Make tremulous a "full" game

[Netter]

I've played trem for awhile, even thought i have not been following it up lately, so, if a post or similar post is already up there, excuse me, anyhow, as i was saying, i've been playing trem for awhile, and, i've noticed that the graphics, engine, etc... and all of that are getting a bit 'old' (most people cane agree on that, yes?), and, and idea came in mind when i saw a call of duty black ops advertisement, if the game was not free, and you had to pay for it. but, it had better graphics (today's graphics, for example, black ops/bfbc2 like graphics), better sound quality, better maps (details etc...), better races/guns/evolve type, and better engine, would you pay for it?

i'm saying this because i reckon the idea of tremulous (the base building and alien - human style gameplay) is great, and in my opinion, one of the greatest ideas for an fps since it has a stategy, thus you have to think, not just gun everything down mindlessly, it is fast paced, but can be slow paced if you more lenient towards camping, which is inturn counteracted by the fast pace of aliens or the range weapons, and if it a it was pay , would you buy it? I would definitely buy it. and i know at least 6 people amongst my friends that would also buy it.

so, what is your opinion?

[Celestial_Rage]

I like my FOSS version of Tremulous, thank you very much.

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@op:gj reading the forums :-)

btw
ET quake wars had opportunity to build stuff along with usual massacre, which... failed. however, there the two races was miserably similar. the strogg carry a lot more potential.
for a paying game like this check natural selection 2, they way of making business you are trying to talk about looks running fine, making their own engine, nice ideas and nice visuals.

mind you that trem is not a business effort, rather a playground for hobbyists.

if one wants to make money from trem, talk to games workshop and relic or w/e and make a deal to redesign it as a new Space Hulk game.
FPS with techmarines from imperial guard(S1) to spacemarine, than terminator armors VS 'nids, who are already meant to be a highly customisable race. all could pretty much remain the same.
wait for the money.
win  

[gimhael]

There is a donation button right on the homepage...

[Haraldx]

idea came in mind when i saw a call of duty black ops advertisement, if the game was not free, and you had to pay for it. but, it had better graphics (today's graphics, for example, black ops/bfbc2 like graphics), better sound quality, better maps (details etc...), better races/guns/evolve type, and better engine.

Sorry dude, but I don't pay for the graphics, that's one of the reasons why I still play old games and no crap that started coming out from 2007 (Minecraft is an exception) - it is all about the graphics, which most of them don't even have so realistic (overused bloom, depth of field, reflections etc.)
Besides, my computer can't even run this new crap - the newest game I have played is MW2 (which I downloaded from a torrent ) because I wanted some campaign based shooter. CoD new series really have overused effects where ever they could be overused. In overall, CoD has always been an overrated game.

better races/guns/evolve type

Care to explain what you actually meant? Better races? There are only 2 races in the game, don't understand what did you mean. Better guns? If you think the models of guns, then 1.2 will have new, higher detail models. better evolve type? You want to change all the aliens and make them somehow better for the aliens advantage?

[SuperTennisGuy]

Most of the fun of Tremulous is that it's free, therefore allowing all kinds of different people to play it. Not just rich white guys like Roger Federer. This, of course, allows for a better, more varied chat and gameplay experience.

SuperTennisGuy

[Pazuzu]

Not just rich white guys like any person with a PC and $50.

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[Kiwi]

You could charge people for the game, as long as you gave them the source code whenever they ask for it.

[Qrntz]

You could charge people for the game, as long as you gave them the source code whenever they ask for it.

That's why there isn't any GPLed shareware.

[Tremulant]

You could charge people for the game, as long as you gave them the source code whenever they ask for it.

That's why there isn't any GPLed shareware.

Apart from xchat

[StevenM]

if tremulous had clean visuals, nice maps and was in general more elaborate in terms of the guns,classes and maps, I'd have to say I'd pay 10-20 bucks for it.

Of course they'd have to keep the gameplay/style similar to what it is now.

If people will pay 20 bucks for TF2 i dont see why they wouldnt for an improved verison of tremulous.

problem is no one is willing to put in the effort. i mean the devs have us making sounds for them ffs.

[CreatureofHell]

FOSS Tremulous is what makes it fun and unplayed by the masses. Change is dangerous.

[Firstinaction]

I say. Tremulous needs achievements.  For ex: you get 5 kills in a row. You get something.   
And big letters pop up on screen saying ( You killed...)  or ( 2 kills in a row) etc...      What makes me keep playing games is achievements.   Challenges. Unlockables.  But I stayed playing trem because its unlockable guns and classes. 

