Risujin's Balance Mod for SVN 879 revision 16

[n00b pl0x]

does this mean we can build closer together now and not have them dissappear?

[Evlesoa]

basically, yes i thinks!

[Risujin]

does this mean we can build closer together now and not have them dissappear?

I stuck 4 acids together, worked for me.

[_Equilibrium_]

maybe give xael a little spash damage and make it 700 creds or something. it might balance it a bit more. oh, and how about that ".score" thing. i like to know how i am doing in the server.

...and how's the firefly thing going?

[_Equilibrium_]

does xael shoot if there is only 1 power left in it? if it can't, is that a bug?

edit: sorry for double post

[Risujin]

maybe give xael a little spash damage and make it 700 creds or something. it might balance it a bit more.

Im adding a secondary fire with splash damage.

oh, and how about that ".score" thing. i like to know how i am doing in the server.

What .score thing??

...and how's the firefly thing going?

No model.

does xael shoot if there is only 1 power left in it? if it can't, is that a bug?

No, like the luci it needs a minimum charge .. and you dont have enough ammo for it with 1 apparently.

[Evlesoa]

you need to up the price... make it 800, cuz Xael is very powerful, ive seen it do a 1 hit kill on a full health tyrant... also make it overcharge, AKA backfire, with a beep noise...

[Rawr]

Xael gun is wayyyy to powerfull. needs not to be able to bounce from humans and tyrants. I got 1shotted today by one because it bounced from me to him like 374827 times(not really, but i did get 1 shotted). also needs to cost like 700-800

[Evlesoa]

How the hell do you delete layouts?? i just made like 50 layouts, and cant delete

[techhead]

Make the individual shots hurt less, not more, than a luci.
Maybe around 10 damage per ammo.
Add an overcharge.
Add a secondary fire, for that last 1 ammo you sometimes have left.

10 hp is pathetic for a bile dretch, a stray shot could take one down.

And someone really should get working on that firefly model. If I had a mac modeling program (not X11), I would do it myself.

[Risujin]

Make the individual shots hurt less, not more, than a luci.

There must be a bug. The Xael2 does 100 damage which is a little over 1/3 luci damage and it costs nearly as much. In other words, its expected to bounce and hit 3 times on average.

A Xael2 shot should never insta kill anything larger than a granger.

Maybe around 10 damage per ammo.

It does exactly 10 damage per ammo!

Add an overcharge.

What exactly would overcharge do... the lucifer cannon overcharge explodes the luci projectile, but exoploding a Xael2 projectile does nothing => no splash damage.

Add a secondary fire, for that last 1 ammo you sometimes have left.

Adding a splash damage secondary (w/o bounce).

10 hp is pathetic for a bile dretch, a stray shot could take one down.

It is only intended to be used when humans are camping and Aliens are not yet S3. The Adv. Goon is still the workhorse for bringing down bases. Scout their base first, evolve nearby and pounce above their turrets.

And someone really should get working on that firefly model. If I had a mac modeling program (not X11), I would do it myself.

Well ... theres nothing but Blender for Mac OS X AFAIK:
http://www.blender.org/cms/Mac_OS_X.200.0.html

[techhead]

Make is shoot a bunch of small Xael balls, hurting the wielder and nearby objects?
Also, thanks for the link!

[Evlesoa]

Please make it COST more...

and Risujin, did u block me on MSN??

BTW, how do u remove layouts? No one answered that... can you impliment that too?

[holyknight]

personally, I FREAKING hate the "feed" thing... makes me ashamed of myself as rest of other people.
Also, for Xael gun, make it less accurate... for example, try and make it smaller, so it's harder to hit dretches.
It was hilirious when I killed myself couple of times because of the xael gun... heh

[Risujin]

and Risujin, did u block me on MSN??

Mayyyybeee....

BTW, how do u remove layouts? No one answered that... can you impliment that too?

Sorry! Its !layout remove (name) ... I cant believe I forgot to document that...

personally, I FREAKING hate the "feed" thing... makes me ashamed of myself as rest of other people.

Its for the best.

make it smaller, so it's harder to hit dretches

Maybe youre better than me but I get owned by dretches when I run around with the X2.

[vcxzet]

arghh xael2 is 2 hard to use

[Risujin]

arghh xael2 is 2 hard to use

Balance mod seems to have a steeper learning curve than normal Trem...

[holyknight]

personally, I FREAKING hate the "feed" thing... makes me ashamed of myself as rest of other people.

Its for the best.

so you are not gonna get rid of it

make it smaller, so it's harder to hit dretches

Maybe youre better than me but I get owned by dretches when I run around with the X2.

Well, killing dretches is hard sometimes, but it's still pretty easy...
and it should be more expensive than Lucy Cannon too, it's too cheap
I get so annoyed whenever people use that X(

[_Equilibrium_]

oh, and how about that ".score" thing. i like to know how i am doing in the server.

What .score thing??

potato patch has it. it takes the amount of kill and death you have on that server and gives you score. i'm not sure how they calcualte it. and it keeps track of how you are doing on the server total, not just during a game.

[Evlesoa]

LMAO i found a bug, i can make "Invisible" buildings... nice going Risujin!

Edit - and another bug, where a player in a specific slot (not telling) will kill someone with 1 hit, using xael!

[Risujin]

potato patch has it. it takes the amount of kill and death you have on that server and gives you score. i'm not sure how they calcualte it. and it keeps track of how you are doing on the server total, not just during a game.

If theres a patch I'll add it.

LMAO i found a bug, i can make "Invisible" buildings...

... by standing where a building is supposed to load with !layout, yes I know.

Edit - and another bug, where a player in a specific slot (not telling) will kill someone with 1 hit, using xael!

The 1 hit xael bug needs to be fixed. It has nothing to do with client slot. Adding a "cooldown" to the missile will do it, say cant re-damage a client for x msec ... its essentially the same mechanism by which it avoids impacting the shooter to begin with.

[vcxzet]

LMAO i found a bug, i can make "Invisible" buildings... nice going Risujin!

Edit - and another bug, where a player in a specific slot (not telling) will kill someone with 1 hit, using xael!

since only admins can do layouts they need to be careful
first build everything save and reload
if there is an error fix and save again
+ the ones saved with prev ones may cause problems
+ load layouts in spec mode

[Evlesoa]

no im talking about building shit too close... it will go invisible! and, lately, if you build things between cracks, the model falls and the buildings goes invisible :| i did that, and made a row of invisible turrets cuz placed too close...

[dodo1122]

maybe add r1ch's sticky spec?




dodo

[Risujin]

maybe add r1ch's sticky spec?

You mean how when someone dies you can keep spectating? Yeah thats back in there.

[dodo1122]

Anyway, YK@ Balance server is running Balance mod rev 13 now. Everyone seems to be enjoying balance mod there  




dodo

[Risujin]

Anyway, YK@ Balance server is running Balance mod rev 13 now. Everyone seems to be enjoying balance mod there  

You guys are !slap-happy.

[Risujin]

Revision 14. Team overlay ftw!

[benmachine]

Team overlays are brilliant

...but what's with the changes on !slap?
No damage to bile, no message, and the kill says "was squished"
Plus the damage to a marine seems to vary between 5 and 15

[Risujin]

No damage to bile, no message, and the kill says "was squished"
Plus the damage to a marine seems to vary between 5 and 15

Thanks, I knew it'd cause trouble. The damage is now a percentage of max health and defaults to 1/25 which rounds down to 0 for bile. With marines it was working fine for me but there may be a bug too, I will look... "was squished" is probably from copy pasting out of Balance Lite...