1.2 Gameplay Changes going off topic :)

[Senor Bobbers]

hey guys I know your upset about the hovel and stuff. The hovel is indeed an essential and nostalgic part of tremulous, and there are others that agree the hovel should stay in and have some sort of useful purpose. T painsaw has heard this cry for help, and has provided his opinion here in his latest podcast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyNtFOXlJpo Be sure to send him YOUR ideas as to how to save the hovel!

[Demolution]

That podcast was going fine until whomever the second speaker was came on.

[Scimitar]

That would be FreaK.

[Plague Bringer]

"HE HAS A FORTY FIVE IN ENGLISH. WHAT ARE YOU, FUCKING MEXICAN?"

[danmal]

There was a year of asking for ideas as to what it could do.
No one came up with anything.

I also don't remember eve seeing anything to this affect.

[UniqPhoeniX]

Well I remember I think norf having asked for hovel ideas a long time ago.

[frazzler]

Well I remember I think norf having asked for hovel ideas a long time ago.

You mean that long-ago-time when nobody with decent opinions used the forums?

Surely if he had put something forward saying 'Hey d00ds, we're bailing on teh hawvel. Giv us sum ideas on hao to fix it?', there would be MANY ideas.

[KamikOzzy]

Well I remember I think norf having asked for hovel ideas a long time ago.

Well, I don't remember that but I woulda said "my idea is to use it as a hovel."

[Demolution]

How descriptive.

[Shadowgandor]

Ahhh, now I remember why I keep coming back to the Tremulous forum. OH sweet internet drama, I love it.

[wolfbr]

a question, the new version will have new effects?

see the explosion

its funny for Lcannon 

http://www.alientrap.org/nexuiz/media
a opensource game,it uses quake3's engine, perhaps some things can be used to improve tremulous 

[KillerWhale]

it uses quake3's engine,

No it doesn't, it uses the DarkPlaces engine.

[KamikOzzy]

Some games have such ugly heads-up displays, damn.

[wolfbr]

it would be interesting if tremulous had more violence,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W37HjHfXJuA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZJlPrl_QCs

[Demolution]

So code it...

[KamikOzzy]

Yeah code it! Go through the process of learning a language and then through the process of becoming familiar with quake specific code and do all that. Otherwise, you aren't free to make any sort of comment about what would be cool. 

[wolfbr]

I like blood, heads flying and some dismemberments,
quake 3 already possesss a good violence and some interesting effect, I believe that this could be used to improve tremulous  

[tuple]

Otherwise, you aren't free to make any sort of comment about what would be cool. 

Comments are welcome.  The people who do code it are also welcome to completely ignore comments and code what they wish, just as anyone would code what they wish.
Incidentally, not being a coder, they are welcome to completely ignore my comments as well, and I am then welcome to complain about how no one will code what I expressly want them to code.

Really, when someone says "then go code it", thats what they mean.  Comment all you want, but if no one who codes wishes to code it, it will never be done.  Best bet is to code it yourself

[Norfenstein]

It's already coded, and is used for structures -- we just don't have gibs for the player models. I would love to have them though and, more importantly, Stannum expressed an interest in them too and started working on it. We'll see how it turns out.

[wolfbr]

it would be interesting if they placed effect of burning in the enemies reached for flamer,grenades and Lcannon 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44ilap8NtrI
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see the trail effect, its good for Mdriver, I believe that it is interesting if to mdriver it had something seemed.

see it:

this trail effect is good to lasgun, i believe 

[Demolution]

Republic Commando ftw. Too bad there was no sequel...

[khalsa]

Fwiw, I miss the mdriver trails we had on mgdev for a bit.

[Lakitu7]

Yeah, I liked the rail MD.

[KamikOzzy]

Otherwise, you aren't free to make any sort of comment about what would be cool. 

Comments are welcome.  The people who do code it are also welcome to completely ignore comments and code what they wish, just as anyone would code what they wish.
Incidentally, not being a coder, they are welcome to completely ignore my comments as well, and I am then welcome to complain about how no one will code what I expressly want them to code.

Really, when someone says "then go code it", thats what they mean.  Comment all you want, but if no one who codes wishes to code it, it will never be done.  Best bet is to code it yourself

If the best bet was to code everything ourselves we wouldn't need you guys, and there wouldn't be a feedback section.

[Winnie the Pooh]

Fwiw, I miss the mdriver trails we had on mgdev for a bit.

Yeah, I liked the rail MD.

Bring it back plz.

[babsFeeds]

Remember when you had the luci, hardly avoided the aliens, reached their base, killed some dretches, some trappers and maybe 1 or 2 eggs and then died -- or OM jumped, killed some eggs and then died? It was then when you discovered that you didn't breathe for the whole run.
You weren't doing anything of major importance to the outcome of the game, but you had massive fun, which made Trem so addictive.

AND you got enough credits in return to make it worthwhile.


The same was true when you kamikaze-d as a goon/mara over a node.  



Removing the reward from killing the eggs/nodes cancels this fun.

OR

There were those two rets blocking a hallway and as a basi you managed to get a hold of one of them and you moved in such a position that the ret you were eating protected you from the other ret. Then, when this ret faced you ...BAM!!!!! you jumped on the other ret and pulled the same stunt. You did this until those two structures were history. You did it thanks to the slowdown in the turning of the grabbed ret.

It was something that made the basi loads of fun and it's missing in 1.2 beta.


Please, focus more on the means to keep the experienced players entertained!

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Advanced basi health = 80hp
Md damage = 40
Unlagged = on

Unless the basi comes out of a hole to grab the human from the behind, he's too much of an easy prey for so many ppl out there; 2 MDs and he's dead => 2 wasted evos.
Increase its health, please, even by 1 unit.

[David]

The turret thing still works, is easer even.

And the whole point of basi is stealth and grab.

[babsFeeds]

True, but what if the map doesn't allow for much stealthiness (is this a word? )? It's too easy to put two consecutive md shots in an alien.

Basilisk
both
slash range reduced 96 -> 64
grab range increased 64 -> 96
jump magnitude increased 270 -> 310
silent footsteps
grabs no longer affects turrets

So they changes this after all, didn't they?
Good!

[David]

The grabbing doesn't work, but the running circles does.  You can even do it to a single turret now.

[A Spork]

I agree with the MD thing.
Like seriously, if there's 2 MD's at the front of the alien base in ATCS, basis cant get out, heck, they can barely go anywhere, cuz the MD's will destroy them...