Risujin's Balance Mod for SVN 879 revision 16

[_Equilibrium_]

voting is bad. votes are now NEVER passed. make it like 4/7 or something instead of 2/3. green saw still rules. finally, tyrant slash is WAY too short now. i agree it can be shortened, but  this is too much. how much did you cut it down anyway? and saws should NOT have kickback!

you have not really answered me besides the voting sytem, which is still bad. NO votes are being passed anymore. tyrant slash and saw kickback are problems that need fixing.

[Rawr]

Error: !supertyrant is for the registerd version only.

what the hell is this?

[rasz_pl]

Good that the SWL server is listed.
I am now running revision 9 and there is 16 public slots.

im in the UE and this server is "filtered out due to >800ping or packet loss" :/

[Risujin]

Error: !supertyrant is for the registerd version only.

what the hell is this?

Naughty admin! Don't worry though, naughty admins have a fun new command in rev 10 coming up .. complete with new sound effect (ooooh).

Fix the kickback, by making it different for different weapons, and preferably different between crouching, running, etc.

Done.

you have not really answered me besides the voting sytem, which is still bad. NO votes are being passed anymore.

What do you suggest for the voting system? I dont want to go back to plain majority votes.

[_Equilibrium_]

Fix the kickback, by making it different for different weapons, and preferably different between crouching, running, etc.

Done.

you have not really answered me besides the voting sytem, which is still bad. NO votes are being passed anymore.

What do you suggest for the voting system? I dont want to go back to plain majority votes.

1) how was it fixed? does saw have no kickback now?
2) maybe make it a 3/5 majority vote

...and have you considered my tyrant suggestion?

[Risujin]

1) how was it fixed? does saw have no kickback now?

Kickback has been removed for saws and rifle. Crouching will halve kickback.

2) maybe make it a 3/5 majority vote

I dont know if just lowering the proportion will do it. Perhaps a global vote should count majority separately for aliens and humans, requiring both to pass? (that may be too complicated though...)

...and have you considered my tyrant suggestion?

I definitely noticed that I over-nerfed tyrants, that was unfortunate. Range has been increased by about 1.5x.

I am in the process of splitting Balance into patches and integrating with the latest SVN. Thanks to TJW it has unlagged now so we will see how melee attacks play out now.

[techhead]

So !supertyrant does absolutely nothing?

[Risujin]

So !supertyrant does absolutely nothing?

I think Im gonna have to can this function. Our dear admins arent very bright and/or did not read my "admin abuse" thread.  :cry:

[Rawr]

i was expecting a flying tyrant : /

[Caveman]

I think Im gonna have to can this function. Our dear admins arent very bright and/or did not read my "admin abuse" thread.  :cry:

*shrugs* but they are once that permit your mod on their server .)
So best dont bite them if you want your work honored .)

[Risujin]

I think Im gonna have to can this function. Our dear admins arent very bright and/or did not read my "admin abuse" thread.  :cry:

*shrugs* but they are once that permit your mod on their server .)
So best dont bite them if you want your work honored .)

Its time for !supertyrant to go ... or start working  :wink:

[_Equilibrium_]

supertyrant?

[Risujin]

supertyrant?

Im going to remove it so I might as well explain. Here is a requiem for a bad idea:

!supertyrant was supposed to be a command so abusive that normal admins wouldnt even think of using it. The help message would have describe an abusive command ("will turn you into advanced tyrant for free") but when used it sets your admin level to 0. Needless to say, everyone went "wtf is !supertyrant?", tried it, and didnt get the joke message. Moreover, they probably werent too pleased with their new admin level.

My appologies to all inconvenienced by this. To atone, I will now commit seppuku.

\kill

[_Equilibrium_]

what are the differences with the admin levels? can someone tell me what each level does?

[stalefries]

Equilibrium: It really depends on how much control an admin is willing to give to you at each level.

[Door Slammer]

In regards to the balance mod;

Bile dretch is way to powerful of a weapon.

Tsaw can only catch a dretch or tyrant.

Recoil on blaster?

WTF recoil on saws?  Have you ever used a chainsaw?


This mod has made aliens far too powerful.  The only chance the humans have is to kill eggs and OM.  Scenerio:  8 v 8, aliens have an average of 3 evos each, all aliens become bile dretch for 3 seperate massed attacks, game over.

[Risujin]

Bile dretch is way to powerful of a weapon.

