The Spread Of Aimbots.

[Survivor]

I'm talking about the kind of people with the intensivly highly trained level of being able to use google and a direct connection between a word and a working bot.

[.f0rqu3]

why do some idiots posting link to this lame null aimbot constantly?
I think Null or whoever created this aimbot is really stupid and cant code shit
not that I am against a trem aimbot
but tremulous is opensource and they are still hooking the binary

this aimbot does not even qualify as an aimbot

[Plague Bringer]

why do some idiots posting link to this lame null aimbot constantly?
I think Null or whoever created this aimbot is really stupid and cant code shit
not that I am against a trem aimbot
but tremulous is opensource and they are still hooking the binary

this aimbot does not even qualify as an aimbot

Are you implying that you can do better?

We should have a bot-off.

fork's bot vs null's bot.

Then, we'll see who has the l33ter kodez.

[.f0rqu3]

why do some idiots posting link to this lame null aimbot constantly?
I think Null or whoever created this aimbot is really stupid and cant code shit
not that I am against a trem aimbot
but tremulous is opensource and they are still hooking the binary

this aimbot does not even qualify as an aimbot

Are you implying that you can do better?

We should have a bot-off.

fork's bot vs null's bot.

Then, we'll see who has the l33ter kodez.

null has no aimbot ... he didnt coded anything
yes I have an aimbot that pwnz em all. if someday tremulous pisses me off I will release it.

my aimbot has some great features
aims at the weakest target
doesnt aim too fast (accelerated movement but not slow)
aims at the head if the target is near
aims at some random location if thetarget is far away
doesnt lock on targets too much selects the slowest moving target if possible
has some other features

btw plague bringer you are like a whistle in the wind

[mooseberry]

We should make the GUIDs hardware based, so re-installing Tremulous would not change it. This way, we would have a greater chance of banning cheaters. We should also implement an online database, which tracks all banned GUIDs. If a GUID is banned from several servers (with different IPs), the GUID gets globally banned.

Maybe this is to late but I like DASPRid's idea.  :-?

[Evlesoa]

Forque... have you ever made hacks / cheats for any game? I think not... Null has been in the aimbot business ever since Wolfenstein ET came out... so why dontcha just stop pulling that trigger, y'a trigger happy hillbilly!

[mooseberry]

btw plague bringer you are like a whistle in the wind

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[.f0rqu3]

Forque... have you ever made hacks / cheats for any game? I think not... Null has been in the aimbot business ever since Wolfenstein ET came out... so why dontcha just stop pulling that trigger, y'a trigger happy hillbilly!

sure thing
but why is he using ogc?
being in the aimbot business means nothing. it doesnt mean you are a good coder it doesnt even mean you are a good aimbot coder.
and yes I made several hacks I am serious about my aimbot

[Evlesoa]

whats with OGC? I mean whats wrong with it... he used C-Dev or something like that... i dont see why u guys are saying his work is crap

[Odin]

Forque... have you ever made hacks / cheats for any game? I think not... Null has been in the aimbot business ever since Wolfenstein ET came out... so why dontcha just stop pulling that trigger, y'a trigger happy hillbilly!

If .f0rqu3's aimbot does all that I am sincerely impressed. Null can suck a cock.

.f0rqu3 <3

[.f0rqu3]

because it is not his work. he did nothing at all.

[Evlesoa]

[size=0]Wtf u mean not his work... you looked at source and you see that he didnt make it? Is that what you are saying... ?[/size]

[.f0rqu3]

Wtf u mean not his work... you looked at source and you see that he didnt make it? Is that what you are saying... ?

if he is not "noskill" no
"//Copyright (C) 2003 noskill" from the original ogc

[Evlesoa]

[size=0]well he goes by many names... il ask him about it tho[/size]

[Nux]

Evlesoa, please stop posting in small font. The novelty has worn off and so anything posted as such I will ignore from now on.

[null]

evl: I told you, you dont have to defend me. I honestly dont care what he says

Work on the hack began before ANYONE knew it, i mean, he told me when he was half way thru it... then he scrapped it, and restarted. It was so long ago, its last year news. So dont say "ME" cuz i bet he knew it before that.

no, this is false. work on the hack began about 2 days before it was released. Forq: if you dont like my coding or dont like something about it, I honestly dont care. Feel free to insult me based on a function I used (which if you notice was commented as saying it was from ogc - would someone change the design of a wheel to a square even though the circle works perfectly?)

I dont care about your "awesome" bot, because I could make all those features without any difficulty. The reason I havent? Because I dont even play tremulous much, I was just messing around. You play the game, you know stuff about it. If you can code and know the source (or the quake3 source) decently, you can make all those features no problem. What makes a tremulous bot good? Prediction and features. Mine has a very basic prediction, and since it was made in 2 days, very basic features. You play the game, so you can obviously figure out the tweaks needed that make it perfect - but I guarantee you I could make something that would kick your ass.

