Tremfusion 0.0.3 is now out! Come grab it now!

[Amanieu]

I have no idea :/

[FedoraMan]

I remade my dead binds yesterday. I'm having a slight problem. So I look at the changelog and..
well..
WHY DID YOU REMOVE THE P_HP CVAR!?!

I use TF mostly for my binds.
Also, custom resolutions still don't work for me.
But otherwise it's great. Very much so.

[ACKMAN]

Well... it will be cool to add p_weapon cvar too

[FedoraMan]

And/or p_ammo. I really don't know how they would go about formatting that though. Maybe p_ammo and p_clips?

[Amanieu]

WHY DID YOU REMOVE THE P_HP CVAR!?!

Because it was decided that it was a cheat.

Also, custom resolutions still don't work for me.

Use r_width and r_height.

About p_weapon, p_ammo, p_clips and any other p_ cvar that may come up later:
We are planning on removing these from the client and putting them in the cgame instead (for technical reasons). This means that you will only be able to use them on non-pure servers. We may be providing a 1.1-compatible cgame/ui with tremfusion, but that is still to be decided.

[FedoraMan]

WHY DID YOU REMOVE THE P_HP CVAR!?!

Because it was decided that it was a cheat.

Also, custom resolutions still don't work for me.

Use r_width and r_height.

About p_weapon, p_ammo, p_clips and any other p_ cvar that may come up later:
We are planning on removing these from the client and putting them in the cgame instead (for technical reasons). This means that you will only be able to use them on non-pure servers. We may be providing a 1.1-compatible cgame/ui with tremfusion, but that is still to be decided.

Ah. I am at a loss to see how it's a cheat, but thanks. 

[SlackerLinux]

And/or p_ammo. I really don't know how they would go about formatting that though. Maybe p_ammo and p_clips?

i have done p_ammo and p_weapon

they give out text like my bind is say_team Player status - /$$P_class/ with a /$$P_weapon/ (/$$P_Ammo/) HP: /$$P_currenthp/ Credits /$$P_credits/
which gives a nice status message like this

Player status - Human with a flamethrower (150/0) HP 52/100 credits: 1234

quite a useful bind being able to give people my status in clan matches

it will be better in cgame and i may do what amanieus doing but i dont really like that you cant not use it on pure servers this way in the client you can but they will break in a mod like say tremx or even some of them in 1.2 (1.2 breaks on ammo)
when they do break you should get unknown or something like that it shouldn't crash or anything - i perfer text stats because i think the gripe with ppl saying cheat is because you can do if p_hp > 10 itemact medkit; +forward. p_currenthp gives your hp in a string with total hp too i might or might not remove p_hp later bot for now it in to stay

i dont think either version is a cheat although the p_hp can makes things too easy at times and thus i don't use it

[doomagent13]

This might be a little beyond what the client can do, but shouldnt it be able to actually carry out the division specified in p_currenthp and then use THAT to determine action?  Maybe you should change it to p_percenthp...

[Amanieu]

percent doesn't stop you from making an auto-medkit bind.

[gimhael]

Especially if humans have 100 max hp.

[Tremulant]

To encourage mappers to use OGG instead of wav

WAV is fine because it compresses to just about the same size as a .ogg file once inside a .zip.

lol?

[Asvarox]

To encourage mappers to use OGG instead of wav

WAV is fine because it compresses to just about the same size as a .ogg file once inside a .zip.

lol?

Discussion about how-wav-is-better-than-ogg-or-ogg-is-better-than-wav is done.

@about p_hp
I'd actually call it "medkit hax" but medkit heals you too slow to give you a noticeable advantage. 

[Syntac]

Actually, the healing rate speeds up after a few seconds (and stops for a moment whenever you receive damage). Although it still doesn't give you much of an advantage.

[SlackerLinux]

thats y i did a string with both current hp and maxhp it would be much harder to use on automedkit but be very useful in status binds

[APX]

So where i can find all variables from game which i can use in scripting?
I have problems with such scripts as:
/set mk "/if hp <= 20 itemact medkit"
/bind w "vstr mk;+forward"
Where i make mistake?