It has been nerfed three times already.

Tsaw can only catch a dretch or tyrant.

Aliens (and humans) can jump out when basi-grabbed. This is a bug I will try to fix.

Recoil on blaster?

WTF recoil on saws?  Have you ever used a chainsaw?

Fixed in the next version.

This mod has made aliens far too powerful.

Two nights ago, we played all evening without a single alien victory. One bile is stopped by one repairing human. Of course, not in sudden death...

[rasz_pl]

Aliens (and humans) can jump out when basi-grabbed. This is a bug I will try to fix.

please do
theoretically basi should catch SAW running towards him, in practice it never happens, no idea if its lag/server latency or server forgets something in the process, but every time i tried it I heard catch sound, hummie stopped for <0.2 second and BAM ran thru my basi sawing it

[Risujin]

Fixing all the wierdnesses of rev. 9 such as kickbacking saws, here comes rev. 10! The biggest new feature is unlagged support (thanks to TJW), which I hope works out alright. There are many many subtle changes all around, just looking at the tweaks and features lists makes me wonder how I wrote all that out much less coded it!

Rev. 10 introduces a good deal of its own wierdness though. The one that bothers me most is the obituaries. You now get things like "Risujin's battlesuit shouldn't have trod in acid", which on the one hand tell you more information but on the other are ... wierd.

I spent a lot of time slicing apart the big balance changes patch into smaller patches. Its a big pain in the ass to have to do this every revision for every feature, I'll have to think of something. Interested devs will definitely appreciate this though. Perhaps I can get some of these included in SVN? Maybe not, every one of my patches includes a client side modification.

[robug]

Yaknet Balance and Yaknet [COM] Clan servers running rev 10.  The link above link didnt work but you can get the patch from Risujin's server.

Thanks again for the mod Ris

[holyknight]

hehehe, tried it and it was fun... but...
I didn't like the "feed" thing... it made me very ashamed...
the "Slap" thing was funny, but later it got annoying, I got killed by either being hit too much, and when I fell down the hole and when I got distracted enough to be killed... lol...

[SilverWolf]

SWL is now running revision 10.
!slap is really usefull when falling down in transit. With !slap you only get like 5 dmg.

[Risujin]

Yaknet Balance and Yaknet [COM] Clan servers running rev 10.  The link above link didnt work but you can get the patch from Risujin's server.

Oh NOES! I changed the revision number but not the SVN number in the link! The pk3 was uploaded correctly. The data in the pk3 was modified so please please use the official pk3! The patch alone won't cut it.

Thanks again for the mod Ris

Thanks to all of the server ops giving Balance mod a home!

!slap is really usefull when falling down in transit. With !slap you only get like 5 dmg.

XD

BTW unlagged is enabled by default. How is this working out?

[kevlarman]

BTW unlagged is enabled by default. How is this working out?

if you're using 871, then you should wait a bit before enabling it, there are issues with goon pounce and basi grab that were hidden by lag.

[vcxzet]

BTW unlagged is enabled by default. How is this working out?

if you're using 871, then you should wait a bit before enabling it, there are issues with goon pounce and basi grab that were hidden by lag.

balancing effect

[Risujin]

BTW unlagged is enabled by default. How is this working out?

if you're using 871, then you should wait a bit before enabling it, there are issues with goon pounce and basi grab that were hidden by lag.

Its 870. What issues are you talking about? (Anything with basi grab affects the mod 2x heh). There is also a patch about pounce muzzle point on bugzilla, any relation?

[kevlarman]

BTW unlagged is enabled by default. How is this working out?

if you're using 871, then you should wait a bit before enabling it, there are issues with goon pounce and basi grab that were hidden by lag.

Its 870. What issues are you talking about? (Anything with basi grab affects the mod 2x heh). There is also a patch about pounce muzzle point on bugzilla, any relation?

that might be it, icculus.org svn is down right now, so i can't look at it
EDIT: just try hitting some naked humans with pounce at ~60 ping with unlagged enabled and you will know.

[Undeference]

icculus.org bugzilla is down right now

fixed

[Risujin]

EDIT: just try hitting some naked humans with pounce at ~60 ping with unlagged enabled and you will know.

Pounce was working fine for me this morning (~80 ping)... whats the basilisk bug?

[StVald]

Too bad that !supertyrant plot of yours didn't work out as expected Risujin, but it was brilliantly funny and clever plan.