Grudge Match: The Sea Men Syndicate vs. Xenocide [Finished: {&} Wins 2-0]

[~gear]

OMG IABZ WHY DO U ALWAYS USE ME AS AN EXAMPLE OR w/e EVEN THOUGH I TOTALY AGREE WITH IT 

[AppleJuice]

I would have unbanned you, but I don't actually see your ban..
I try to tell people not to abuse, but I can't control everyone. I also can't say it won't happen again, because it was obviously a joke. Perhaps you took it too seriously? Anyway, you don't show up in showbans, meaning whoever banned you removed it soon afterwards. Hardly worth a post, considering your clan banned all of us from their mumble for being in {&}.
YUP THIS IS PETTY ALRIGHT

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@the demo: It's dustin, what else is new? Why are you surprised?
Ban appeals for our server should be posted at http://seamen.sikiri.com, not tremulous.net

Edit:

Ozzy has always been bad at defending himself.

It's like beating up a retarded kid.

You feel bad about it afterwards......

LMAO

[KamikOzzy]

Ozzy has always been bad at defending himself.

It's like beating up a retarded kid.

You feel bad about it afterwards......

I don't even know you?

[IabzO.o]

No hard feelings, just cocks.

[AppleJuice]

Ok, this is rly off-topic now
The Grudge Match is over
/callvote poll locktopic

[Nux]

Ban appeals for our server should be posted at http://seamen.sikiri.com, not tremulous.net

No ban appeal here. Was using it as an example. You might understand if I don't want to play on a server which has admins like that.

@the demo: It's dustin, what else is new? Why are you surprised?

That's exactly what I don't get. Why is it that you and so many others just accept them as dicks and decide to let them go on in their dickery ways. No wonder he was so suprised when someone actually punished him for it.

This is very on-topic because the only 'grudge' I've seen so far has come from the (&) clan with it's dick and let dick attitude, whereas Ryan has been nothing but nice about you winning that match.

Good scirm guys

Top 5 NA clans
1. & - They beat ><
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[Kaine]

Tragically, you and Ryan are not exactly "High profile" >< players... the ones making waves are.  The real question is why nice guys like you are even associated with >< in the first place.

[Helix.]

>< has unfortunately just gone down hill tbh

[KamikOzzy]

That's exactly what I don't get. Why is it that you and so many others just accept them as dicks and decide to let them go on in their dickery ways. No wonder he was so suprised when someone actually punished him for it.

Guilty. Dustin was set level 1 on AA yesterday, coincidentally. Got tired of hearing about him on AIM.

@ Kaine nice guys have always been associated with ><, as far back as I remember. 3of12, Equilibrium, TMLer, the two you mentioned, denton I think.
How many nice guys are associated with &? >.>

[AppleJuice]

Nux, far more people in (><) than in {&} are "dicks." Why do you accept them? Perhaps because you don't interact with them very often, or because they are different people around you? I don't know. I will say that you, Ryanw and maybe one or two other members of (><) are nice, but the rest of your clan is not. You should speak for yourself, not for your clan, because your arguments do not hold when regarded in that light.

To answer your question: most of us know when dustin is joking around, and treat it as such.

P.S. Dustin does not have admin, and I don't understand if you "don't want to play on a server which has admins like that," because I always see you on AA. That's not to say that every admin on AA abuses, but there are always one or two admins who get carried away sometimes (on both AA and on &).

Honestly, I should have just quoted Kaine.

Tragically, you and Ryan are not exactly "High profile" >< players... the ones making waves are.  The real question is why nice guys like you are even associated with >< in the first place.

@Ozzy: We have plenty of "nice" guys: Amine, Kriegsgott, Iabz (in his silly way), Dracone, LeStrange, men, etc..
Unless your definition for "nice guy" is the same as your definition for sycophant

[Nux]

I'm glad for your reasoned responses, not least because I just got called nice a lot. :]

You're right, I'm sorry for insulting the whole of (&) based on a couple of members. That wasn't fair.

It's also true that I could be missing a huge amount of dickery in >< because I simply haven't been around to see it.

So what should I know about my clanmates?

