Planned Development Games

[mooseberry]

Try playing dretch versus a couple lucifer cannons with a mass-driver for backup.

Hmm? Was this ever supposed to be fair?

[Norfenstein]

Game in 30 minutes (20:00 UTC) on the European server.

[amz181]

Game in 30 minutes (20:00 UTC) on the European server.

hehe im still hoping theres a game going on :p i always manage to miss the time :p .

[Norfenstein]

25 minutes from now on the US server (dev.tremulous.net)

[Lakitu7]

When you play today, please also check out and give feedback on third person spectating.

[Norfenstein]

Game in 30 minutes from now (20:00 UTC, 15:00 EST) on Euro Dev (edev.mercenariesguild.net).

The big change for today is that staging down has been removed. It was pretty unpopular, and the thorough testing we did showed it didn't have the benefits I suspected it might, at least not to any significant degree.

Two minor changes as well (both suggested by Cadynum):

• Repeaters' power zones can now overlap the reactor's zone (but still not other repeaters'). So you don't have to overextend as much to build forward.
  
• Ckit repairing auto-fires - you no longer have to hold down secondary attack.

[Matt2k10]

Game in 30 minutes from now (20:00 UTC, 15:00 EST) on Euro Dev (edev.mercenariesguild.net).

The big change for today is that staging down has been removed. It was pretty unpopular, and the thorough testing we did showed it didn't have the benefits I suspected it might, at least not to any significant degree.

Two minor changes as well (both suggested by Cadynum):

• Repeaters' power zones can now overlap the reactor's zone (but still not other repeaters'). So you don't have to overextend as much to build forward.
  
• Ckit repairing auto-fires - you no longer have to hold down secondary attack.

I wasn't able to play today, but I am definitely liking all these changes. Also auto-firing ckit is a godsend, thank you so much

[Nux]

Well many thought it was bugged because they were trying to hold it which would have the toggle switching constantly. Isn't there a way for a tap to register as a toggle but a hold to register as.. a hold?

[kevlarman]

Well many thought it was bugged because they were trying to hold it which would have the toggle switching constantly. Isn't there a way for a tap to register as a toggle but a hold to register as.. a hold?

there is no toggle, it's just on.

[Seffylight]

there is no toggle, it's just on.

As in it repairs whenever you're near something that needs repairing automatically?

[kevlarman]

there is no toggle, it's just on.

As in it repairs whenever you're near something that needs repairing automatically?

you still have to point it injured buildings

[Nux]

Alright. Well for whatever reason, secondary fire would make the repair fail.

[kevlarman]

Alright. Well for whatever reason, secondary fire would make the repair fail.

no it wouldn't.

[Cadynum]

The big change for today is that staging down has been removed. It was pretty unpopular, and the thorough testing we did showed it didn't have the benefits I suspected it might, at least not to any significant degree.

Very nice, the games were much more enjoyable now!

[Nux]

no it wouldn't.

So is it an intentional feature?

I'm not sure why you would want to prevent the ckit from repairing while you have it out.

Or do you mean that it doesn't stop the ckit repairing? If so you might want to check for yourself.

[Death On Ice]

What I gather from kevlarman's messages is:
When you have a construction kit, simply point it at buildings and they will repair.

[Nux]

What I gather from kevlarman's messages is:
When you have a construction kit, simply point it at buildings and they will repair.

Whereas holding the right mouse button will stop it from repairing.

Understand that I know what he's talking about; I was there, using this feature last saturday.

[Roanoke]

Why not allow repairing/deconning while the build timer ticks down?

[David]

Because its a major balance change?

[Roanoke]

How so?

[David]

It makes a single human builder a lot more powerful, able to effectively do the job of two builders under the right circumstances, such as when aliens are attacking.
It would make it a lot harder for aliens to break the humans defences, as the humans would be able to rebuild and repair a lot quicker.

[Roanoke]

I fail to see how one builder can do the job of several, as the time it takes to get 3 rets up doesn't change. It would also help during rapid decon of something.

[Seffylight]

If you can't see how being able to both build and repair (or build and decon) at the same time wouldn't significantly change the current balance of the game, especially during base attacks, there must be a problem with you. Perhaps it wouldn't be allowing a single builder to do the job of several, or even double his efficiency, but it would still dramatically increase his base repairing potential. Imagine the human base is under attack. A tyrant just took out two turrets before the humans could take him down, but there is also an advanced dragoon sniping the reactor. You're the only human builder. You now have a choice to make: start building new turrets to replace the fallen defenses, or run to try to save the reactor from barbs by repairing it. Under your suggestion, you'd be able to do both, removing the tension and strategy from the situation, as well as significantly boosting your defenses against the aliens. Now imagine instead of you being the only builder, there are two of you. Currently, one could start rebuilding the turrets while the other repairs the reactor. Under your suggestion? Both turrets can begin rebuilding immediately, AND the reactor will get repaired TWICE as fast!

Besides, marked decon makes rapid decons easy and quick, so your point is moot.

[Roanoke]

But the rets wouldn't shoot immediately. You'd be able to get one ret up, which would quickly be chomped before being able to fire, and then the goon resumes sniping the rc. You can't build another one for like 30 seconds, more than enough for the goon to do serious damage and for the rant to come back.

[Bissig]

In that case why not double the damage a rifler deals. I mean, ONE still wouldn't be able to take out that goon, would he...

[Roanoke]

But these are different things. One would be able to damage a goon more seriously.

[Mistah Thrax]

To be quite honest with you Roanoke, goons suck against everything but a turret and they still need to hit it twice, which means they can take out about one, and run like sissys.

The rant? if the human base has no turrets at all, its screwed and going to get rushed anyway. If it has so much as one turret, a builder with your idea could thwart an attack (with a bit of help) while building another. Also rants dont come flying back, almost everybody who uses them always runs away halfway across the map (like noobs) which gives you plenty of time.

If we really needed to heal rets while building more rets, wouldn't you expect humans to lose almost every single game?

No idea what a marked decon is...

[Roanoke]

If we really needed to heal rets while building more rets, wouldn't you expect humans to lose almost every single game?

That's the most decent reason I've heard so far, and I admit you're right.

[Norfenstein]

Game in 10 minutes! US server this week (dev.tremulous.net).

[amz181]

Game in 10 minutes! US server this week (dev.tremulous.net).

IMMM A COMIN!

why do i always post that, as if you want to know  BUT ILL NEVER STOP 

EDIT: My comp froze when i was playing (my comps good) and its not the first time, i think last time aswell it froze...