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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #60 on: September 15, 2009, 04:18:37 am »
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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #61 on: September 15, 2009, 05:36:36 am »
WTF. They just keep improving!
That ^. Keep it up :P

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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #62 on: September 15, 2009, 10:49:08 pm »
The last two were unbelievable. How do you do it? Any tips for someone starting out?

ok, can you give me the tool thingy app that can code?

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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #63 on: September 16, 2009, 02:34:36 am »
Sure. Get a Gimp (free open source), get a bit familiar with it, good start could be editing existing images and toying with effect and stuff.

You need to either use a reference (you can simply open an image in Gimp, add a new layer and start reproducing it) or you can try to come up with things straight from your head. That's what I always try to do. But this requires a lot of inspiration, pause a film during an intense scene rich on environment or just take a better look at that temple in your favorite RPG you passed 300 times before without noticing anything else but the fact that it's a temple and it's gray.

The technique I use is a pretty basic one, there are a lot better / advanced ones.

1, canvas size - think about what you are about to draw. Landscape? Let it be wide. Very wide. Weary freaky claustrophobicaly looking picture with focus on one character? Definitely not wide, quite the opposite

2, defining the base image structure. In order to start drawing envos(environments), you need that. Just basic shapes you will be adding details on. Don't start on white background no matter what you are doing. Not even snowy picture. Use huge brushes with low opacity. Lets say you want to draw a hot desert planet like I did. File / New, set resolution (like 1200 x 700 should be ok for starters) select an interesting tone of reddish warm yellow (not banana yellow that is) and use the fill tool to fill the entire canvas(image) with it. Now use huge brushes with low opacity and start defining. No details whatsoever at this stage. I do the sky already here at this point. You need to have desired composition and perspective in your head by now. By drawing sky, I define the overall composition of image. Then with these huge brushes with low opacity start defining the terrain. Make them over and over again, so the image gets some weight. Mountains, cliffs, whatever. Still no detail whatsoever. By now you should have a rough sky and the rest of picture filled with messy brushes you will later turn into something more detailed.

3, defining the primary light source Talking about environments, that would be sun/moon. You NEED to know where it is. Not 100% precisely, but precisely enough. Pick a dodge/burn tool and start adding details with it. You are now about to create a basic lightning for your picture. Say the sun is to the left, left hill/mountain side you will lighten, the right one you make darker. You can create a lot of details at this stage. People who know what they are doing (sometimes, very occasionally even me) can create entire cities just by doing that. You should have a rough concept now. It must be obvious that that thing is a building and this is a hill by now.

4, adding additional colors and details First things 1st. Get custom brushes. Get lots of them. The ones where you don't have to join the authors secret cult and eternally praise his name will be best. Google it, search DeviantART, whatever. Thinking about creating a detailed and rich environment with the basic round brush just hurts. Experiment with them. If a grass or cloud brush looks good on that mountain, good for you, use it. In this stage you get creative with brushwork and add more colors than the ones created by lightening and darkening our basic yellow. The colors you started with must stay dominant, or you lose the image integrity. Add a light grayish green with low opacity on your mountains. Add some gray or dark red and start creating some interesting textures. Little stones close to us, architecture, whatever. Make dead trees, crashed spaceship, characters, whatever you can come up with. Don't forget to add step 2 to your newly made objects, at least the major ones. (only tiny stones etc. can get away without it) If you got carried away at this point and made a detailed nice image, make sure the sky is as HQ as the rest of the picture. Sky affects the overall mood of your envo a lot, keep that in mind.
You need to know the basics to complete this stage well. Decent perspective, your objects of focus, and things like the closer something is to the viewer the sharper it usually gets. Background should (doesn't have to though) be blurry and slowly blending into the sky. Your objects of focus (interesting stuff in your picture) should be sharp and well defined, use small hard brushes. You should know how to use warm and cold colors, too.

5, finishing even if it doesn't look as good as you hoped don't give up! It's a digital image, there is nothing easier than to adjust it! Experiment with colors, make them warmer, colder, or even entirely different for an interesting mood. Try darkening / brightening it / sharpening it, adding effects, whatever you can try try it. You never know. But if it's a crap it will usually just stay a crap no matter how hard you try.

If anything remains unclear, like how to get custom brushes or even what I mean by "brushes" just go ahead and ask. Have fun with digital art.

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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #64 on: September 16, 2009, 05:55:18 am »
This is a great guide for the art section! Sticky nao!

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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #65 on: September 17, 2009, 08:10:06 pm »
There's been a wild party in the Golden Temple.



I will only be posting 3+ images from now on, so I'm not at top of the list all the time, with Tremulous unrelated stuff. You have been a great feedback guys.
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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #66 on: September 18, 2009, 12:19:50 am »
I don't care if it's related or not, I want to see it.

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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #67 on: September 18, 2009, 01:09:37 am »
zomg zomg that is so oblivion!
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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #68 on: September 18, 2009, 01:21:03 am »
Thanks Whales  ^_-

I did that one with nothing particular in mind and no reference, I just wanted it to be a temple or such. But I guess I have been playing Oblivion way too much.




the turret perspective sux, lotsa things about it sux, but I just need to keep practicing (EDIT: atmospheric perspective was obviously not even implemented in this one, that why it looks so flat)
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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #69 on: September 18, 2009, 03:54:00 am »
I don't care if it's related or not, I want to see it.

I love you Overkill.