[KamikOzzy]

Nux isn't nice!!!!

Maybe it's been too long since I've played trem, but who in >< are dicks, exactly?

[FreaK]

I dunno we went inactive in trem for around 3 months then everyone hates us

[Grape]

myth killed >< like he killed vr and mon gg

[Ryanw4390]

myth killed >< like he killed vr and mon gg

Yeah that Myth fellow is far more trouble then he is worth!

Maybe it's been too long since I've played trem, but who in >< are dicks, exactly?

OZZY Yeah I'd like to know that too.

[IabzO.o]

myth killed >< like he killed vr and mon gg

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DICKS AND GRAPE THE DICKSUCKER IS HERE!!!

[AppleJuice]

Ok, I'll outline it for everyone

I make a clan meant for pub games, since I'm tired of scrims
Freak doesn't agree with my opinion, and I respect his choice (on the forums)
blood flames us for not scrimming, however (as usual)
I respond on the forums, but let it go, since he wasn't making sense anyway
Myth comes onto our server and tells me FreaK has been flaming me "so much" on mumble (I haven't said anything to him other than on trem.net)
Meanwhile, Asylum challenges us to a scrim, and we agree to try it again
It was extremely fun, so we decide to start scrimming again
blood now flames us for deciding to scrim
I respond, again
We scrim a few more times against PmW and Asylum
I post some clan rankings based on skill
FreaK claims >< is the best clan
We all think that's ridiculous, since it's coming from...FreaK
We scrim >< for the first time and tie
FreaK quotes himself for no reason
I respond, saying quite a few clans have beaten them recently, so it's weird for them to call themselves the best clan (in harsher words)
I also mention that they just tied us
I do, however, say gg
Freak flames me in response
I respond
Myth tries to flame me
I respond
j-cool IMs me on AIM (why does he have my sn), saying something about starting drama (he doesn't write english that well)
We then start asking (><) to scrim, since FreaK clams we haven't scrimmed that much, and so we can't claim to be good yet
They refuse to scrim us
I'm banned randomly from their mumble server (I went on and idled for 5 minutes)
Whenever we ask them for a scrim, they say no, and then 5 minutes later we see them scrimming a different clan
They still flame us for not scrimming/changing our minds/scrimming/who even knows anymore
j-cool indirectly tries to steal Iabz (he's the only one I know of, who knows who else)
j-cool apparently steals King from asylum, a clan I respect
I admit I asked jit to join us, but I have no qualms stealing from a clan that steals from other clans
we continue to ask >< for a scrim, but now they start banning our members from their server/mumble
I make a few posts calling them out, and j-cool PMs kevlarman and has several posts deleted
I create the Grudge Match topic
They still refuse to scrim us for about a week
freak calls us stupid whenever he gets the chance (he loves that word!)
we eventually stop caring and scrim other clans
they ask us for a scrim in the middle of another scrim (last night)
we scrim them and win 2-0
they finally stop talking shit
however, blood still flames us in-game (which is lolwalrus)
the rest is HISTORY

I actually don't really care about any of this. I'm not offended, and to be honest, I really enjoyed the past few weeks of Tremulous! Why else would I keep playing? But as you can see, they started almost all of this...I simply responded.

O shit that's really long, but luckily, I can type fairly quickly, and I'm waiting for my dog to take a shit (he has constipation, )

Personally, I think all the nice players from (><) should quit it and form their own clan, but that's up to them.

(Before anyone says I spend too much time on this game, #1: you're right, and #2: the ones who usually say that spend far more time than I do on trem)
inb4 grape says it

[Twofacedrat]

I see how it is Apple... NO MENTION OF ME AT ALL.

/dislike

[Grape]

however, blood still flames us in-game (which is lolwalrus)

havent been on trem in a while nice!