[Pazuzu]

I say. Tremulous needs achievements.  For ex: you get 5 kills in a row. You get something.   
And big letters pop up on screen saying ( You killed...)  or ( 2 kills in a row) etc...      What makes me keep playing games is achievements.   Challenges. Unlockables.  But I stayed playing trem because its unlockable guns and classes. 

...No. Achievements would encourage noobs to camp and feed to get them. Imagine a whole team of humans camping in their base (or with jetpacks, even worse) with mass drivers, trying to see who can get the longest e-peenkillstreak. Tremulous doesn't work that way. Maybe with intelligently-designed rewards (ie, building an outpost and having it last more than a minute, which would give them an incentive not to camp), but Tremulous isn't Call of Duty, and shouldn't be treated like it is.

[SuperTennisGuy]

I say. Tremulous needs achievements.  For ex: you get 5 kills in a row. You get something.   
And big letters pop up on screen saying ( You killed...)  or ( 2 kills in a row) etc...      What makes me keep playing games is achievements.   Challenges. Unlockables.  But I stayed playing trem because its unlockable guns and classes. 

...No. Achievements would encourage noobs to camp and feed to get them. Imagine a whole team of humans camping in their base (or with jetpacks, even worse) with mass drivers, trying to see who can get the longest e-peenkillstreak. Tremulous doesn't work that way. Maybe with intelligently-designed rewards (ie, building an outpost and having it last more than a minute, which would give them an incentive not to camp), but Tremulous isn't Call of Duty, and shouldn't be treated like it is.

And then you get all the achievments... Oh! I'm done. See you Trem.

[Nux]

What makes me keep playing games is achievements.

As far as I can see achievements by thier very nature are superfluous (otherwise they are called "mission objectives") so if it get's to the point where I'm playing a game just so I can get the 'I really have this much spare time' achievement then clearly I've exhausted what fun I can get out of the game and am only playing it because I have obsessive compulsive disorder.

[sheridanm962]

Try Half-life 2 it's not as bad as those more fake looking games.

And have you tried to counter-act those settings via console?

I love the source engine mainly because it came from 2004  

garrys mod is an exception to that :O

[Zordos]

I would imagine that the original programmers could have very well thought of themselves and not the gaming population, regardless of other considerations (i.e., global monopolies of corporations, downright greed, etc.) and made this wonderful game that people can share in, improve and play, with minimum monetary investment, if any. People are always coming up with ways to monopolize on someone elses work; copyright of maps, sounds, textures, etc.  If you open that door, the door opens very wide and then sometimes impossible to close.  Want to spend money, donate to your favorite server or to this one, which I have not yet, but will.

[SamOz]

Not just rich white guys like any person with a PC and $50.

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Misquoting is rather rude, you should know.

Besides, PCs vary widely and parents are less likely these days to shell out their cash for some kid to have a top-notch computer that can keep up with the faster graphics. Bad economy. Maybe you read about it in the news...

[Qrntz]

Bad economy. Maybe you read about it in the news...

Ukraine here has a question. What the hell is that economy thing the whole world is talking about, um?!

[DarkRogue]

I vote yes to Trem Achievements....with the first auto complete going to the suggester.

'FAILED TO REALIZE ACHIEVEMENTS SUCK ASS!'

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Congrats you've achieved greatness that not one other person gives a true flaming rats ass about.

Good for you douche bag...

What's next drops, a trem co. store and people complaining about hats?

Seriously, where's the football helmet for my dretch!

[Cadynum]

Lets see:

• Port tremulous to the crysis engine
• Add vehicles
• Make steam a requirement
• Add intrusive anti-cheat
• Achievements!
• Ak-47
• Remove the alien team
• Only ATCS and ATCS clones
• Loads of auto aim and bullet magnetism

Instant success!!

(Don't take offense, i didn't actually read what you wrote in the first post)

[ziplocpeople]

Lets see:

• Port tremulous to the crysis new nexuiz engine
• Add vehicles
• Make steam a requirement
• Add intrusive anti-cheat
• Achievements!
• Ak-47
• Remove the alien team
• Only ATCS and ATCS clones
• Loads of auto aim and bullet magnetism

Instant success!!

(Don't take offense, i didn't actually read your tl;dr)

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