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Started by Winnie the Pooh, September 15, 2009, 12:00:08 AM

Winnie the Pooh

Stannum do you see this guy?



Do you know why he's so popular? It's because he includes his community in his development progress. and also minecraft. But that's irrelevant!
The point here is that maybe you should be a little bit more like him in this particular aspect. It would definitely help attract attention and right now I think that's one of the best things that can be done for tremulous.
QuoteI also realize that this is the internet, but even more so this is the forum for a video game on an internet, then even beyond that this is TREMULOUS forums the Satan version of all video game forums for a video game that is ON the internet.

Odin

Quote from: Winnie the Pooh on August 03, 2011, 06:04:12 AM
Stannum do you see this guy?



Do you know why he's so popular? It's because he includes his community in his development progress. and also minecraft. But that's irrelevant!
The point here is that maybe you should be a little bit more like him in this particular aspect. It would definitely help attract attention and right now I think that's one of the best things that can be done for tremulous.
And only this aspect.

KillerWhale


Quote from: Winnie the Pooh on August 03, 2011, 06:04:12 AM
Stannum do you see this guy?



Do you know why he's so popular? It's because he includes his community in his development progress. and also minecraft. But that's irrelevant!
The point here is that maybe you should be a little bit more like him in this particular aspect. It would definitely help attract attention and right now I think that's one of the best things that can be done for tremulous.
I don't think that crowd sourcing could honestly improve upon Stannum's work (it's really just too damn good), and the work of the other devs has completely conflicting viewpoints from opposing sides in the community. Also, there's the difference that Minecraft is going from beta->release and is missing crucial features, while Trem is release->release and things are mostly matter of opinion.

On top of that, Minecraft has it's own engine, doesn't need to worry about balance, etc. etc.

Very different situations.


iRa`

so how many models stannum need to do ?
.. is 1.2 maybe now at 90 % finished or still under 50 % -.-'
just release this game finaly .. *hope this gonna be this year*

vcxzet


Nux

Quote from: Winnie the Pooh on August 03, 2011, 06:04:12 AM
Stannum do you see this guy?



Do you know why he's so popular? It's because he includes his community in his development progress. and also minecraft. But that's irrelevant!
The point here is that maybe you should be a little bit more like him in this particular aspect. It would definitely help attract attention and right now I think that's one of the best things that can be done for tremulous.

Are you saying he should KICK IT UP A NOTCH?

WarLock

Stannum, you do a realy nice work, and i can't wait the realease of all the new model/animation stuff. wish this will be done before 21 decembre 2012 .... ;)

Anyway, Your work is amazing.

WarLock
Qui sème le vent récolte la tempête


wolfbr

Quote from: WarLock on August 03, 2011, 04:56:57 PM
wish this will be done before 21 decembre 2012 .... ;)

you are very optimistic, lol.
I like to see the new models because they are beautiful,i do not think that will be present in a tremulous in the near future.(humans weapons models, players models, aliens models, aliens weapons models, humans/aliens Structures..) and others things like trems sounds,maps or gameplay balance = long way to 1.2

Firstinaction

#879
Quote from: iRa` on August 03, 2011, 12:54:03 PM
so how many models stannum need to do ?
.. is 1.2 maybe now at 90 % finished or still under 50 % -.-'
just release this game finaly .. *hope this gonna be this year*
nahh he is not even close too finishing.  But I'd say he is about around 55%

Face the facts
Due to done human weapons and alien claws.  Now after what 5 years of getting to this point.  Now another 5 years for redoing human models, alien models, and buildables.    Just think about it.  "He might be a one man army, but he is just one man". He isn't getting paid, meaning it's not top priority to get 1.2. Trust me.  Dude has pride in his work, he isn't releasing jack!  So pretty much 1.2 is a joke.  

F1rst19  :P

A Spork

Quote from: Nux on August 03, 2011, 03:57:42 PM
Quote from: Winnie the Pooh on August 03, 2011, 06:04:12 AM
Stannum do you see this guy?



Do you know why he's so popular? It's because he includes his community in his development progress. and also minecraft. But that's irrelevant!
The point here is that maybe you should be a little bit more like him in this particular aspect. It would definitely help attract attention and right now I think that's one of the best things that can be done for tremulous.