Couldn't agree more.


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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #70 on: September 18, 2009, 07:08:06 am »
There's been a wild party in the Golden Temple.



I will only be posting 3+ images from now on, so I'm not at top of the list all the time, with Tremulous unrelated stuff. You have been a great feedback guys.



NO, seriously that looks exactly like oblivion!!!!! Faeis right
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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #71 on: September 18, 2009, 03:41:06 pm »
It's great to see how prolific an artist you are! So when I say this, I mean only to encourage and inform.

I'd say the quality peaked at "Too much sun". I liked this picture because though the subject was desolate and not too specific, the picture was alive with the activity of a land still burning in the harsh sun. It was a very pretty picture and tops everything that came after it.

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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #72 on: September 18, 2009, 05:10:13 pm »
Yes Nux, Sir, I know. It's sort of easy for me to create something that just looks good, but it's not very specific. But I really need to be able to portray things more precisely, hence the last two pictures. Hopefully I'll be able to combine overall good looks with specific detail in not so distant future. I think the key to this is to first make sure the composition and overall image looks good, then focus on details. I'm glad we both see my pictures the same way, it tells me my perception is not too off. Thanks for feedback, much appreciated.

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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #73 on: September 19, 2009, 02:52:16 am »
I use GIMP(GPS) with a few custom brushes and Alchemy for basic concept. Occasionally MyPaint(all open source).

Time-lapse of a full digital painting illustration with Mypaint / Alchemy and Gimp
http://www.davidrevoy.com/temp/timelapse-pictures/
 
I've watched this a few times and I'm really liking Alchemy.  ;D

David Revoy makes this image with these tools:

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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #74 on: September 19, 2009, 04:44:53 am »
Yes, I have seen that before, amazing stuff and funny innitial commentary. I think I have seen it presented at Gimptalk.com.




I have had fun with this, because I never draw snow, tank or city ruins before. Gimp, no layers, no reference, around 3 hours. Suggestions and critique or even questions more than welcome. The composition and perspective could be somewhat better I think, but I sort of like it. Tell me if you think (or feel) that any area should be sharper.
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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #75 on: September 19, 2009, 04:48:11 am »
Oooh, nice!  ;)
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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #76 on: September 19, 2009, 09:41:41 pm »
Nice stuff. I can see a lot of potential in that last pic. Maybe add some grizzly details.  8)
Here's some of the stuff I'm seeing in the Alchemy shapes: http://collaboratenow.cozimo.com/collaborate?url=http%3A//fc00.deviantart.com/fs51/i/2009/262/7/5/mission_f_______failed_by_Nrekkvan.png
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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #77 on: September 19, 2009, 09:50:07 pm »
How will someone know that there is snow in that image?  :P

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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #78 on: September 19, 2009, 09:51:02 pm »
I thought it was Black n White.


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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #79 on: September 20, 2009, 12:23:10 am »
How will someone know that there is snow in that image?  :P

It does indeed look like a camouflaged version of a snowy picture. The only hint is the ice on the tank.

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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #80 on: September 20, 2009, 01:40:22 am »
Thanks for reactions guys. You are actually better feedback then I ever got on any art-related forum. I have two possibilities. Add a light blue gradient to the entire image, then the white snow would pop up. Or make it snowing. But I sort of like it as dead as it is.

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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #81 on: September 20, 2009, 01:59:16 am »
I like it how it is, the snow doesn't have to be apparent.


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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #82 on: September 20, 2009, 09:13:42 am »
dude, this stuff is bloody awesome.

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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #83 on: September 20, 2009, 02:36:56 pm »
OverKill, click 'Collaborators' then you can show/hide stuff from various people (Timbo's dick).
Hide my skull outlines and take a look at the Alchemy-generated noise to see why I outlined those areas.

Anyways, this is just to show some people here what Alchemy is good for. ;)

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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #84 on: September 20, 2009, 04:09:15 pm »
This last one I actually did not use alchemy, entire image was in gimp on one layer. To get some initial weight I used a few huge custom brushes and splitters. I can still see most of your skulls, well found. And someone added a tank crew as well!








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Actually since this has become such a community gathering, which makes me happy, and the topic says "My Tremulous pictures", not "OverKills Tremulous pictures", feel free to post any sketches you made in Alchemy (or Gimp, by hand, whatever you fancy), just obey the forum rules. Feedback feels good and it's fun, so why not try it.
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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #85 on: September 22, 2009, 11:47:53 pm »
dude, i have to say, your drawings are really awesome =D keep it up!

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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #86 on: September 23, 2009, 01:01:01 am »
Me likey teh robo.

Who liked my dragons? :D



By the way the one on the right I messed up on and got frustrated because I couldn't undo. :P

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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #87 on: September 23, 2009, 01:39:29 am »
Me likey teh robo.

Who liked my dragons? :D



By the way the one on the right I messed up on and got frustrated because I couldn't undo. :P

I lol'd hard.


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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #88 on: September 23, 2009, 01:47:53 am »
We all see different patterns. Nux however sees penis patterns.

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Re: My Tremulous pictures (Updating every now and then)
« Reply #89 on: September 23, 2009, 02:16:23 am »
I was myself rather surprised how phallic it got, but it reminded me of good times and laughs we had on a high school. And it was me who really liked the dragons, Nux. I even started adding one before I realized it would fit the environment perfectly, but absolutely killed the picture composition.