New race.

[cactusfrog]

zobies are a cool idea

[mooseberry]

zobies are a cool idea

Please help me, I'm not quite comprehending your brilliant idea.

[Archangel]

no need to be a total cunt about it

[Nux]

I think a good idea for a second race would be another faction of humans

I guess he didn't get the memo that tremulous already has a second race.

[Roanoke]

zobies are a cool idea

No matter how much you shoot them (barring headshots), they don't die and eat your head?
No.

[Kaleo]

I think a good idea for a second race would be another faction of humans

I always thought that H vs. H would be awesome.

What about adding Strogg? Trem needs more Strogg.

[snb]

It would be cool to have robots, just not on a third team. Maybe on the human team you can chose to be a robot, or a human, robots have a differant set of weapons or something differant about their weapons (like can only use energy weapons and they recharge or have double machine guns). The counter would be that they are disabled by adv marauders or something.

Also annoying spectators would probably be the best thing to ever happen to tremulous, It would be REALLY funny to see them fly over head and make odd noises.  I'd probably piss my pants doing it and laugh my head off.

[your face]

And make spectators look like this.

@Kaleo, there used to be a H vs. H server with a freaked qvm but it died a while ago.

[The Me]

@Kaleo, there used to be a H vs. H server with a freaked qvm but it died a while ago.

Im pretty sure instagib server is still up, and also instagib is on Trem spain. Instagib is a H v H game with 1 hit kill massdriver-only game.

[Syntac]

Also annoying spectators would probably be the best thing to ever happen to tremulous, It would be REALLY funny to see them fly over head and make odd noises.  I'd probably piss my pants doing it and laugh my head off.

Yes.

[player1]

I still vote for ghost bees for Specs. (+1 Nux/Bissig)

Maybe that's what "zobies" are - zombie bees.

[Zero Ame]

The idea of a third race has been suggested here many times before.

Many members of the community still feel that there are gameplay issues with the current two-race system, and, considering the amount of work required to implement a third race, that development resources are better spent on improving the current game. Furthermore, every map to date has been designed for an aliens vs. humans game, and these will need to be substantially modified, if not rewritten from scratch to make them playable for a three-race game. Overall, adding a third race would be closer to creating a new game than modifying Tremulous.

You could always write a really awesome third race mod and prove us wrong though

So if I say I will donate $100 if a third race is implimented into the game, will you do it? Cause I agree with him 100%, A third race would be extremely awesome and would indeed increase gameplay by alot. Granted, what could be done, is make it into a mod and slowly implement it into the game in the next version.

And yes, I am very much so serious about this and donating $100 for a third race. Heck, I'll even help with making maps for it.

[Urcscumug]

Now that's something else. Except it will take more than just $100 to convince a capable developer take some time and work on this seriously. And of course you'd have to get people to agree on what a 3rd race should be like, which may be a problem. But yeah, putting some money where the mouth is at least something concrete.

FWIW, I don't consider these discussions sterile. Designing a 3rd race will be complicated and should come first, regardless if anybody's gonna ever implement it. And if we keep putting it off or shooting it down it will definitely never happen. I'd feel much better if there was a solid design down on paper but nobody to do it then having 100 willing and able devs but nothing to work with.

[Zero Ame]

I can sketch up some stuff if ud like

My idea of a new race would be 1 of these:

• Another alien race but humnoids with technology
• A bunch Bio-experiments gone wrong, Half-breeds of Humans and Aliens 

[Urcscumug]

I think it would be best if we approached this issue of the 3rd race properly. By that I mean drawing up a table with three columns (alien, human and 3rd) and start writing rows with stuff that defines a race. For instance ranged attacks: put heavy use for humans, light use for aliens. Melee attacks, the other way around. Zone attacks, medium use for both (luci and nade for humans, mara zap and goon/rant mass damage for aliens). At some point we'd get a table where each entry is one of three degrees: heavy/medium/light use, or essential/optional/not used etc. And once we get an overall image of what makes the existing races what they are we can start filling in the 3rd column in a way that produces something completely new as well as balanced.

Actually, I think I will just start putting something like that together and see where it leads us.

