Do noob builders BOTHER you?

[Revan]

i dont mind it... but sometimes it drives my crazy when i see trappers on the ground and boosters in the enemy baes... just me tho... xD

+1 for the floor trappers -- or the ones on the wall above the door

a booster in the enemy base, doesn't sound bad if they cant get it (or are too interested in random dumbness)

[Owl]

Ah, team-killing unresponsive and arrogant builders. It might seem wrong, but it feels so right.

[Revan]

Ah, team-killing unresponsive and arrogant builders. It might seem wrong, but it feels so right.

ah.. yes, (this isn't the same thing but is related) If I see an idiot psawing the base (when I am hummie) I tk him FAST.
Needless to say I think the occasional tk does have its uses

[Samurai.mac]

Now here's a good one for you: Humans building in the center base on ATCS. It may seem like an invincible fortress, but it reality it's just a death trap waiting to happen. All the vital structures get piled in one side; reactor at the back, armoury and medistation to one side, spawns in front of the reactor. Then there's a huge pile of turrets in front doing nothing but blocking access into and out of the base.
The aliens begin relocating eggs and a booster onto the top of the base, and place defenses around the entrance. There's now no need for the Aliens to defend at all, since the humans can't leave their base, so the remaining build points go to acid tubes and trappers around the entrance. I've even seen a hive used to attack anyone who tried to flee back inside, killing them while they healed.
The humans can't attack, so aliens (especially dretches, who hang onto the wall above the entrance) pick off anyone caught in the barricade of defenses and work their way up to Stage 3, at which point tyrants rush into the base, take down as many turrets as they can, respawn above, evolve and jump in again. Eventually the explosions from the first few turrets destroy the ones behind, leaving the base completely open to attack.
It is possible, although very difficult, to combine grenades and lucifer cannon splash damage to destroy some of the alien structures, but it requires practically the whole team to do this constantly for several minutes, during which time large aliens, or aliens with poison jump on them and prevent them from refilling their weapons.

And the worst thing? This all starts when someone says, "hey guys, I'm moving everything to the middle base because it's closer to the aliens!"

[jr2]

Heh.. I've seen a human base on top of the center bunker in ATCS work before... apparently there is a place to put the RC where it is only snipeable from a few locations, which can then be guarded.  I think it's in the corner of the top...hmm.

[Valour250]

noob builders do bother me if its a serious game but all of us were noob builders sometimes, i remember when i 1st built it didnt really help the other guy going ur a fucken noob stop building..... i think tolerence is due as well as advice and encouragement...

if they dont listen 2 u then u can fucken rage and get there gay areses kicked!!!!

[blood2.0]

the worst is deisnated builders
Me: why is this armory here? i cant back into my base!
sell lcannon buy akit this building is being maintained by A TOSTER. 
Me:Hey toaster decon this armory.
Me:now!
Me:now
Me:now
Me:now
Flooding wait 4 seconds before speeking again.
/callvote denybuild A TOASTER!!!
yes 5 no 1
vote passed
armory deconstructed by me
telinode built by kangaroo
there are no build points remaining
Me: can i get an armory
Me: anyone?
Me:armory!!!!!!!!!!
Me:armory
Me:armory
Me:armory

this structure is being maintained by a kangaroo
this structure is being maintained by a kangaroo
this structure is being maintained by a kangaroo
this structure is being maintained by a kangaroo
this structure is being maintained by a kangaroo
this structure is being maintained by a kangaroo
/callvote denybuildbuild kangaroo
you have already called the max number of votes 1
kangaroo blasted by teammait me
telinode deconstucted by Me
armory being built by me
armory deconstructed by kangaroo
Me: kick this guy he keeps deconing armory
telinode built by kangaroo
Me:OMG!!!!!!!!!!
kangaroo was blasted by teammate Me
armory being built by Me
finally buy psaw
armory deconstructed by kangaroo
kangaroo was sawed by teammate Me
kangaroo was sawed by teammate Me
YOU HAVE BEEN BANNED FOR TKING

[Sakura-chan/Tsunade]

(*sign* Humans building on top of bunker on atcs=yay death awaits^^
Its funny but one of the builders building on top there said
:This is the best  base, it can hold of rants he also said we won before.
Its sad because they won against noobs but me and a player called name destroyed their base in like 6 min
1st and 4 min building  base on top of atcs bunker and another 2 min more BASE DEAD).

