Author Topic: European Exhibition Tournament (Read 34301 times)

Puzzola · « **Reply #30 on:** July 03, 2007, 02:15:00 pm »

No camp ? No feed ? No problem ? Not pro-alien mod ?

Lead vs cy

CY vs Lead

Window room

Outpost atcs

Hey tyrants, at Stage 3, don't forget to camp near human's base to block them and earn lots of evos with feed and repeater bonus, and never really attack before, better way to fuck humans with a final rush.

More generaly, never attack, you just have to wait them far of their base, near repeater, and get S3 before they're S2.

tv · « **Reply #31 on:** July 03, 2007, 02:41:59 pm »

Yet, somehow, CY won the human games.

Getting killed isn't feed Puzzola, especially during a clan war when both teams are organized.

Plague Bringer · « **Reply #32 on:** July 03, 2007, 02:45:15 pm »

Getting killed over and over when you know what you're running into is feeding.

Those damned pages aren't loading, what's on them?

Are you saying an organised team can't feed no matter what they do?

I'm really starting to think you're a noob at understanding this game, tv.

Puzzola · « **Reply #33 on:** July 03, 2007, 02:52:43 pm »

Quote from: "Plague Bringer"

Getting killed over and over when you know what you're running into is feeding.

Those damned pages aren't loading, what's on them?

Some videos (.avi) of "pro"mod. I can upload on googlevideo if you want.

Quote from: "Plague Bringer"

I'm really starting to think you're a noob at understanding this game, tv.

<3

Plague Bringer · « **Reply #34 on:** July 03, 2007, 03:04:08 pm »

Ah, that'd be nice. Make 'em public. =P =D

Puzzola · « **Reply #35 on:** July 03, 2007, 03:48:58 pm »

Uploaded, but really bad quality:

http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=7055892518494243829

http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=5320161034878537486

http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-2097115591004036640

http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-5536725318630679106

(and sorry for the music

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AppleJuice · « **Reply #36 on:** July 03, 2007, 04:02:05 pm »

From my experience, humans have an advantage over dretches '1 on 1.' Yes, good dretches won't approach you from long distances, but even so, it's still possible to dodge dretches in close quarters. In fact, during all the 1v1 practice sessions I've held with people, humans almost always win, because the human never lets the alien get a goon (or if so, one goon maximum). Humans aren't exactly screwed after one headbite - it takes two to kill a human. Just don't let the dretch bite you twice. Same for the dretches - don't let a human rifle you 5 times.

I can understand camping if the opposing team has 2-3 dragoons, but camping against dretches is unheard of in high level games. Humans are far from being THAT base dependent.

About this tournament: it is pretty silly to dub this the 'promod.' From what I saw of the one video I watched, it looked like the aliens were camping the domination point, instead of the human base entrances. Hence, it does not seem to prevent camping as claimed - just base camping. Call this the domination tournament or something.

Plague Bringer · « **Reply #37 on:** July 03, 2007, 04:13:28 pm »

tv, did you honestly think that a stageup and evos every six minutes would make people leave that repeater behind and not camp?

Quote

Maybe you should play another game.

tv · « **Reply #38 on:** July 03, 2007, 04:55:35 pm »

It's not that I don't understand, Plague Bringer, I can see how camping can make you win a game. I just think it shouldn't. Ever.

[A] · « **Reply #39 on:** July 03, 2007, 05:32:00 pm »

Quote from: "Puzzola"

No camp ? No feed ? No problem ? Not pro-alien mod ?

Lead vs cy

CY vs Lead

Window room

Outpost atcs

Hey tyrants, at Stage 3, don't forget to camp near human's base to block them and earn lots of evos with feed and repeater bonus, and never really attack before, better way to fuck humans with a final rush.

More generaly, never attack, you just have to wait them far of their base, near repeater, and get S3 before they're S2.

Oh dear, you re so nice and kind to show some videos to people, but maybe you forgot some little things ...

1 - Cy v lead on atcs ------- > tadaaaa CY human won the game but you dident said of showed that

2 - CY alien v lead human ----> where is the prob ? i can show you many other game without the repeater and the game look like similar and ... maybe i have someone vs you.

3 - Window room. -------> We have already planed to fixe that problem and you know it, i dont understand why you show that.

4 - Adv outpost --------> Well and ? If the humans let you build it, it's all for you, i dont see any problem, your team look like more stronger and you will win. GG to you.

_Equilibrium_ · « **Reply #40 on:** July 03, 2007, 05:43:58 pm »

Quote from: "jaywor"

Quote from: "A_Total_noob"
Noes...

camping is a integral part of the game. It should not be prevented under any circumanstances.

Any anti-camp = phail.

Good idea for the tournament, but if there is one thing you do, remove the 'anti-camp'.

Have you ever played a clan war? I'm almost sure that you didn't. Camping isn't a part of the game. If both teams were caming the game would make no sense.

if the aliens get a few goons early game, the humans are stupid to try and take them on with rifles. wait in base for a few mins maybe rifling a dretch or two (maybe even a goon if you chase). after you get creds for shotguns, then try leaving the base. camping may be needed, but not for the entire game of course.

Ezra · « **Reply #41 on:** July 03, 2007, 07:34:03 pm »

[F]lame 4 | =V= 0

Very fast game and agressiv.

Control Point was useless coz no equip camp :]

Nux · « **Reply #42 on:** July 03, 2007, 07:49:23 pm »

I had completely forgotten about the control point in the first game. Suddenly I'm startled by this floating repeater of doom.. then I remembered ^^.

