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« Reply #870 on: August 03, 2011, 06:04:12 am »
Stannum do you see this guy?



Do you know why he's so popular? It's because he includes his community in his development progress. and also minecraft. But that's irrelevant!
The point here is that maybe you should be a little bit more like him in this particular aspect. It would definitely help attract attention and right now I think that's one of the best things that can be done for tremulous.
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« Reply #871 on: August 03, 2011, 08:13:00 am »
Stannum do you see this guy?



Do you know why he's so popular? It's because he includes his community in his development progress. and also minecraft. But that's irrelevant!
The point here is that maybe you should be a little bit more like him in this particular aspect. It would definitely help attract attention and right now I think that's one of the best things that can be done for tremulous.
And only this aspect.

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« Reply #872 on: August 03, 2011, 09:25:53 am »

Stannum do you see this guy?



Do you know why he's so popular? It's because he includes his community in his development progress. and also minecraft. But that's irrelevant!
The point here is that maybe you should be a little bit more like him in this particular aspect. It would definitely help attract attention and right now I think that's one of the best things that can be done for tremulous.
I don't think that crowd sourcing could honestly improve upon Stannum's work (it's really just too damn good), and the work of the other devs has completely conflicting viewpoints from opposing sides in the community. Also, there's the difference that Minecraft is going from beta->release and is missing crucial features, while Trem is release->release and things are mostly matter of opinion.

On top of that, Minecraft has it's own engine, doesn't need to worry about balance, etc. etc.

Very different situations.


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« Reply #874 on: August 03, 2011, 12:54:03 pm »
so how many models stannum need to do ?
.. is 1.2 maybe now at 90 % finished or still under 50 % -.-'
just release this game finaly .. *hope this gonna be this year*

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« Reply #875 on: August 03, 2011, 01:46:44 pm »
yeah stannum needs to gain weight.

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« Reply #876 on: August 03, 2011, 03:57:42 pm »
Stannum do you see this guy?



Do you know why he's so popular? It's because he includes his community in his development progress. and also minecraft. But that's irrelevant!
The point here is that maybe you should be a little bit more like him in this particular aspect. It would definitely help attract attention and right now I think that's one of the best things that can be done for tremulous.

Are you saying he should KICK IT UP A NOTCH?

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« Reply #877 on: August 03, 2011, 04:56:57 pm »
Stannum, you do a realy nice work, and i can't wait the realease of all the new model/animation stuff. wish this will be done before 21 decembre 2012 .... ;)

Anyway, Your work is amazing.

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« Reply #878 on: August 03, 2011, 07:42:56 pm »
wish this will be done before 21 decembre 2012 .... ;)

you are very optimistic, lol.
I like to see the new models because they are beautiful,i do not think that will be present in a tremulous in the near future.(humans weapons models, players models, aliens models, aliens weapons models, humans/aliens Structures..) and others things like trems sounds,maps or gameplay balance = long way to 1.2

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« Reply #879 on: August 04, 2011, 04:28:28 am »
so how many models stannum need to do ?
.. is 1.2 maybe now at 90 % finished or still under 50 % -.-'
just release this game finaly .. *hope this gonna be this year*
nahh he is not even close too finishing.  But I'd say he is about around 55%

Face the facts
Due to done human weapons and alien claws.  Now after what 5 years of getting to this point.  Now another 5 years for redoing human models, alien models, and buildables.    Just think about it.  "He might be a one man army, but he is just one man". He isn't getting paid, meaning it's not top priority to get 1.2. Trust me.  Dude has pride in his work, he isn't releasing jack!  So pretty much 1.2 is a joke.  

F1rst19  :P
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« Reply #880 on: August 04, 2011, 04:58:20 am »
Stannum do you see this guy?



Do you know why he's so popular? It's because he includes his community in his development progress. and also minecraft. But that's irrelevant!
The point here is that maybe you should be a little bit more like him in this particular aspect. It would definitely help attract attention and right now I think that's one of the best things that can be done for tremulous.