Oh, and btw. Lets see a screen or two so your not just pulling it out of your ass. If your so good at making cheats, why dont YOU help them make an anticheat?

Looks like I ended up with a long post after all eh?

[.f0rqu3]

...
first of all you dont know anything because you could implement ogc functionality in trem itself. remember it is open source. creating a hook app is kinda lame for an open source app

and cheat and anticheat are completely different. cheats are easy to make
anticheat is harder and sometimes not even possible

you wont get any screenie or anything. I dont need to prove you anything. ( so you are free to think I am pulling it out of my ass I dont care )

[Survivor]

Just a friendly reminder in this hacker standoff. Don't let anything particular slip in the heat of discussion. With this I am referring to direct and indirect leads for people to obtain working aimbots, aimbotcode or sites which make them available. This also includes vague references towards the names of certain aimbots and known hacker sites which can easily be found through google should their exact names or abbreviations be known.

You are both within limits for now but if I you really wish to continue this may I suggest the modifications subforum since that is were all the coding stuff happens anyway.

Proceed.

[null]

first of all you dont know anything because you could implement ogc functionality in trem itself.

Why? So that people would have to download an exe and replace it? That doesnt make any sense. Its much easier to be able to switch between hack and regular game by having a version with an injector.

creating a hook app is kinda lame for an open source app

As I said above, its so that you can switch between using cheats and not.

and cheat and anticheat are completely different. cheats are easy to make
anticheat is harder and sometimes not even possible

Uh, no? Anticheats are extremely similar to cheats in some aspects... I could make a decent anticheat for tremulous very quickly and using ONLY, yes, ONLY the same methods used to make certain cheats...

You are both within limits for now but if I you really wish to continue this may I suggest the modifications subforum since that is were all the coding stuff happens anyway.

Im not trying to go offtopic - we will be ontopic again soon because anything he says after this is useless since the above undeniable fact

[.f0rqu3]

1)g_aimbot 1/0 (really easy) you can switch anytime you want
try to understand how the engine works
2)anticheat lol

[null]

1)g_aimbot 1/0 (really easy) you can switch anytime you want
try to understand how the engine works
2)anticheat lol

mods.. maybe a /split

1. and distribution?
2. so you are just bragging bout your cheating skills then instead of trying to help? or is it just that you have no comeback?

[.f0rqu3]

client + qvm

and dont forget you are the one giving ppl your aimbot
now talking about helping ...rofl

[null]

client + qvm

and dont forget you are the one giving ppl your aimbot
now talking about helping ...rofl

what about client+qvm? thats not even a decent response. There are a ton of ways an anticheat could be created, so dont try to just say "client + qvm" and expect Ill bow to your incredible knowledge. How about loading a dll or qvm through client thats closed source?

Your the one who seems to think your hot shit yet who plays trem, so why not use your hot shit skills to help

[.f0rqu3]

I am talking about tremulous
and it is open source
but I think you dont understand this

and as I said I dont need to prove anything to you

[Repentance]

i'm a pretty 1337 coder myself. i once made a C++ program that converted feet to meters and back.


p.s. go to aim.com for the aimbot.

[E-Mxp]

my aimbot has some great features
aims at the weakest target
doesnt aim too fast (accelerated movement but not slow)
aims at the head if the target is near
aims at some random location if thetarget is far away
doesnt lock on targets too much selects the slowest moving target if possible
has some other features

OOOOhhhh, Aaaahhh,
Do want that!!

[tuple]

Null, it's unfortunate that you claim that an anticheat would be just as easy as a cheat, considering which you've subjected the tremulous community to.

You may be surprised to find out that many of us have been around for a while, and like the game quite a bit.  Many of our coders and I'm sure all of our dev's have the ability to create aimbots but have not (not distributed them anyways).  I can only guess that it is at least partially out of respect for the unique type of game that tremulous is.

Aside from the questionable usefulness of an aimbot in trem, it is understandable why you would take the challenge to create an aimbot for it.  It's fun, it's a challenge.  Your choice to distribute it is a seperate choice and action altogether.

Fortunately, though I'd love to not believe in Karma, I consistently see examples of it appear before me.  Hope you don't get stung too bad.

[kevlarman]

It's fun, it's a challenge.  Your choice to distribute it is a seperate choice and action altogether.

it's copying a few tremulous headers over the q3 ones and typing 'make'

[null]

I am talking about tremulous
and it is open source
but I think you dont understand this

and as I said I dont need to prove anything to you

loading a closed source anticheat dll.. *yawn*

at syscall / vm_create / vm_call look for JMP, JNZ, JZ, etc then if found flag as cheat... anticheat made!

[Death On Ice]

Pardon me, but we ARE talking about ruining the game for everyone, correct?  D: Well, I for one think that it would NOT be very cool to ruin it.