Are you saying he should KICK IT UP A NOTCH?
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WarLock

i dont realy understand why everything need to be done for the 1.2 release (sound, hud, player models, gun modles, claw models alien modles, build modles).

if you try to make this, its sure that 1.2 will never be release. Look i follow trem devlopment form the first standalone, and i think that the task can realy be speedup if you make updated pk3 of single task change. Think about the balance change Norf made. He dont come up with final balance change in 1 shoot. and GPP dont stand for Gameplay Preview ?

So when you have human gun ready, release a pk3 update of it
Sound ready make a pk3 of it
Hud ready make a pk3
Alien claw make a pk3
Build structure release a pk3 again
Building Radius done release a pk3
Ect...

Like this the community see change, can't post constructive comment, and everyone is happy.
Wish some wise dev will focus work like this, one task at a time
My 2 cent, and sorry for my poor english again

WarLock

Qui sème le vent récolte la tempête


Volt

Quote from: WarLock on August 04, 2011, 02:14:42 PM
i dont realy understand why everything need to be done for the 1.2 release (sound, hud, player models, gun modles, claw models alien modles, build modles).

if you try to make this, its sure that 1.2 will never be release. Look i follow trem devlopment form the first standalone, and i think that the task can realy be speedup if you make updated pk3 of single task change. Think about the balance change Norf made. He dont come up with final balance change in 1 shoot. and GPP dont stand for Gameplay Preview ?

So when you have human gun ready, release a pk3 update of it
Sound ready make a pk3 of it
Hud ready make a pk3
Alien claw make a pk3
Build structure release a pk3 again
Building Radius done release a pk3
Ect...

Like this the community see change, can't post constructive comment, and everyone is happy.
Wish some wise dev will focus work like this, one task at a time
My 2 cent, and sorry for my poor english again

WarLock



Or you guys could stop trying to tell the developers what to do and help out where you can,




vcxzet

one artist
one and a half coder
a few website designers who change the forum layout each year
a game designer who is obsessed with balance.
a high council of procrastinators.
a lot of people trying to help.
(unfortunately, they are not aware that no matter what they do, the designer and the procrastinators won't allow a release.)

That is not how you develop a game.
LOL

Tremulant

Quote from: Firstinaction on April 07, 2011, 03:36:46 AM
my knees by my face and my ass is being hammered


David

I find it funny how you're all blaming Norf and balance.

If you can be so out of touch on that, why should I trust a word you say?
Any maps not in the MG repo?  Email me or come to irc.freenode.net/#mg.
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I'm disappointed that people's past actions have forced me to state what should be obvious.
I am not a dev.  Nothing I say counts for anything.

Nux

Quote from: WarLock on August 04, 2011, 02:14:42 PM
So when you have human gun ready, release a pk3 update of it
Sound ready make a pk3 of it
Hud ready make a pk3
Alien claw make a pk3
Build structure release a pk3 again
Building Radius done release a pk3
Ect...

Seems like a valid point to me. This is stannum deciding what he does with his models, which he has every right to do, but it seems like he could really help the image of progress being made if he did release this stuff as he makes it. He seems to be going for the big release method at the moment, but the longer this takes the more big it will have to be to maintain support for it. Even if he only released a weapon every 2 months it would be something to give the impression of pace to the development of tremulous that it severely lacks at this time.

Creative1

Quote from: Nux on August 04, 2011, 08:26:38 PM
Quote from: WarLock on August 04, 2011, 02:14:42 PM
So when you have human gun ready, release a pk3 update of it
Sound ready make a pk3 of it
Hud ready make a pk3
Alien claw make a pk3
Build structure release a pk3 again
Building Radius done release a pk3
Ect...

Seems like a valid point to me. This is stannum deciding what he does with his models, which he has every right to do, but it seems like he could really help the image of progress being made if he did release this stuff as he makes it. He seems to be going for the big release method at the moment, but the longer this takes the more big it will have to be to maintain support for it. Even if he only released a weapon every 2 months it would be something to give the impression of pace to the development of tremulous that it severely lacks at this time.
In my opinion, as long as you keep the community updated on what you're doing, I would prefer to have a big release. Just because people may get bored with the new release really fast, and 1.2 won't really be as big of a surprise, or a new game. At least, that is my opinion.
Quote from: fedorarocks on January 21, 2012, 05:26:26 PM
i could possibly make a server on windows then switch back to linux and use that same server

vcxzet

once they released an unfinished version of tremulous. result was bad; people actually liked it. unacceptable.

wolfbr

might be interesting to release the beta material, people might suggest (or create) improvements. like true combat cqb, a alpha game, the creator always release new stuff for people to test, so when everything is ready, the game will certainly be better. urban terror HD has a similar process.