Are you saying he should KICK IT UP A NOTCH?
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« Reply #881 on: August 04, 2011, 02:14:42 pm »
i dont realy understand why everything need to be done for the 1.2 release (sound, hud, player models, gun modles, claw models alien modles, build modles).

if you try to make this, its sure that 1.2 will never be release. Look i follow trem devlopment form the first standalone, and i think that the task can realy be speedup if you make updated pk3 of single task change. Think about the balance change Norf made. He dont come up with final balance change in 1 shoot. and GPP dont stand for Gameplay Preview ?

So when you have human gun ready, release a pk3 update of it
Sound ready make a pk3 of it
Hud ready make a pk3
Alien claw make a pk3
Build structure release a pk3 again
Building Radius done release a pk3
Ect...

Like this the community see change, can't post constructive comment, and everyone is happy.
Wish some wise dev will focus work like this, one task at a time
My 2 cent, and sorry for my poor english again

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« Reply #882 on: August 04, 2011, 02:40:09 pm »
i dont realy understand why everything need to be done for the 1.2 release (sound, hud, player models, gun modles, claw models alien modles, build modles).

if you try to make this, its sure that 1.2 will never be release. Look i follow trem devlopment form the first standalone, and i think that the task can realy be speedup if you make updated pk3 of single task change. Think about the balance change Norf made. He dont come up with final balance change in 1 shoot. and GPP dont stand for Gameplay Preview ?

So when you have human gun ready, release a pk3 update of it
Sound ready make a pk3 of it
Hud ready make a pk3
Alien claw make a pk3
Build structure release a pk3 again
Building Radius done release a pk3
Ect...

Like this the community see change, can't post constructive comment, and everyone is happy.
Wish some wise dev will focus work like this, one task at a time
My 2 cent, and sorry for my poor english again

WarLock



Or you guys could stop trying to tell the developers what to do and help out where you can,




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« Reply #883 on: August 04, 2011, 04:04:32 pm »
one artist
one and a half coder
a few website designers who change the forum layout each year
a game designer who is obsessed with balance.
a high council of procrastinators.
a lot of people trying to help.
(unfortunately, they are not aware that no matter what they do, the designer and the procrastinators won't allow a release.)

That is not how you develop a game.
LOL

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« Reply #884 on: August 04, 2011, 04:18:58 pm »
One highly committed troll.
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« Reply #885 on: August 04, 2011, 04:47:01 pm »
One highly committed troll.
yes you are :D

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« Reply #886 on: August 04, 2011, 05:46:52 pm »
I find it funny how you're all blaming Norf and balance.

If you can be so out of touch on that, why should I trust a word you say?
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« Reply #887 on: August 04, 2011, 08:26:38 pm »
So when you have human gun ready, release a pk3 update of it
Sound ready make a pk3 of it
Hud ready make a pk3
Alien claw make a pk3
Build structure release a pk3 again
Building Radius done release a pk3
Ect...

Seems like a valid point to me. This is stannum deciding what he does with his models, which he has every right to do, but it seems like he could really help the image of progress being made if he did release this stuff as he makes it. He seems to be going for the big release method at the moment, but the longer this takes the more big it will have to be to maintain support for it. Even if he only released a weapon every 2 months it would be something to give the impression of pace to the development of tremulous that it severely lacks at this time.

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« Reply #888 on: August 04, 2011, 08:30:16 pm »
So when you have human gun ready, release a pk3 update of it
Sound ready make a pk3 of it
Hud ready make a pk3
Alien claw make a pk3
Build structure release a pk3 again
Building Radius done release a pk3
Ect...

Seems like a valid point to me. This is stannum deciding what he does with his models, which he has every right to do, but it seems like he could really help the image of progress being made if he did release this stuff as he makes it. He seems to be going for the big release method at the moment, but the longer this takes the more big it will have to be to maintain support for it. Even if he only released a weapon every 2 months it would be something to give the impression of pace to the development of tremulous that it severely lacks at this time.
In my opinion, as long as you keep the community updated on what you're doing, I would prefer to have a big release. Just because people may get bored with the new release really fast, and 1.2 won't really be as big of a surprise, or a new game. At least, that is my opinion.
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« Reply #889 on: August 04, 2011, 09:14:35 pm »
once they released an unfinished version of tremulous. result was bad; people actually liked it. unacceptable.

