Not Just A Theory

[janev]

This guy has spent a lot more time thinking about the subject than I so I will defer to him. I agree with him.. Don't try to shove a world view on me without any proof beyond I believe it and masses of people before me also believed it.

I also do not think it is right to indoctrinate children into a religion by default. If it was such a great idea wouldn't we all come to that conclusion naturally without being taught? Anyways I will not be taking part in this debate beyond this link. Hopefully someone gets some use out of the video format. Be warned: it is a long rant

Edit: Fixed the link so it gives the whole playlist.

[BeerBastard]

Watched it Janev, good points made in it.

Believing in evolution doesn't make you an atheist. Likewise believing in god doesn't mean you can't believe in evolution.

[beerbitch]

I've been reading Dawkin's new book on this subject and I highly recommend it, especially to those "history-deniers" who don't believe there is evidence for evolution.



http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1416594787?ie=UTF8&tag=thericharddaw-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1416594787

[player1]

Great links, dudes. Got a feeling imma be reading some books by Dawkins, and I know imma watch the rest of that ut00b stuffz. Mahalo, and thank you for your kokua.

brief video

[Jedarus]

Mahalo, and thank you for your kokua.

Believing in evolution doesn't make you an atheist. Likewise believing in god doesn't mean you can't believe in evolution.

i still think that religion and science are incompatible unless you are a very moderate theist. but i guess both things rely on faith a lot

[BeerBastard]

Science doesn't rely on faith Jedarus. It has evidence.

One place they are incompatible is

To be a good scientist you have to be evidence driven.

To be good at a religion you have to have faith.(believe lack of evidence)

Almost polar opposites.

[Demolution]

Faith is not necessarily religion. I know people who have faith that there is a god or creator of some kind, but aren't necessarily religious in the common sense (e.g. they don't attend church, pray, etc).

It's not a bad thing to have a little faith as a scientist too. The human mind can't process all of the facts that are necessary for some decisions.

[beerbitch]

Faith is not necessarily religion. I know people who have faith that there is a god or creator of some kind, but aren't necessarily religious in the common sense (e.g. they don't attend church, pray, etc).

It's not a bad thing to have a little faith as a scientist too. The human mind can't process all of the facts that are necessary for some decisions.

"Belief should scale with evidence"

and

"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

-Carl Sagan


My point being that we should try harder to resist the impulse as humans to substitute a good conspiracy theory or myth in place of our ignorance.

[player1]

Richard Dawkins on the Colbert Report

sry bout teh ad

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"On the sixth day, God created the platypus. And God said: let's see the evolutionists try and figure this one out."

[Demolution]

On which day did God make all of the fossils?

[beerbitch]

On which day did God make all of the fossils?

A few days before a talking snake tricked a woman into eating a fruit that condemned humanity forever after. Lilith wasn't falling for that shit, but poor dumb Eve did.  

[Demolution]

Actually what I posted was a bumper sticker I saw once.
http://bumperstickers.cafepress.com/item/which-day-did-god-make-all-the-fossils/138670959

[Jedarus]

OK, OK, fine, what I didn't mean was that scientists rely purely or mostly on faith whenever they conduct experiments and whatnot. It's just that there's always going to be a certain amount of uncertainty in whatever experiment that's undertaken, so it helps to have a bit of spirit and drive to succeed.
And many important scientific discoveries happened by serendipity, including penicillin