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Re: It's the end for 1.1: Evidence shown! Images Leaked!
« Reply #750 on: June 15, 2011, 05:04:39 am »
i like the humans hud, the aliens need a new hud(like alien vision, yyou can see better in the dark, and see enemies that are near, or even if they are hidden behind walls,aliens can smell their victims.) and you can see your arms/legs in Fist person vision(like avp).

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friend mara looks a lot like a 'nid on the arms now.

not that that's a bad thing.

say, any images of friend basi?
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« Reply #751 on: June 15, 2011, 07:43:20 am »
The picture of the marauder is very nice, however the pattern doesn't really feel organic enough to me. It's close to being very good, but it looks too human and not enough alien.
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« Reply #752 on: June 15, 2011, 07:51:46 am »
* c4 wonders why THZ is part of the hud.

If I recall correctly, Volt was caught contributing to the THZ project, so it makes sense that he would use it.

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« Reply #753 on: June 15, 2011, 11:33:26 am »
claws are above the hud
(models are drawn before the hud)
claws have curved but pixelated outline
(a model would have polygonal outline)

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« Reply #754 on: June 15, 2011, 05:52:21 pm »
one suggestion for shotgun model:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgYA4UxtY-A
the big box is not good, it makes no sense.
my suggestion, remove big box, shotgun use en bloc clips(like m1, but, with shotgun shells) : ).

It makes sense because Tremulous isn't 2011, shut up now.
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« Reply #755 on: June 15, 2011, 08:51:34 pm »
does the weight of the weapon is unbalanced with the big box(much weight on the right is almost impossible to aim well), and another thing, the box is too big for a weapon that has only 8 shots of ammunition.

tremulous is happening in the future, but in an apocalyptic future,limited mineral resources, lots of recycling(If you notice, the weapons have a texture of being old, such as human building, or act textures). This explains the system of credits, it would be easier to give the best weapons for all the soldiers if it was possible : ).


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« Reply #756 on: June 15, 2011, 09:02:29 pm »
tremulous is happening in the future, but in an apocalyptic future
Wait a minute. What?

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« Reply #757 on: June 15, 2011, 09:51:19 pm »
he is referring to the story

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"Earth, 2147. The legacy of the Bug Wars, when man fought bugs and bugs won. Dretches, monstrous creations that hunt down human survivors and eat them. Volcania, center of the Bug empire, stronghold and fortress of Lord Granger, feared ruler of this new order. But from the fires of the Bug Wars arose a new breed of warrior, born and trained to bring down Lord Granger and his Dretch empire. They were soldiers of the future, mankind's last hope. Their leader, Captain John Painsaw; master of the incredible battlesuits, which transform each soldier into a one-man attack force. Major John "Jetpack" Blaster, fighter in the sky. Lt. John "Chainsuit" Grenade, ground assault unit. Sgt. John "Helmet" Pulserifle, espionage and communications. And Corporal John "Ckit" Deconner, tactical systems expert. Together, they form the most powerful fighting force in Earth's history. Their creed: to protect all life. Their promise: to end Lord Granger's rule. Their name: Captain Painsaw and the Clone Soldiers of the Future!"

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« Reply #758 on: June 15, 2011, 10:29:39 pm »
he is referring to the story

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"Earth, 2147. The legacy of the Bug Wars, when man fought bugs and bugs won. Dretches, monstrous creations that hunt down human survivors and eat them. Volcania, center of the Bug empire, stronghold and fortress of Lord Granger, feared ruler of this new order. But from the fires of the Bug Wars arose a new breed of warrior, born and trained to bring down Lord Granger and his Dretch empire. They were soldiers of the future, mankind's last hope. Their leader, Captain John Painsaw; master of the incredible battlesuits, which transform each soldier into a one-man attack force. Major John "Jetpack" Blaster, fighter in the sky. Lt. John "Chainsuit" Grenade, ground assault unit. Sgt. John "Helmet" Pulserifle, espionage and communications. And Corporal John "Ckit" Deconner, tactical systems expert. Together, they form the most powerful fighting force in Earth's history. Their creed: to protect all life. Their promise: to end Lord Granger's rule. Their name: Captain Painsaw and the Clone Soldiers of the Future!"