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« Reply #890 on: August 04, 2011, 10:33:51 pm »
might be interesting to release the beta material, people might suggest (or create) improvements. like true combat cqb, a alpha game, the creator always release new stuff for people to test, so when everything is ready, the game will certainly be better. urban terror HD has a similar process.


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one suggestion for pulse rifle model, I think eotech does not fit the model very much, perhaps more futurist could be better(exemple: video cameras), like a FN F2000, XM25. or add a heartbeat sensor/Reddot in some gun(if it works, Why the hell do we need a non functional heartbeat sensor? : P)

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« Reply #891 on: August 05, 2011, 06:38:55 am »
one suggestion for pulse rifle model, I think eotech does not fit the model very much, perhaps more futurist could be better(exemple: video cameras), like a FN F2000, XM25. or add a heartbeat sensor/Reddot in some gun(if it works, Why the hell do we need a non functional heartbeat sensor? : P)
better: why do we need any?
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« Reply #892 on: August 05, 2011, 03:41:22 pm »
i like alien's movie : D (and, Smartgun is cool, in the movies, this weapon has a motion sensor).

exemple: in tremulous, buy helmet+chaigun = chaigun with motion sensor(but,The gun will not aim for you like avp) : P

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« Reply #893 on: August 05, 2011, 03:56:48 pm »
Love how people ignored volts post. LOL. Glad to see what your working on.

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« Reply #894 on: August 05, 2011, 04:09:55 pm »
I played a lot with the version of tremulous between 2009 and 2010. I play less this year. As a player, I need some simple changes such as new official maps, some changes in textures or model of weapon.

I understand a little English and I do not often have the status of the game. We've been salivating at the wonderful screenshots (models, textures, maps, ...) but no version is released.

Why not upgrade to minor version as 1.1.1, 1.1.2, 1.1.3, ... that would bring some changes but it would feel to players (who do not follow the development) that the game is changing and that this project is still alive ...

It's just my opinion
Sorry for my english
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« Reply #895 on: August 05, 2011, 04:15:35 pm »
Quote from: The Cathedral and the Bazaar, Eric S. Raymond
Release early. Release often. And listen to your customers.
No? Fine. Look at Volt's post and 'salivate'.

You make up Qrntz, u always angry, just calmdown. :police:
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« Reply #896 on: August 05, 2011, 04:19:49 pm »
Quote from: The Cathedral and the Bazaar, Eric S. Raymond
Release early. Release often. And listen to your customers.
No? Fine. Look at Volt's post and 'salivate'.

Dude, that shit is 3x better than what the dev's have shown us.

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« Reply #897 on: August 05, 2011, 06:37:03 pm »
Quote from: The Cathedral and the Bazaar, Eric S. Raymond
Release early. Release often. And listen to your customers.
No? Fine. Look at Volt's post and 'salivate'.

Dude, that shit is 3x better than what the dev's have shown us.
The HUD? Yes. The human is poorly proportioned and the "dretch" (though I doubt it is anything other than a random spider) is impractically high-poly. Not to mention that alien modeling would likely extend the release date by a hefty amount of months, regardless of how many (few) community members joined in.
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« Reply #898 on: August 05, 2011, 06:48:37 pm »
Quote from: The Cathedral and the Bazaar, Eric S. Raymond
Release early. Release often. And listen to your customers.
No? Fine. Look at Volt's post and 'salivate'.

Dude, that shit is 3x better than what the dev's have shown us.
The HUD? Yes. The human is poorly proportioned and the "dretch" (though I doubt it is anything other than a random spider) is impractically high-poly. Not to mention that alien modeling would likely extend the release date by a hefty amount of months, regardless of how many (few) community members joined in.

Humans head will be fixed so it's not so big. The Dretch is the same size as the current one length/height wise. Meshes were combined and a texture was applied works ingame with animations. also  It's not a random spider and it doesn't exceed currently poly limit and you know what the best part is? it's legs move when it walks instead of gliding like the current  dretch. I'm just doing my part, everyone else should be as well.

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« Reply #899 on: August 05, 2011, 06:55:18 pm »
Meshes were combined and a texture was applied works ingame with animations. also  It's not a random spider and it doesn't exceed currently poly limit and you know what the best part is? it's legs move when it walks instead of gliding like the current  dretch. I'm just doing my part, everyone else should be as well.

Can I see?