See that is the kind of non existent mutual respect with many of these players. By the way calling everyone a troll just because you do not agree with them does not make them a troll and is a big cop out. A troll, at least the original definition, is someone that purposely goes out of their way to try to get an emotional response out of insincerity. if you call a Duck a Goose, it is still a Duck.
Or in this case, calling flame-bait a troll. Not that there's much difference.
The fact is, the majority of people do not swear except a select few that feel they have the right to ruin it for everyone else.
I fall to see how it ruins it for anyone.
They are also the kind that hide behind a computer screen. So why the anger?
That's a problem net-wide. At least in games there's the excuse of it being competitive sport, so the "anger" is kinda expected.
You mean people have the right to come into your home and put porn on your TV without your permission? if you want to swear go ahead, by why do you have to force it on others.
I have no right to be in your house at all, but if I'm kind enough to invite you into my house, you have no right to complain about the porn. No one is forcing you to be there.
I think this is the main misunderstanding here: A server is not a public place, it's not your house, it *my* house, or whoever pay's for it's house. In my house it's my rules, there are (or at least have been) some servers with strict no swearing rules, others don't care. If you don't like my servers rules there are plenty of other ones out there, or make your own.
Why do you have a right to stand there and scream in their face, or spout out hate speech. Why do you feel you have the right to do that, while in person it would be extremely unacceptable, and you might even get hurt. There is no answer, for the answer is just more unarticulated swearing. You feel that as players and admins you feel no responsibility the very young people who think that swearing is being a Man, except it really isn't and many real Men do not swear and lead very productive lives. You mean you feel no responsibility for the very young players on this game and what you are teaching them, to a point of becoming perverts yourself as you age. The fact is, many of the kids that swear also do not believe in swearing and get sick of it, but only do it to fit in and are to scared to stand out and get harassed like I am now?
Again, my house my rules no one forces you to be there.
And it's a violent game full of killing, it's not designed to be kid friendly. Tremulous is better than lots of FPS's, and if you are letting your kids unsupervised on the web, a bit of rule language in a game is the least of your problems.
And why put down others that have not put down you. There is a lot of insecurity there obviously, for was not everyone at the same place in learning how to play. I am sure that you were harassed and put down, so now you swear and put down others as revenge. Does that even make any sense. My question is why even have admins at all, if there is no job for them to do. They harass and swear at others just as much, or do the same thing that they might have kicked someone else for.
Admins are there to enforce the rules, they are not there to enforce your moral standards. (Unless the two happen to coincide).
Basically my advice to you would be, if you can't handle the rough end of town, stay away from it. This is probably one of the nicer parts of our metaphorical internet town.
And most players are not like you make them out to be, you seem to be assuming that just because I'm not up in arms I must agree, in reality I just don't care. And FYI, most servers will ban for tirades of directed abuse, it spams up chat aside from anything else.
It is suppose to be against the rules to trade barbs, or to go out of your way to become inflammatory, yet I am sure that it is a rule that will be ignored, or propagated by an admin.
What rules? Every server has it's own rules, and often a hodgepodge of unwritten consensus created as needed.
So I guess no real intelligent conversation can be had of this topic right? I have already talked to other players, and many are tired of it as well, but are afraid of the harassment. The difference is, is I am a Man and am not afraid of doing or asking what is right despite the pettiness.
This subject has been done lots of times before, it's not surprising everyone just assumes you're a troll. I'm going to assume you're just new to the internet.
WHat about the elitists? You mean everyone knew the game right away from start, without having ever played it before. Yes every were noobs at one time, so if you did not like being picked on and harassed over stupid things, why do it to someone innocent to just get the sick circle going.
I was never a noob, most people here weren't. We were all newbs at one point, but there's a very important distinction. (see
http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20060823)
It's not hard to get through your first few games without killing your team by just reading the manual and having run around an empty server for 30 seconds / played other FPS's before.
