SatGNU !bans Poland

[holyknight]

geez people, it's people's opinion about stuff they believe... you shouldn't go hyper or yell or attack one another because of that...
so if I put a nazi symbol on my sig, you'll all go "OMG NAZI LOVER!"?
wait... that was a bad example...

[rapha]

@jhaa: This is not meant to rip open the IRC discussion again, I just wanna point something out to David.

@David: All of SatGNU is _not_ a discriminating bunch of racists. You saw how I react if I smell something like this, and if I smelled more of it I would remove my admin rights, delete the stats and never play there again either, which I don't. So please don't project one or two posts of one or two persons on an entire community.

[n00b pl0x]

you should just ban the entire world because noobs live everywhere and then unban all the pros ips because you still want the pros to play there

[Solo]

Well Mr."I am sooo good at English", seems you don't understand your own language at all.

When are you going to take a hint?
It just makes a fool out of you if you insult the server-owners and then whine when they deny you the privilege of using theirs services for wich you did not even pay.

So get a clue and take a hike you freeloading leech.

Did i ever say i was "Sooooo good at english"? No. Get your facts right.
Did i ever whine when i was deny'd the privilege of using any server? No. Get your facts right.

This is a freeware game, a mod and an out-of-date piece of software.. why would i pay for it? It also strikes me that you think your better than others because you pay for a server.

I do understand my language, alot more than some of the people i've seen and try'd to help on here.

Caveman i have seen a picture of you, i know this isn't the time nor the place but, what the hell are you doing playing an out of date game, paying for a server and exploiting admin powers at your age? No offence intended ofcourse, just wondering.

[Solo]

By the way caveman, you realy are showing maturity with the "Imature leech" crap aren't you?
You call me immature yet your the one that just posted an insult to someone that lives miles away over the forum of a freeware game... now SERIOUSLY that is what i would expect from a 10 year old, but you aren't 10 are you?

Since you like to resurrect the old Aliens wrath' banning thing (also a very immature thing to do) i think its a good time to tell you that i never planned on appologising to you or napkin or anyone, i think that when napkin kicked splitter for "Camping" (splitter was building our base) that it was wrong, abusive, immature, pathetic and lowly, and i'm as good as banned because i wouldn't dream of playing on a server with admins that think they rule the world because they pay for a server.

This is my opinion, and my opinion is something that nobody can change, not even a middle aged, immature, server paying, insultive *quote* egoistic and bat-weilding old lowlife.

[vcxzet]

By the way caveman, you realy are showing maturity with the "Imature leech" crap aren't you?
You call me immature yet your the one that just posted an insult to someone that lives miles away over the forum of a freeware game... now SERIOUSLY that is what i would expect from a 10 year old, but you aren't 10 are you?

Since you like to resurrect the old Aliens wrath' banning thing (also a very immature thing to do) i think its a good time to tell you that i never planned on appologising to you or napkin or anyone, i think that when napkin kicked splitter for "Camping" (splitter was building our base) that it was wrong, abusive, immature, pathetic and lowly.

This is my opinion, and my opinion is something that nobody can change, not even a middle aged, immature, server paying, insultive *quote* egoistic and bat-weilding old lowlife.

aww

[Solo]

Before i get any backchat about my last 2 posts i'd like to take the time out to appoligise to anyone other than caveman that has to read this, i know its slightly immature of me to act this way but someone has to teach this guy a lesson before he gets lost in the clouds of his own young at heart ways.

Edit: too late lol

[Solo]

Putting the thread back on topic, banning/redirecting players because of the location they were born at is racism, whether you like it not its the truth, just thank yourself tremulous doesn't have rules of engagement that disallow this.

[SLAVE|Mietz]

FISH!

[p0m]

Putting the thread back on topic, banning/redirecting players because of the location they were born at is racism, whether you like it not its the truth, just thank yourself tremulous doesn't have rules of engagement that disallow this.

Banning Poland is a move that I support, purely because of the attitude taken by 90% of the polish trem community towards servers and players in countries other than theirs. Of course, this is not a representation of every player in Poland; and maci, Lava and the rest of the Satgnu team have obviously realised this and offered for those players who aren't problems the ability to still play there.

Why you can't understand and continually try to argue a baseless point is obvious, as your once well tended post under someone elses' bridge out there is now gaining cobwebs and other detrius from neglect.

Now, shut up and game on.

Edit: And as a sidenote... FISH.

[SLAVE|Mietz]

[jhaa]

meow

[Lava Croft]

This is a freeware game, a mod and an out-of-date piece of software..

That was the last thing you said I have listened to. Please go back to whatever retarded community you came from, and take your friends with you.

On the racism and swastika moaning, not liking Poland and Polish people is not racism and that blue swastika has nothing to do with Germany, it's an old symbol of the Finnish Air Force. The fact that rapha needs to be a old-fashionned, politically-correct German whiner about it is his problem, not ours. How can jhaa or anyone else help it some Germans still cannot face their history.

[IIthaI]

This is a freeware game, a mod and an out-of-date piece of software..

That was the last thing you said I have listened to. Please go back to whatever retarded community you came from, and take your friends with you.