 I rly don't like noob builders even if its not a serious game :p  instead i'm always the builder for the team(i usually say "pls don't build i build only pls).
I like being kind to noob builders but when there is 20 over players and 5 or 6 noob builders i tend to uhh well TK them,^,^ and i usually never got kicked(i either TK them and let my other teammates Teambled them when they miss ^^, so it not all my FAULT but theirs ^,^).
(Tip:  if you hate noob builders build your own base,Like me ^^).

Designating building should be off because,  lets say the designator designate the armory in FRONT of ALEIN base and teammembers can't decon it because the noob desiginator disconnected, etc etc.

I don't like bases like this :alien base :
       
 
Human base:
       
 

[Despairation]

Designate is decided whether to be on or off by the server owner.

[Taiyo.uk]

Tell them politely, explain why -> tell them rudely -> !denybuild -> !kick -> !ban

[Glunnator]

Tell them politely, explain why -> tell them rudely -> !denybuild -> !kick -> !ban

This Sir speaks the truth...alot

When noobs don't listen, raise your voice a notch.
When newbs don't listen, they'll know when to stop.
Which is usually as soon as you raise to the first notch.
If not before.

P.S: Hai Taiyo! =D

[MeatWad]

As has been said, new builders don't bother me. Heck, i'm still learning. It's when they do stupid stuff and don't listen to you politely trying to correct them that bothers me.

Before I started building on trem, I read through the forums and the manual and got as much information as I could, then I created a local server and experimented with different setups on ATCS to see what worked and what didn't. I don't expect new builders to do all this, but you would think they would at least read the manual and some advice on the forums, or at the VERY least listen to someone who's been playing a while.

Now that being said, what bothers me just as much are people that *THINK* they know everything coming on and start rearranging stuff while calling *ME* a noob.

I build mostly for aliens and after I build my base I like to hang out for a while and watch how certain placements work (or don't work). Recently I had a guy come on after I had built my base and he started deconning stuff and ridiculing some of my placements saying stuff like "that trapper doesn't work there, that's a stupid place for it", etc. When the particular trapper he was talking about was one that, while easily destroyed, most humans miss and i've watched them get stuck in it again and again while desperately trying to figure out where the heck the trappers is. He then proceeded to use the BP from that deconned trapper to build an acid tube on the ceiling, and later built a hive on the ceiling that was easily luci'd.

Sometimes builders might disagree on what's best... i think that's normal. However it really bothers me when one person decides that the other is just a noob who doesn't know anything because they don't agree with how they place things.

Voting doesn't really work well either to be honest. Case in point, he called a vote to revoke my designation (after which he deconned my trapper to build the ceiling tube), which passed. An admin watching all this called a vote to revoke the other builder's designation, which passed. Then the admin said "wow... you guys will vote yes on everything", and called a vote to revoke unnamed player's designation (who wasn't even building) which... surprise surprise... passed.

[Despairation]

I had this one guy who just couldn't resist building in the middle of atcs. No matter what team he was on, he built in the middle.

At the beginning, when he was s1 aliens, he put an egg on either side of the bunker, and then acid tubes at the entrance. At s2, he moved them to the ceiling. Humans won.

Then he was humans. He waited till s2, then built a repeater in the bunker and put turrets at the front of the side he put the repeater on. Then deconned the reactor and put it right next to the repeater. While the reactor was down, aliens won. After that Dracone kicked him (this was at AA server).

[Revan]

The other day for the first time I saw a floor trapper work!

It was on ATCS and I came out of the tunnel to kill a Bsuit that was in our base only to see he couldn't move, all the aliens attacked him and there was the trapper!

[Sakura-chan/Tsunade]

You know floor trppers always work if you have a good spot  to place them, otherwise its useless

[pharo212]

Worst noob base ever:
                                                     



 

 
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[Shadowgandor]

You could've explained it as well instead of using the emoticons >.>

[Harlequin]

Nowai!