[Zero Ame]

Good Idea, Ill draw up some sketches of possible maps and buildings for the new race and character models and ect.. Just for a base of ideas.

[The Me]

Good Idea, Ill draw up some sketches of possible maps and buildings for the new race and character models and ect.. Just for a base of ideas.

before you do that, look here: http://unvanquished.benburhans.com/forum/index.php

That is where you will find the current project to create a 3rd race, if you would like to help please just post on the first link and let us know how you can be of assistance. Wouldn't want fifty different versions of the same idea trying to be developed at the same time.

[zybork]

Ghosts, zombies,... whatever. But what would be the characteristics of this new race? Mind one thing:

Humans: Relatively weak on short range, strong on long range.
Aliens: Very strong on short range, weak on long range, very agile.

That's the spice of Tremulous. I don't see big chances for a third race to be any good. In my opinion, that "dualism" is a perfect concept, it may need some finetuning, but there is no need for a third race.

[Urcscumug]

I used to think so as well. Until I started putting together the comparison chart I mentioned above. Let's just say it's not so definitive anymore. I find there are plenty of places where the attributes of alien and human can allow for a third option, and that the combination of those third options has a lot of potential.

Here's the chart (excel XLS, open office calc ODS and HTML files):
http://uploading.com/files/PUR9A3FO/3rdrace.zip.html

[player1]

MALWARE!!!

do not want

just post it here

SMF supports tables

[Roanoke]

MALWARE!!!

do not want

just post it here

SMF supports tables

wut
Have you tried the tables? they don't work well. Oh, and it would be a pain to convert.

[Zero Ame]

I used to think so as well. Until I started putting together the comparison chart I mentioned above. Let's just say it's not so definitive anymore. I find there are plenty of places where the attributes of alien and human can allow for a third option, and that the combination of those third options has a lot of potential.

Here's the chart (excel XLS, open office calc ODS and HTML files):
http://uploading.com/files/PUR9A3FO/3rdrace.zip.html

A sugestion... use FileFront for uploads/downloads

[Urcscumug]

OK, I've put it on filefront too:
http://files.filefront.com/3rdracezip/;13034244;/fileinfo.html

[Ivancool]

We need the following new races!!!!!!


*Power gRangers.
*Tyrantsaurus rex, Goonzilla, Maraptor, Basilosaurus, Queen Congo.
*Uptimus Pride, Megatroll.
*N1 Abrahams, F-I6,F-SS, F-II7, AK-64 Apach, Hide D.
*Umer Sampsons, Bort Sampsons.
*Zub zone, Reiden, Scorpioff, Gore.
*Buttman, Sooperman, Spydermon, Hallk.
*Manganeto, Biclops, Coldman, Wallverine, Mystix, Quickgold, Daycrawler.
*Saline Snake, Lipid Snake,
*Master Chef,Curtain, Arbyte.
*Richars Stillman, Bile Games, Leenox Torballs
*All the Gameboy centerfolds girls (dressed of course)


Names were changed to avoid Trademark Infringement

[Archangel]

Linux Tarballs would make more sense, but maybe that's just me

[Bissig]

Linux Tarballs would make more sense, but maybe that's just me

Haahahahahaaaahaahahaha! Shot from a catapult! Hot and steamy and very, very black.

[Hendrich]

Linux Tarballs would make more sense, but maybe that's just me

Haahahahahaaaahaahahaha! Shot from a catapult! Hot and steamy and very, very black.

O.o;

*Hendrich gets another amazing idea*

[Taiyo.uk]

Linux Tarballs would make more sense, but maybe that's just me

Haahahahahaaaahaahahaha! Shot from a catapult! Hot and steamy and very, very black.

...and totally bzip2'd.

[kevlarman]

Linux Tarballs would make more sense, but maybe that's just me

Haahahahahaaaahaahahaha! Shot from a catapult! Hot and steamy and very, very black.

...and totally bzip2'd.

i 7zip my tarballs just to be an asshole.

[Roanoke]

Linux Tarballs would make more sense, but maybe that's just me

Haahahahahaaaahaahahaha! Shot from a catapult! Hot and steamy and very, very black.

...and totally bzip2'd.

i 7zip my tarballs just to be an asshole.

As in, .7zip?