On the racism and swastika moaning, not liking Poland and Polish people is not racism and that blue swastika has nothing to do with Germany, it's an old symbol of the Finnish Air Force. The fact that rapha needs to be a old-fashionned, politically-correct German whiner about it is his problem, not ours. How can jhaa or anyone else help it some Germans still cannot face their history.

This pretty much is quoted for the truth.

Case closed  D:

[p0m]

[IIthaI]

A lot of it.

[Solo]

Well p0m i understand it now, but if you had just said that and left out the shut up part i would have respected it.

Still banning the entire country is racist, this IS what you said you have done but i see now that you didn't mean it that way...

[SLAVE|Mietz]

FISH?

[IIthaI]

I want ip addresses that have your "race" and bloodline in it, so we would be able to ban races from the internets!

What an excellent idea, I think I should run for a politician!

Don't you think? I need propaganda posters asap.

[Vector_Matt]

Still banning the entire country is racist...

It would be if he were banning them for the sake of banning them.

[Solo]

WTF is going on here oO.
What discrimination ?
what swatiska?..
ah i remember .. saw it on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Air_Force

Discrimination can be found in the dictionary.
A swastika is the sign of the nazis, some inconsiderate idiot put a swastika  in there sig while talking about racism thinking it would be funny, if you dont know what a nazi is god help you.. i reolise that the swastika isn't real but it still causes offence..

[Solo]

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40732000/jpg/_40732471_swastika_203.jpg&imgrefurl=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4183467.stm&h=152&w=203&sz=10&hl=en&start=14&tbnid=nQbOxoAyjURdtM:&tbnh=79&tbnw=105&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dswastika%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG
some stuff about swastikas/nazis..

[SLAVE|Mietz]

The word is derived from the Sanskrit "svastika" and means "good to be". In Indo-European culture it was a mark made on people or objects to give them good luck.

It has been around for thousands of years, particularly as a Hindu symbol in the holy texts, to mean luck, Brahma or samsara (rebirth).

thats from your link.

And just take the FISH!

[maci]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

Yeah .

A swastika is the sign of the nazis,

sure

the nazis invented it about 3000 years ago while they supressed the hindus.

FISH!

[jhaa]

FISH!

[rapha]

@Lava: I think we've discussed this enough now, about why I get upset with
things that have a certain meaning to me (the human mind is better at
recognizing _similar_ forms than at recognizing _exact_ form matches).
Please do accept though that it is my right to have a retarded (or rather,
old-fashioned and dogmatic) view/opinion as much as it is yours or anyone
elses. The difference is that I don't use my knowledge of what might upset
others to provoke making them upset without a _darn_ good reason.

Now, even I agree with the choice of Lava and maci to ban Poland.
Statistically seen, the Polish players _are_ being arrogant assholes more often
than players from any other country. Shouldn't let them hide behind the "but
we're the victims! You're discriminating us!"-wall. Banning them because of
their attitude is hardly any discrimination.

(But drawing the discussion towards even joking about racism, 3rd reich stuff and so on might be easily interpreted as discrimination. Actually jhaa told me
he did it with full intent. That's not right; it just helps jhaa have some fun on
the cost of others. It doesn't help this discussion).

That would be all.

EDIT: If you take a look at the link Solo posted, there's also an image of a newspaper. One of the headlines reads "Does This Offend You?". That's exactly my point: it doesn't only matter where a sign originated from (what its original meaning was) but also what other meanings it was given or acquainted during history and _what feelings it invokes in people_!

FISH!!!

[SLAVE|Mietz]

WAT? Wer bist du denn?

[Eeeew Spiders]

lol,

what the potato am I doing here, on a forum with
- people with swastika in their signature
- jokes about jews
- expressing a great dislike of a nation and banning that nation,  and then acting suprised that this stires a controversy
- forum campers, that take any opportunity to start flames on posts of particular or random people
- posters that cant take a hint and don't know when a topic is exhausted
- discriminating remarks, retarded remarks, arrogance, ignorance

This isn't about playing a game anymore, right? Why don't you guys go selfendulge yourself on your own forums, your own wikis, your own servers.

I gotta sign off, i have no business here.
ciao bello, genkidene, poka, goeden dag

[SLAVE|Mietz]

lol,

what the potato am I doing here, on a forum with
- people with swastika in their signature
- jokes about jews
- expressing a great dislike of a nation and banning that nation,  and then acting suprised that this stires a controversy
- forum campers, that take any opportunity to start flames on posts of particular or random people
- posters that cant take a hint and don't know when a topic is exhausted
- discriminating remarks, retarded remarks, arrogance, ignorance

This isn't about playing a game anymore, right? Why don't you guys go selfendulge yourself on your own forums, your own wikis, your own servers.

I gotta sign off, i have no business here.
ciao bello, genkidene, poka, goeden dag

omg finally!

[Solo]

I want ip addresses that have your "race" and bloodline in it, so we would be able to ban races from the internets!

What an excellent idea, I think I should run for a politician!

Don't you think? I need propaganda posters asap.

If your not being surcastic, i hope you get hit by a bus.