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one suggestion for pulse rifle model, I think eotech does not fit the model very much, perhaps more futurist could be better(exemple: video cameras), like a FN F2000, XM25. or add a heartbeat sensor/Reddot in some gun(if it works, Why the hell do we need a non functional heartbeat sensor? : P)

Plague Bringer

Quote from: wolfbr on August 04, 2011, 10:33:51 PM
one suggestion for pulse rifle model, I think eotech does not fit the model very much, perhaps more futurist could be better(exemple: video cameras), like a FN F2000, XM25. or add a heartbeat sensor/Reddot in some gun(if it works, Why the hell do we need a non functional heartbeat sensor? : P)
better: why do we need any?
U R A Q T

wolfbr

i like alien's movie : D (and, Smartgun is cool, in the movies, this weapon has a motion sensor).

exemple: in tremulous, buy helmet+chaigun = chaigun with motion sensor(but,The gun will not aim for you like avp) : P

OhaiReapd

Love how people ignored volts post. LOL. Glad to see what your working on.

Gorn

#894
I played a lot with the version of tremulous between 2009 and 2010. I play less this year. As a player, I need some simple changes such as new official maps, some changes in textures or model of weapon.

I understand a little English and I do not often have the status of the game. We've been salivating at the wonderful screenshots (models, textures, maps, ...) but no version is released.

Why not upgrade to minor version as 1.1.1, 1.1.2, 1.1.3, ... that would bring some changes but it would feel to players (who do not follow the development) that the game is changing and that this project is still alive ...

It's just my opinion
Sorry for my english

Qrntz

Quote from: The Cathedral and the Bazaar, Eric S. Raymond
Release early. Release often. And listen to your customers.
No? Fine. Look at Volt's post and 'salivate'.

Quote from: {FoT|PeDrO} on December 14, 2011, 02:07:41 PMYou make up Qrntz, u always angry, just calmdown. :police:
Quote from: Loki on March 13, 2013, 10:27:57 AMI am stupid idiot who dares to open mouth and start debating

OhaiReapd

Quote from: Qrntz on August 05, 2011, 04:15:35 PM
Quote from: The Cathedral and the Bazaar, Eric S. Raymond
Release early. Release often. And listen to your customers.
No? Fine. Look at Volt's post and 'salivate'.

Dude, that shit is 3x better than what the dev's have shown us.

Plague Bringer

Quote from: OhaiReapd on August 05, 2011, 04:19:49 PM
Quote from: Qrntz on August 05, 2011, 04:15:35 PM
Quote from: The Cathedral and the Bazaar, Eric S. Raymond
Release early. Release often. And listen to your customers.
No? Fine. Look at Volt's post and 'salivate'.

Dude, that shit is 3x better than what the dev's have shown us.
The HUD? Yes. The human is poorly proportioned and the "dretch" (though I doubt it is anything other than a random spider) is impractically high-poly. Not to mention that alien modeling would likely extend the release date by a hefty amount of months, regardless of how many (few) community members joined in.
U R A Q T

Volt

Quote from: Plague Bringer on August 05, 2011, 06:37:03 PM
Quote from: OhaiReapd on August 05, 2011, 04:19:49 PM
Quote from: Qrntz on August 05, 2011, 04:15:35 PM
Quote from: The Cathedral and the Bazaar, Eric S. Raymond
Release early. Release often. And listen to your customers.
No? Fine. Look at Volt's post and 'salivate'.

Dude, that shit is 3x better than what the dev's have shown us.
The HUD? Yes. The human is poorly proportioned and the "dretch" (though I doubt it is anything other than a random spider) is impractically high-poly. Not to mention that alien modeling would likely extend the release date by a hefty amount of months, regardless of how many (few) community members joined in.

Humans head will be fixed so it's not so big. The Dretch is the same size as the current one length/height wise. Meshes were combined and a texture was applied works ingame with animations. also  It's not a random spider and it doesn't exceed currently poly limit and you know what the best part is? it's legs move when it walks instead of gliding like the current  dretch. I'm just doing my part, everyone else should be as well.

Nux

Quote from: Volt on August 05, 2011, 06:48:37 PM
Meshes were combined and a texture was applied works ingame with animations. also  It's not a random spider and it doesn't exceed currently poly limit and you know what the best part is? it's legs move when it walks instead of gliding like the current  dretch. I'm just doing my part, everyone else should be as well.

Can I see?