24:03 am
Nazis were people too.
Did the Nazi's love their mother and father any less than you do?

:hovel: http://goatse.hello/france.jpg
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Rocinante on February 13, 2008, 12:48:22 am: Quote from: jhaa on February 13, 2008, 12:26:31 am
:hovel: http://goatse.hello/france.jpg

I missed seeing this before jhaa's edit, though I got the gist of what it linked to...

(http://www.sodall.co.uk/mindbleach.jpg)
Title: Re: Poor Dasprid, who is really is super guy...
Post by: player1 on February 13, 2008, 01:49:22 am: Maybe we could at least change the name of the thread to SwasTux rant, out of respect to DASPRiD.

P.S. Please stop arguing. Every time you post, another penguin dies a horrible, flaming death! Think of the penguins. If you won't stop for yourself, please, people - think of the penguins!

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/185/387994409_08ca90ae23.jpg)

I'll bet right about now you guys are pretty happy you didn't give us all the weighty responsibility of having avatars. Who knows what some people might have done? Oh, right...
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Lava Croft on February 13, 2008, 02:02:28 am: I second the mind bleach.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: PIE on February 13, 2008, 02:31:46 am: Bullshit. It isn't a statement about censorship its simply a 'let this be the reason you don't like me'/'oh look at me' thing. Sure you can display it here because it isn't against any rules of the forum but don't try to act like you are doing it for a good reason. Its disrespectful. Its not something that should have to be censored it is something that should be released out of respect. I personally don't have anything against you but I think your avatar is distasteful and the way you've dealt with it equally so. You can say people won't care if you throw Mao or Stalin up or some such nonsense but you have no proof. Glorifying genocide is never a good cause.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Superpie on February 13, 2008, 02:32:50 am: http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=7386.0
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Lava Croft on February 13, 2008, 03:16:44 am: The thing is, taste is something that differs per person. For every person that finds it distasteful, there is another person who thinks the opposite. What you basically are saying is that I am disrespectful because I refuse to adhere to other people's tastes.

And glorying genocice by showing a swastika? Then what am I glorifying if I for example had a 9mm pistol as my avatar? Violence? I might as well say you are glorifying drugs because you have a toad as your avatar, and licking toads is a well-known way to get hallucinating.

Just stop this sillyness, I'm not removing the avatar, better get used to it. There will be much, much more situations in your life where you come across something you find distasteful.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Odin on February 13, 2008, 03:35:06 am: Windows is considered the opposite of Linux, so Linux upside-down would be Windows. The way I look at it, Lava is depicting Microsoft as a Nazi organization.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Eeeew Spiders on February 13, 2008, 03:35:31 am: Quote from: PIE on February 13, 2008, 02:31:46 am
...but I think your avatar is distasteful and the way you've dealt with it equally so...
Quote from: Lava Croft on February 13, 2008, 03:16:44 am
The thing is, taste is something that differs per person..

It is not a question of taste. Though taste is part of the word distasteful, it doesn't mean that if something is distasteful that there is a difference in taste.
Please don't be fuzzy.
[EDIT] rephrased + added quote as reference
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Lava Croft on February 13, 2008, 04:29:17 am: According to Princeton Univisersity, distasteful means:

disgusting: highly offensive; arousing aversion or disgust

Since this differs per person, my point stands. What one might find distasteful, another might find tasteful.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: gareth on February 13, 2008, 10:03:02 am: All glory to the hypnotoad.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Eeeew Spiders on February 13, 2008, 01:24:32 pm: Quote from: Lava Croft on February 13, 2008, 04:29:17 am
According to Princeton Univisersity, distasteful means:

disgusting: highly offensive; arousing aversion or disgust

Since this differs per person, my point stands. What one might find distasteful, another might find tasteful.

If something is offensive, or arouses disgust, it is offensive and arouses disgust. Maybe not to all, or maybe not even to the majority, but it is the effect it has.
If the green hat looks better than the red hat, that is a question of taste.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Atom Eve on February 13, 2008, 02:18:14 pm: Quote from: Eeeew Spiders on February 13, 2008, 01:24:32 pm
If the green hat looks better than the red hat, that is a question of taste.