[Amanieu]

First of all, the hp cvar was removed. But here is how you would do it:

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/set usemedkit "itemact medkit"
/bind w "if p_hp <= 20 usemedkit;+forward"


[APX]

OK and how can i check if i have medkit? And where i can see all cvar's like p_hp...

[Amanieu]

/cvarlist p_*

[Bissig]

OK and how can i check if i have medkit? And where i can see all cvar's like p_hp...

You don't have to check for the medikit. It fails when it fails - that's all.

[Archangel]

Any smart player hits their medkit bind as soon as they're damaged. I mash mine constantly (mouse2!)

[APX]

You don't have to check for the medikit. It fails when it fails - that's all.

I don't want to see message "You don't have medkit" every time i press W if i have used medkit.
And when i use "/cvarlist p_*" i see  6 options but i don't see p_hp... And what are the arguments of this cvars? Could you say me when i can use: p_killed, p_attacker,p_class? And what arguments i must use to make statement.

[SlackerLinux]

You don't have to check for the medikit. It fails when it fails - that's all.

I don't want to see message "You don't have medkit" every time i press W if i have used medkit.
And when i use "/cvarlist p_*" i see  6 options but i don't see p_hp... And what are the arguments of this cvars? Could you say me when i can use: p_killed, p_attacker,p_class? And what arguments i must use to make statement.

he has already said p_hp was removed. its still in fsm-trem for the time being. it might be removed in the coming week though in favor for my string version (cant be used to automedkit)

all those except for p_attacker give integer values some like class relating to enum's in the code like 1 might be dretch 2 might be basi 4 might be adv basi etc.

these were made so binds can contain useful info not to be abused as automedkit things.

[snb]

what exactly is tremfusion? i saw it on orbiter 8 what does it do?

[Syntac]

Well, some people are calling it a fork, which is basically a modification to the game (but keeps compatibility). The project maintains a client, a tremded, and probably some other stuff I forgot about.

[EDIT] There are other definitions of "fork" as it applies to Tremulous, but this is the one I've heard the most.

[gimhael]

Well there has been another thread that discusses this subject. I guess that will give you a better insight into the agenda of the tremfusion team than just calling it a fork or a spoon or whatever.

[Hendrich]

Yayz, 0.0.3 is out, awsome! ..., why do I have a felling of dread over me? Oh yea, client wars, right...
I choose TremFusion anyday, bow down to the true superior of all clients! Mwhahahahahaha!

Hendrich has officially turned to the dark-side



On a more serious note:

what exactly is tremfusion? i saw it on orbiter 8 what does it do?

If you ask me (which you didn't), its basically an updated version of the old Tremulous client (which you would've got when you frist installed tremulous) which has useful features and updates that was needed from the old vanilla client.
Before I used Tjw's client, but Bissig has shown me the way of the awsomeness. 

Oh wait, Syntac already has awnsered your question, snap, keeps beating me to it. Hes like some sort of helping machine that never likes to stop. 

[googles]

/bind w "itemact medkit ; +forward"

auto-medkit with tjw client FTW

[+ OPTIMUS +]

/bind w "itemact medkit ; +forward"

auto-medkit with tjw client FTW

have fun with healing yourself from 96 HP and lose your medkit when your buddy accidently fires a bullet into your back, instead of healing 100 HP on yourself at the right situation ;-)

[snb]

Yayz, 0.0.3 is out, awsome! ..., why do I have a felling of dread over me? Oh yea, client wars, right...
I choose TremFusion anyday, bow down to the true superior of all clients! Mwhahahahahaha!

Hendrich has officially turned to the dark-side



On a more serious note:

what exactly is tremfusion? i saw it on orbiter 8 what does it do?

its all right you both taughtme somthing new

If you ask me (which you didn't), its basically an updated version of the old Tremulous client (which you would've got when you frist installed tremulous) which has useful features and updates that was needed from the old vanilla client.
Before I used Tjw's client, but Bissig has shown me the way of the awsomeness. 

Oh wait, Syntac already has awnsered your question, snap, keeps beating me to it. Hes like some sort of helping machine that never likes to stop. 

[UniqPhoeniX]

If these p_* cvars are spsed to be used in binds to tell your status to team, why not make em server side, so they get replaced in what you say?