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« Reply #759 on: June 16, 2011, 12:34:35 am »
he is referring to the story

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"Earth, 2147. The legacy of the Bug Wars, when man fought bugs and bugs won. Dretches, monstrous creations that hunt down human survivors and eat them. Volcania, center of the Bug empire, stronghold and fortress of Lord Granger, feared ruler of this new order. But from the fires of the Bug Wars arose a new breed of warrior, born and trained to bring down Lord Granger and his Dretch empire. They were soldiers of the future, mankind's last hope. Their leader, Captain John Painsaw; master of the incredible battlesuits, which transform each soldier into a one-man attack force. Major John "Jetpack" Blaster, fighter in the sky. Lt. John "Chainsuit" Grenade, ground assault unit. Sgt. John "Helmet" Pulserifle, espionage and communications. And Corporal John "Ckit" Deconner, tactical systems expert. Together, they form the most powerful fighting force in Earth's history. Their creed: to protect all life. Their promise: to end Lord Granger's rule. Their name: Captain Painsaw and the Clone Soldiers of the Future!"

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ok, can you give me the tool thingy app that can code?

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« Reply #760 on: June 16, 2011, 04:19:40 pm »
claws are above the hud
(models are drawn before the hud)
claws have curved but pixelated outline
(a model would have polygonal outline)

I asked volt about this, it's not a model its a animation shader, basically since he wasn't going to wait around for the models to be done he used the claws image renders from Stannum site along with the map zap video to put together a image sequence. That he then converted to shader animation sequences for trem. So curved but pixelated outline is expected..., he said he's working on making it look more natural. But stop assuming things, makes you look like an ass later on :P
* c4 wonders why THZ is part of the hud.

If I recall correctly, Volt was caught contributing to the THZ project, so it makes sense that he would use it.

Yea this is volt we're talking about, and thz isn't necessarily part of the HUD that's just volts preferred client of choice i guess.
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« Reply #761 on: June 16, 2011, 04:23:51 pm »
so I was correct. it is safe to assume it is a shoop (in-game or not)
at least take some time to draw it below the hud

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« Reply #762 on: June 16, 2011, 04:26:39 pm »
so I was correct. it is safe to assume it is a shoop (in-game or not)
at least take some time to draw it below the hud

Ok, I have to apologize again. That image i posted was photoshoped it was a mock design, But he says that he has it working ingame and he made sure that its drawn before the hud to make it look more natural. So i guess I was wrong before, I'll post screenshots when he updates his feed.
found this in his album thought it looked nice, I think it's missing something but will wait for further updates.
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« Reply #763 on: June 16, 2011, 05:16:07 pm »
The picture of the marauder is very nice, however the pattern doesn't really feel organic enough to me. It's close to being very good, but it looks too human and not enough alien.

I think he's going for the old 'fly vision' look.

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« Reply #764 on: June 16, 2011, 05:53:54 pm »
so I was correct. it is safe to assume it is a shoop (in-game or not)
at least take some time to draw it below the hud

Ok, I have to apologize again. That image i posted was photoshoped it was a mock design, But he says that he has it working ingame and he made sure that its drawn before the hud to make it look more natural. So i guess I was wrong before, I'll post screenshots when he updates his feed.
found this in his album thought it looked nice, I think it's missing something but will wait for further updates.

That is the single dumbest idea I have ever heard.
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« Reply #765 on: June 16, 2011, 06:01:50 pm »
so I was correct. it is safe to assume it is a shoop (in-game or not)
at least take some time to draw it below the hud

Ok, I have to apologize again. That image i posted was photoshoped it was a mock design, But he says that he has it working ingame and he made sure that its drawn before the hud to make it look more natural. So i guess I was wrong before, I'll post screenshots when he updates his feed.
found this in his album thought it looked nice, I think it's missing something but will wait for further updates.
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That is the single dumbest idea I have ever heard.
I don't quite follow? please explain

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« Reply #766 on: June 16, 2011, 07:13:27 pm »
so I was correct. it is safe to assume it is a shoop (in-game or not)
at least take some time to draw it below the hud

Ok, I have to apologize again. That image i posted was photoshoped it was a mock design, But he says that he has it working ingame and he made sure that its drawn before the hud to make it look more natural. So i guess I was wrong before, I'll post screenshots when he updates his feed.
found this in his album thought it looked nice, I think it's missing something but will wait for further updates.
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That is the single dumbest idea I have ever heard.
I don't quite follow? please explain
I think you guys are confusing "before" in time and distance.
Time: Drawing the choppers before the HUD means the choppers will be behind the HUD, so you can see them behind the HUD
Distance: Drawing the choppers before the HUD means that they will be in front of the HUD and just look stupid, like in the picture
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« Reply #767 on: June 16, 2011, 07:14:46 pm »
so I was correct. it is safe to assume it is a shoop (in-game or not)
at least take some time to draw it below the hud