[AppleJuice]

Twofacedrat comes back to trem and has 9 days left to gather enough OPP members to scrim {&}

[Twofacedrat]

win

[FreaK]

*random biased info*

You post everything that happened to you, but you leave all the shit you do out. All this flaming started because you guys start flaming 3of12 for no apparent reason. I said we have yet to prove we weren't the best clan and I didn't say you guys weren't good, I said you haven't scrimmed enough to prove you were the best clan. The & clan comes in our server and decons, griefs and Apple spams my server with bots. You guys act all innocent and you were the ones that started all of this for no reason. It happens every time you guys come back to tremulous and make a new clan. You start all this drama for no reason just to amuse yourself. Just because I call you an idiot and stupid doesn't mean I'm not a nice person, I'm just not nice to idiots

Also, Xenocide has tons of nice people, & on the other hand has a bunch of retards. You guys sit on spec on public servers flame people and callvote kick mute/kick people for no reason.

[AppleJuice]

Nah, I've never flamed 3of12. What would I say?
As far as I know, most of us haven't deconned anywhere.
We didn't start this, as you and blood started all the flaming (I didn't say anything bad to you before Myth told me you were flaming me)
There you go again calling people retards! Most of us don't really know you very well, so it's funny when you say stuff like that.
We also don't really sit on spec. We play as aliases, most of the time!

Like I said, I don't really mind all of this. Calling me an idiot just makes the game more enjoyable for me. I'm just pointing out to those who aren't informed who really started all of this.

This topic should have been locked a while ago tho

[Twofacedrat]

"no you!"

[Grape]

we got the IP from the server log but, whatever! anyway, sry for flaming & clan ok!

[Yarou]

Nux clearly does not understand sarcasm, I guess they don't teach that in Europe.

@Mods : Please lock, the point has been made many times.

[Kaine]

Nux clearly does not understand sarcasm, I guess they don't teach that in Europe.

^.^

@FreaK's 3o'12 statement: I believe you may be referencing some of the "3of12 hate" after .!vR died.  Myself, and several other people were misinformed and told that 3of12 had provided Myth (See also: Failfuck) with a condump that led to a bitchfest on the vR forums, and it's demise.  Based on the (mis)information that we had been given, it appeared that 3of12 was not the loveably cuddly teddybear we thought he was, and some outrage was expressed.

As it turns out, 3of12 is in fact still a very loveable mothefucker, Myth is still a failfuck, and whoever caused the .!vR drama is still unknown to me, but I no longer care.

[KamikOzzy]

O shit that's really long, but luckily, I can type fairly quickly, and I'm waiting for my dog to take a shit (he has constipation, )

Nice cover.

(Before anyone says I spend too much time on this game, #1: you're right, and #2: the ones who usually say that spend far more time than I do on trem)
inb4 grape says it

I think you spend too much time trying to piss people off, and put forth zero effort into getting along with anyone who isn't useful to you.

[Ryanw4390]

Personally, I think all the nice players from (><) should quit it and form their own clan, but that's up to them.

If we did that >< would have 0 members

[AppleJuice]

O shit that's really long, but luckily, I can type fairly quickly, and I'm waiting for my dog to take a shit (he has constipation, )

Nice cover.

(Before anyone says I spend too much time on this game, #1: you're right, and #2: the ones who usually say that spend far more time than I do on trem)
inb4 grape says it

I think you spend too much time trying to piss people off, and put forth zero effort into getting along with anyone who isn't useful to you.

@ the cover stuff: Ok, I guess I'm not supposed to have a dog who needs to shit
@ the other stuff: huh? I'm nice to most people who PM me in-game...maybe you'd have to come off of your server, AA, in order to see that, but since you don't, I don't see why you think you know my personality. I don't really talk to you. I don't really know you. Trem.net forums != tremulous, the game. I give random noobs tips through PMs, and I'm currently trying to train 2 people who aren't even in my clan (although I haven't had much time recently, sorry). I'm not going to pretend to know what you do on your server, so that's all I'll say.

For someone who thinks I'm not worth his time, you sure do seem to keep coming back to this topic to flame me. Perhaps you're entertained?

P.S. Useful? Jeez dude, stop smoking for a second and take a moment to understand that I think Tremulous is a game; no one is useful. I don't use people. I'm sorry to see that that is how you think of trem players.

I guess the mods rly did give up on this section, so I'll stop /callvoting locktopic. too lazy to send PMs anyway