1- as long as they build they can not feed 
2- badly placed turrets are still better, than no turrets at all
3- it is funny to play with silly bases

[TheLuciferSausage]

Somebody should create a !readmanual <noobname|slot> <manualsection> that closed Tremulous and opened the manual.

[N.U.K.E.]

+1.

[New Guy]

I´m a noob builder.... p_p
Started yesterday with learning it
anyways...

( of course limited points )
Placed some (imho) fancy turrets close to base in triangle formations and suddenly a guy appears and decons my turrets one by one and places them in a line at the entrance ( yeah jumping time )
I did nothing but watching him, because i thought "Hey... He has to be experienced with it when he knows how to decon and he is no UnnamedPlayer! Perhaps he will teach me something!!!*dragoon appears jumps over turrets and pounces me and kills rc afterwards*" ...

[Lava Croft]

Builders who think they know how to build because they have been playing for 2 weeks, and therefore shout at you about how you are building a noob base are by far the worst.

[Tucker!]

Builders who think they know how to build because they have been playing for 2 weeks, and therefore shout at you about how you are building a noob base are by far the worst.

'specially if they decon what you're in the process of building, then you wait for the build timer to go down. then you decon what they built, and they buy a shotty and tk the crap out of you.

[Lava Croft]

Builders who think they know how to build because they have been playing for 2 weeks, and therefore shout at you about how you are building a noob base are by far the worst.

'specially if they decon what you're in the process of building, then you wait for the build timer to go down. then you decon what they built, and they buy a shotty and tk the crap out of you.

People fucking with my build timer vex me greatly.

[Bajsefar]

People fucking with my armory walls vex me greatly.

Of course, the use of them is controversial to say the least.

But I love making ATCS bases which are not cramped in that damn corner, but still blocks alien view into the base. (of course, the reac/vital buildings part has sufficient protection to withstand some jumpers, not to mention that it is hard to jump.

I manage to somewhat extend the humans dominion over the room and make movement for aliens when attacking harder, as well as less team bleeding/blocking in and around the base better.

It's not really better for defending, but it is a lot less claustrophobical and cramped, and is somewhat better for actually pushing away the weaker alien attacks, instead of just scaring them from attacking with an intimidating wall of turrets, instead of just having them wait around the corner for easy food.

And one more thing: Adv. dragoons do not seem to be interested in sniping or destroying their (in their vision) useless armoury wall bloking their line of fire to the reactor, they instead focus fire on the non-vital turrets designed for keeping aliens further away from the base. (i usually make several "stages" of defense that the aliens needs to go through, giving me more time to rebuild turrets inside in case of hard rushes, i still try to make all the 'barricades' in line of fire to major alien attack routes, though, like the lower walkway leading up to the human base in ATCS.

So far, it has been working rather good. The base is easy to keep defended even though you loose turrets due to the closed nature of the base, bottlenecks are fine for killing off bigger aliens, or in the very least, scaring them away.

Also, the more 'calm' and screened off reactor 'room' (i keep it walled off with one, line of sight- blocking armoury.) makes it easier for the humans currently reloading/ healing up to notice the reactor jumping maras that occasionaly occur.

I always stay around to adapt/nurture/repair my base, since there is no 'ultimate base'. For emergencies, i wall into the corner, like mainstream atcs bases, but only when i have no choice.

[Sakura-chan/Tsunade]

( For more players a super defensive base is the key in the game..
For little players a super ANTI-reactor jump base is needed.. )

A noob builder is a builder who dosen't chat with his/her team.. Most happen when they don't comunicate together.

 Teamwork is better then any thing   

[Tremulant]

I was told off for ruining an invincible human base the other day, by building turrets near the reactor and unblocking the doorways Well, the only response is to switch teams and pwn the noob, nothing better than total humiliating defeat for putting an over confident builder in his place.

That said, i remember being a noob builder, to be honest i'm not terribly good even now.

[Sakura-chan/Tsunade]

I got 2 of the best building techniques in atcs building.... however 1 of the technique needs placing the rc in a different place..

[Despairation]

Screenshots, please?

[Sakura-chan/Tsunade]

Screenshots, please?

I'l try to do the screenshot next week