What if a band of red-hatted ninjas killed my family, and I was offended by people who wore red hats around me? Does that make red hats distasteful?
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on February 13, 2008, 02:30:34 pm: Quote from: Atom Eve on February 13, 2008, 02:18:14 pm
What if a band of red-hatted ninjas killed my family, and I was offended by people who wore red hats around me? Does that make red hats distasteful?
so if you would ask me to take off my red-hat ninja avatar, I'd respect you as much as i'd remove it.
tell Lava about water festing against cancer, so he will bite your throat off. (Microsoft vs Yahoo topic)

if you'd been beaten up by skinheads several times, watching them to ruin their own and their family's life under this sign, or had relatives living 60 years after a headshot at WW2 with two holes on the face and constant pain, you would take care of this also. but obviously you know enough about fascism to have a picture about its values.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Atom Eve on February 13, 2008, 02:49:26 pm: Well, that's different. Nazis were in WW2 60 years ago. Red-hatted ninjas are a serious threat in the here and now. Really, I'm surprised we're not discussing that much more serious and harmful issue.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Eeeew Spiders on February 13, 2008, 03:04:55 pm: Quote from: Atom Eve on February 13, 2008, 02:18:14 pm
Quote from: Eeeew Spiders on February 13, 2008, 01:24:32 pm
If the green hat looks better than the red hat, that is a question of taste.

What if a band of red-hatted ninjas killed my family, and I was offended by people who wore red hats around me? Does that make red hats distasteful?

The red hat it self is not distasteful, but wearing the red hat to your families funeral you would admit is distasteful and tactless. I am a bit puzzled by what you are trying to say.
You seem to spontaneously respond without reading any of the preceding posts. Or maybe you haven't understood most parts of it, then I am sorry.
As stated before, the symbol itself does not have a meaning nor can it be distasteful, only the purpose of the symbol as given to it by the agents participating in the communication can be distasteful.
I thought we were beyond that since 2 pages.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Atom Eve on February 13, 2008, 03:09:34 pm: That's a load of nonsense. I have a feeling that you're just trying to move the discussion back towards this false swastika issue, and away from the real problem here. Maybe that's your true intention, eh? Hiding the real problem? Let me ask you, Mr. Eeeew Spiders:

Do you now, or have you ever, subscribed to the beliefs of red-hatted ninjaism?
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on February 13, 2008, 03:15:46 pm: Eve, chill down...

Fascism exists, people are using the nazi swastika sign, they beat people, they arm up, their life goes shit so well as their families, mostly because they want to get attention in spite of their everyday failures.
You are just lucky that you haven't seen any, good for you.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Eeeew Spiders on February 13, 2008, 03:22:13 pm: The red-hatted ninjas think of forum trolls being sub users. I see why you feel threatened by them. But no fear, we will fight for the right of even forum trolls.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Atom Eve on February 13, 2008, 03:36:11 pm: Quote from: Eeeew Spiders on February 13, 2008, 03:22:13 pm
The red-hatted ninjas think of forum trolls being sub users. I see why you feel threatened by them. But no fear, we will fight for the right of even forum trolls.

I've got my eye on you. Eeeew Spiders, you're officially On Notice!
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Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Eeeew Spiders on February 13, 2008, 03:50:47 pm: Mom look, I am on steven colbert's!
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Dasprid?
Post by: player1 on February 13, 2008, 05:23:15 pm: You and your kind of spandex-wearing freakazoid doesn't intimidate us, Atom Eve (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_Eve)...

(http://www.toymania.com/customcorner/cc14/invincible/group.gif)

(http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/geekend/images/red%20hat.jpg)

(http://www.myconfinedspace.com/watermark.php?src=wp-content/uploads/2007/06/ninjas.jpg)
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Atom Eve on February 13, 2008, 05:59:04 pm: Quote from: player1 on February 13, 2008, 05:23:15 pm
You and your kind of spandex-wearing freakazoid doesn't intimidate us, Atom Eve (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_Eve)...

If you ever even jokingly insult my namesake again, so help me God, I will hunt you down, rip off your head, and shit down your throat. Just kidding.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Rocinante on February 13, 2008, 06:27:40 pm: Quote from: Atom Eve on February 13, 2008, 05:59:04 pm
Quote from: player1 on February 13, 2008, 05:23:15 pm
You and your kind of spandex-wearing freakazoid doesn't intimidate us, Atom Eve (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_Eve)...
If you ever even jokingly insult my namesake again, so help me God, I will hunt you down, rip off your head, and shit down your throat. Just kidding.

I could be wrong, but I think them's fightin' words ...
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: Lava Croft on February 13, 2008, 06:27:52 pm: Quote from: Atom Eve on February 13, 2008, 05:59:04 pm
Quote from: player1 on February 13, 2008, 05:23:15 pm
You and your kind of spandex-wearing freakazoid doesn't intimidate us, Atom Eve (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_Eve)...

If you ever even jokingly insult my namesake again, so help me God, I will hunt you down, rip off your head, and shit down your throat. Just kidding.
That would make you the female equivalent of Duke Nukem. Let's make babies.
Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: CreatureofHell on February 13, 2008, 06:45:45 pm: love that really sneaky just kidding in white.
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Title: Re: Dasprid
Post by: gareth on February 13, 2008, 09:35:27 pm: Atom Eve is like a version of f0rqu3 where everything that was bad is reversed and made good.