I have this problem staying still you see. >.> Not sure what this 'camping' thing is. =)

NiTRoX · « **Reply #43 on:** July 03, 2007, 07:50:17 pm »

OK , I want to know what this fucker has against me.

I was enjoying a scrim =V= vs [F]lame asking questions such as what are the nationalities of the clan etc etc. But then... I got banned by this dude ( Mercury[F]lame )

I got banned either for no reason or for asking what is the difference from Dasprid's ProMod from normal servers.

Also, this dude did it to me again on the [F]lame server apparently for having more kills then he did (in less time). For the same reason listed here.

What I don't know is how he knew it was me since the first time he banned me I was using a different name. (Stalker?)

So I ask again..who is this abusing fucker and what does he want?

IJsje · « **Reply #44 on:** July 03, 2007, 08:05:21 pm »

Quote from: "NiTRoX"

OK , I want to know what this fucker has against me.

!ban

seems to work

Puma · « **Reply #45 on:** July 03, 2007, 08:13:21 pm »

IJsje · « **Reply #46 on:** July 03, 2007, 08:14:01 pm »

All of a sudden I feel rather bad about myself for posting that in this thread. Could someone please move this, my above and nitrox's post to a separate thread so we can keep this one clean and only about ETL.

Lava Croft · « **Reply #47 on:** July 03, 2007, 08:22:54 pm »

Nitrox, please try to stay on topic here. I'll not remind you of how most forum participants feel about people posting whiney 'zomg i gots banned' things.

ShadowNinjaDudeMan · « **Reply #48 on:** July 03, 2007, 08:38:46 pm »

Quote from: "Lava Croft"

Nitrox, please try to stay on topic here. I'll not remind you of how most forum participants feel about people posting whiney 'zomg i gots banned' things.

I love it when people do it.

I h8 when key-happy admins get jealous.

NiTRoX · « **Reply #49 on:** July 03, 2007, 09:40:28 pm »

Quote from: "Mercury from the [F

lame forum"]Hmm, was about to permaban you from these forums, but then I thought: "Hey, this boy is so raged, we need to help him!". So, if you can post pictures that depict you helping little kittens, you can stay. Hope that is some incentive to do something good for once.

Since he wasn't mature enough to admit hes fucktardness, my answer to you, Lava, is a big NO.

DHRUVINATOR · « **Reply #50 on:** July 03, 2007, 10:49:04 pm »

Wasn't Spikers aka {S} put down for this:P.
I heard nothing (sum1 telling me personally so i dont think my clanned was infromed).
Sorry for confusion or our mistake.

tv · « **Reply #51 on:** July 03, 2007, 10:59:31 pm »

What are you talking about ? This is just a 4 teams exhibition tournament. The real tournament will come later.

Lava Croft · « **Reply #52 on:** July 03, 2007, 11:11:19 pm »

Lava_Croft> you cannot combat a certain strategy
Lava_Croft> so you just eliminate the possibility to apply that strategy
CY`TV> exactly Lava_Croft

Only for real Pro's!

tv · « **Reply #53 on:** July 03, 2007, 11:32:48 pm »

<CY`TV> Lava_Croft: what if the humans just NEVER come out, you just wait 'til TL ?
<Lava_Croft> CY`TV, yes

Only for people who'd like to play Tremulous.

Lava Croft · « **Reply #54 on:** July 03, 2007, 11:39:50 pm »

You mean people who like to play Tremulous without all the freedom that real Tremulous gameplay gives you.
People who want to stop you from using the oldest FPS strategy in the book.

tv · « **Reply #55 on:** July 03, 2007, 11:50:16 pm »

Those are the only people I want playing the tournament.

If camping is the real trem strategy for some of you out here, then fine, I'll split the gameplay in two !

Lava Croft · « **Reply #56 on:** July 03, 2007, 11:55:17 pm »

Those are the people you call Pro's ?

tuple · « **Reply #57 on:** July 04, 2007, 01:20:15 am »

Quote from: "tv"

It's not that I don't understand, Plague Bringer, I can see how camping can make you win a game. I just think it shouldn't. Ever.

Might I suggest WAP. No camping there. In actual tremulous it can be a legitimate strategy, your protestations notwithstanding. Perhaps if you focused more on Tremulous strategy and less on twitch play you would not find it so boring?

Nux · « **Reply #58 on:** July 04, 2007, 01:59:19 am »

I never personally had a problem with camping. It was just a tactic I would make my challenge to overcome. I must admit, though, that without camping the game is certainly alot more energetic.Sometimes restrictions can encourage creativity- When people know they can't rely on camping, they start making clever group tactics and shifting area control.

So far, these Promod games have been either exactly the same as the usual games except I'm seeing alot more teamplay. Players rely on each other rather than turrets. This mod might not be well recieved by those have have become so heavily dependant on camping, but to those who don't mind adapting or who never camped in the first place, this mod makes a welcome change to the gameplay.

As for the name- 'Promod' -It's just a name. I don't see much reason to be offended by it. The title of most things only serves to encourage and intrigue people into using it.

Plague Bringer · « **Reply #59 on:** July 04, 2007, 02:07:07 am »

There's a lot of reason for people to be offended by a lot of things surrounding "pro" mod.

Camping as a "girly" way of playing.
"Pro" mod, when lots of leet players use camping as a legit tactic when the need arises.

Some more things.

Oh, and how do you expect you're going to get to the control point with a Tyrant outside your base FORCING you to camp?

The main arguments recently have been about camping, but some people just can't understand that sometimes people have to make the decision to either feed or camp. I choose to camp.

Risujin's Domination mod may serve as an alternative for "pro"mod. It encourages teamwork, but doesn't condemn the weaker team to an immediate loss if they can't break through the aline offense.

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