I'm somewhat confused. So many belittle the work of Norf in deference to, uh, Norf's work. I really don't get it. Everyone claims to be a gameplay expert on a game that he played a large part in forming. Really, you should check his early posts. Many of the treasured aspects of tremulous were originally his ideas, or at least heavily influenced by him. Some of the earliest mentions of alien names come from his posts, as well as structure's functions and whatnot. I can't help but wonder if many of the people critical of this work would have been critical of the early work as well, had they been around.
I really don't understand how people can compare it to X server, or tremx. As mods go, tremx is very cool and I really hope it sticks around, though I don't think I can ever have as much fun as with trem when I can die out of nowhere due to an invisible, uh, something. Perhaps people don't remember the history of tremx, I think they should ask Forque why he originally made it, though in truth its come a very long way since its origin.
I hate to be so rude, but X is just, uh, how do I say this politely, retarded. I love dretching. It's one of the main things that attracted me to trem. Wall walking is the best thing ever and frankly, I've been playing FPS's for longer than many you have been alive (yes, I really am old) and very few FPSs over the years have the ability to throw the 3d aspects all to hell by making everything "down". There was a spaceship game years back that it reminds me of built on a doom engine I think, I forget the name of it though. Anyways, back to dretchin on X. Its just not possible to have fun with it for me. I get bounced around to where I can't get to the H base, much less try for a kill, and one shot blaster kills seems silly overall.
People who think that players are retarded don't realize that they are too, as am I
I think people would benefit from studying epistemology, they may find that being incredibly brilliant while simultaneously being fucking stupid is not only possible, but likely in each of us. Perhaps it would temper the belief that being intelligent in something does not mean that they cannot also be completely wrong. I find that the more convinced I am of being right about something, the more likely that my decision is based in part on something that is not reasonable. But thats just me
A trem 1.1 mod for 1.2, AWESOME! I'd love it! Great place for us fogies to play and have fun as we always have. Also a great place for new players to check out the trem we all love and to find that players who have been playing trem for a long time. I don't doubt that I will greatly enjoy 1.2 though. I've already had fun with it in its formative times and its particularly interesting to watch it grow and change.
When I first played tremulous it wasn't the particular details of tyrant HP or basi sounds that kept me around, it was the variety of gameplay possible in a single match added to the particular uniqueness of being able to play as something where everything is down and the 3d world can spin at a frantic rate. Honestly I hope the flying alien mod comes to fruition, if for nothing else to give more variety and possibilities to an already fun game.
Saying Norf can't play is just silly. I've watched more great players than I can think of. Norf is quite good. I don't know if he can dodge though, I usually see him taking out bases. That is what the games about after all.
Someone wants balanced maps? Crank it up. Not to be rude, but I personally have little tolerance for people complaining about something that they then do little about. I ran an all "beta" maps server for quite a few months that did very well for what it was. Had people playing games of 4-12 people for many hours every day. I have also run servers that ran beta maps every night between certain hours like PT and the }MG{ server did for a while. I built and distributed map packs to get people playing non-default maps and to help servers be able to play them (with much help from }MG{
), since people would then have the maps and wouldn't need to download them (which was quite slow at the time). Balance maps don't come from theory and discussion, they come from experienced map makers who then test their maps for balance. Something that can't happen if people won't play them.
I've worked on a lot of large software projects/environments and I can tell you from experience that decisions by true democracy is an outstanding way to create a big pile of shit. Someone has to say yes or no. I think the 1.1 devs did an outstanding job on tremulous, and I am content leaving those decisions with them since they have clearly shown their capabilities. I have found the newer devs to be imminently reasonable and intelligent, and as they are doing much work and have contributed so much to trem that we find so valueable, I am content leaving final decisions to them as well. I have personally seen discussions of complaints and ideas on the forums to know that players are not ignored. But once again, someone has to have the final say. Seems to me that the people who have clearly shown to produce a good game and are doing the work can have that pita
If I had a real complaint, it would be the serverlist screen. I wish the text was smaller and it could have viewable sections for mods, clan servers, etc. I'm not making it though, so take that fwiw
If you have gotten to this point having actually read my wall of text, I would like to encourage you to go out and continue with your life.
Myself included.
I'd like to thank the devs for trem, its fun, its unique, its accessible to anyone who wants to play it. All I can say is great job!