Ok, I have to apologize again. That image i posted was photoshoped it was a mock design, But he says that he has it working ingame and he made sure that its drawn before the hud to make it look more natural. So i guess I was wrong before, I'll post screenshots when he updates his feed.
found this in his album thought it looked nice, I think it's missing something but will wait for further updates.
pic
That is the single dumbest idea I have ever heard.
I don't quite follow? please explain

At a guess, plague bringer said that because normally the hud would be drawn last by force of the engine not by choice. In this case though, it's been explained that the effect is not a model but a shader which I guess means he had a choice whether to put it in front or behind the hud.

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« Reply #768 on: June 16, 2011, 07:17:27 pm »
Why would you want that?  It's just going to get in the way of what you can see, and look *really* stupid with two sets of choppers when you attack.
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« Reply #769 on: June 16, 2011, 07:24:43 pm »
My guess was that he meant 'behind the hud' which is the one that looks more natural.

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« Reply #770 on: June 16, 2011, 08:29:04 pm »
Why would you want that?  It's just going to get in the way of what you can see, and look *really* stupid with two sets of choppers when you attack.
Well from volt "Aliens need some form of hit recognition whether it be claws or streak lines on the screen old 1.1 tremulous dev servers" so he's testing out a few different things to try and get some sort of working hit recognition system up and running for aliens.

We all remember how it was to play the Dretch for the first time, How to attack? was one of the first questions asked. Had there been a hit recognition it would have curved the learning curve of the Dretch some.

 Lets just see where he takes this and then thank him for his contribution. What I've noticed from reading older topics from molders or coders who were working on trem is that the community chased them away, we tend to be nitpicky about things people make for us in their free time. Lets remember that he's working on this in his free time and that we shouldn't be so demanding.

There's an old saying, "If you don't like it, then do it yourself"
So when he does release it edit it to your preference, until then lets encourage him so he works on it more and releases it sooner.

Also he's beta testing now and currently looking for windows/mac/linux users to test the hud/menus on their computers
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« Reply #771 on: June 16, 2011, 08:48:03 pm »
Creature nailed it. If the choppers are being drawn before, as in prior to, as in behind, the HUD, then it's fine, otherwise it's unnatural and awkward, like in that screenshot.

David: Are you grumpy about the choppers or their being drawn above the HUD?
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« Reply #772 on: June 16, 2011, 09:09:23 pm »
I'm grumpy about them being drawn at all, when they should be rendered in nice shiny animated 3dness.
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« Reply #773 on: June 16, 2011, 10:01:16 pm »
I'm grumpy about them being drawn at all, when they should be rendered in nice shiny animated 3dness.

Get Stannum to release the claws to volt or make them and give them to him. Until then bear with the work around for the claws until the offical shinny ones come out.

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« Reply #774 on: June 16, 2011, 11:31:11 pm »
Or, could just wait for the proper ones.

The entire reason the devs no longer release stuff early is because retards make half-arsed things with them, and all the rest of the retards get confused and blame the devs for the resulting shit and confusion.  Just learn some patience, pop a Ritalin, and wait until it's finished.
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« Reply #775 on: June 16, 2011, 11:32:39 pm »
Did they release something early other than code?

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« Reply #776 on: June 17, 2011, 10:45:13 am »
Well there was the new human hud jex made, he released a mockup and paradox repackaged and released it.  None of it worked.

Mostly code changes though.
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« Reply #777 on: June 17, 2011, 01:59:47 pm »
I'm grumpy about them being drawn at all, when they should be rendered in nice shiny animated 3dness.

Get Stannum to release the claws to volt or make them and give them to him. Until then bear with the work around for the claws until the offical shinny ones come out.

Models are worse than the animations IMO, the animations don't eat up fps.  ::) ::)

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« Reply #778 on: June 18, 2011, 12:13:54 am »
David had the 777th post in this thread. Reapd had the 777th reply in this thread.

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« Reply #779 on: June 18, 2011, 08:24:16 am »
David had the 777th post in this thread. Reapd had the 777th reply in this thread.
You're a well-hidden spy in this thread.

You make up Qrntz, u always angry, just calmdown. :police:
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