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Meisseli

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #60 on: May 07, 2011, 10:19:03 pm »
Heh, same article has him saying 9/11 was an inside job too.

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #61 on: May 07, 2011, 10:19:49 pm »
Heh, same article has him saying 9/11 was an inside job too.

It does. See? Explaining you one thing wouldn't work. Just as I said.
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Meisseli

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #62 on: May 07, 2011, 10:34:54 pm »
Heh, same article has him saying 9/11 was an inside job too.

It does. See? Explaining you one thing wouldn't work. Just as I said.
Oh, you want to confess something about believing in another conspiracy?

Garion

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #63 on: May 07, 2011, 10:38:36 pm »
Heh, same article has him saying 9/11 was an inside job too.

It does. See? Explaining you one thing wouldn't work. Just as I said.
Oh, you want to confess something about believing in another conspiracy?

I don't believe in the official version of 9/11, and if you care to know why, go check on google.

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #64 on: May 08, 2011, 12:03:13 am »
I don't believe in the official version of 9/11, and if you care to know why, go check on google.

I like this man's logic. I can say anything, and if someone asks for evidence, I can tell them to Google it. For instance, Garion is really a sentient piece of feces. Don't believe me? Google it.
(In case you're too dense, this is a restatement of the "Obama is a reptilian dong" post I made earlier, with the sarcasm made a bit more blatant.)

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Garion

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #65 on: May 08, 2011, 12:16:50 am »
I don't believe in the official version of 9/11, and if you care to know why, go check on google.

I like this man's logic. I can say anything, and if someone asks for evidence, I can tell them to Google it. For instance, Garion is really a sentient piece of feces. Don't believe me? Google it.
(In case you're too dense, this is a restatement of the "Obama is a reptilian dong" post I made earlier, with the sarcasm made a bit more blatant.)

I gave you enough links to back up what I said, as for the rest, there is google to help you out. I don't even understand how people get these reactions to what I'm saying.

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #66 on: May 08, 2011, 12:36:56 am »
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

Osama made horcruxes! =D

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #67 on: May 08, 2011, 12:42:59 am »
I don't believe in the official version of 9/11

Colloidal silver did 9/11.

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #68 on: May 08, 2011, 12:54:58 am »
I'm the only one staying serious and providing links, yet I'm the one who gets mocked the most. This is what I mean by natural selection, some people just can't debate seriously to improve their knowledge. It's your existance in nature that made you like that, so the nature somewhat determined your position in this debate. Now, you may either become serious and contribute or keep acting like sheeps, as you've all been rejecting what I've said without caring at all. Because, if you cared for real, you would have made researches, and you wouldn't reject every thing I've sent you.

Ps: When I'm saying ''all of you'', I mean everyone from the group of people who all acted the same way I described.

Meisseli

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #69 on: May 08, 2011, 12:55:57 am »
Heh, same article has him saying 9/11 was an inside job too.

It does. See? Explaining you one thing wouldn't work. Just as I said.
Oh, you want to confess something about believing in another conspiracy?

I don't believe in the official version of 9/11, and if you care to know why, go check on google.
I rest my case :D

Perhaps you should as an avid fan of google check "paranoia" :)

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #70 on: May 08, 2011, 01:01:11 am »

Perhaps you should as an avid fan of google check "paranoia" :)

You're arrogant and stupid, therefore I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. You're simplyfying everything to a level, then you ridiculize it*. For great justice, I don't ''google check'', I ''find valid sources on google which AREN'T google and check <<solid proof>>'', and I'm not telling you to google check what I say, as I am giving you links. I'm just saying, if you have personal questions that keeps you away from accepting my idea and that you're not telling me, the I won't convince you of anything, so go check google. Also, I'm saying that you should bother checking google before asking anything, as there are so many informations about it, and just with the links I've sent you, you should see what is my position on this question.

*Does this reminds you of a certain phrase?

Pazuzu

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« Reply #71 on: May 08, 2011, 01:12:55 am »
I'm the only one staying serious and providing links, yet I'm the one who gets mocked the most.
You're the only one who's taking you seriously. And with good reason.

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Garion

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #72 on: May 08, 2011, 01:14:44 am »
I'm the only one staying serious and providing links, yet I'm the one who gets mocked the most.
You're the only one who's taking you seriously. And with good reason.

Your case is proven.

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #73 on: May 08, 2011, 01:17:06 am »
I'm sorry Garion, I apologise. I realise now natural selection made me unable to debate seriously to improve my knowledge. It is my existence in nature that made me like this. Nature somewhat determined my position in this debate.

what the fuck

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« Reply #74 on: May 08, 2011, 01:21:08 am »
You're arrogant and stupid, therefore I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. You're simplyfying everything to a level, then you ridiculize it*. For great justice, I don't ''google check'', I ''find valid sources on google which AREN'T google and check <<solid proof>>'', and I'm not telling you to google check what I say, as I am giving you links. I'm just saying, if you have personal questions that keeps you away from accepting my idea and that you're not telling me, the I won't convince you of anything, so go check google. Also, I'm saying that you should bother checking google before asking anything, as there are so many informations about it, and just with the links I've sent you, you should see what is my position on this question.

*Does this reminds you of a certain phrase?

I did some deep investigation and I have to tell you what i found is beyond your wildest imagination. Garion is working for the Libyan Government trying to spread doubt about the U.S!
Source: http://ojeling.net/classified.txt

If you don't accept this source I'm afraid you are not mentally capable and natural selection will have it's way with you.

Garion

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #75 on: May 08, 2011, 01:21:31 am »
I'm sorry Garion, I apologise. I realise now natural selection made me unable to debate seriously to improve my knowledge. It is my existence in nature that made me like this. Nature somewhat determined my position in this debate.

what the fuck

Yes, it means some people are conditioned in such a way, that they won't be closed to everything. These people, they aren't you. These people, if they are like that, it's because during their lives, developed something called <<an open mind>> and intelligence, therefore they have autonomy and can argue about things instead of just rejecting them, without giving a reason*.

*And only one reason is poor, especially when I'm talking to a man defending himself like a nihilist and a teenager would.

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #76 on: May 08, 2011, 01:24:37 am »
You're arrogant and stupid, therefore I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. You're simplyfying everything to a level, then you ridiculize it*. For great justice, I don't ''google check'', I ''find valid sources on google which AREN'T google and check <<solid proof>>'', and I'm not telling you to google check what I say, as I am giving you links. I'm just saying, if you have personal questions that keeps you away from accepting my idea and that you're not telling me, the I won't convince you of anything, so go check google. Also, I'm saying that you should bother checking google before asking anything, as there are so many informations about it, and just with the links I've sent you, you should see what is my position on this question.

*Does this reminds you of a certain phrase?

I did some deep investigation and I have to tell you what i found is beyond your wildest imagination. Garion is working for the Libyan Government trying to spread doubt about the U.S!
Source: http://ojeling.net/classified.txt

If you don't accept this source I'm afraid you are not mentally capable and natural selection will have it's way with you.

I believed a perturbing tought similar to this could probably interfere with the conviction my sources would bring to you.
« Last Edit: May 08, 2011, 01:28:29 am by Garion »

Pazuzu

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #77 on: May 08, 2011, 02:18:30 am »
THE WEAK SHALL BE SLAUGHTERED WHEN DONGBAMA INVOKES THE NEW WORLD ORDER

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Garion

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #78 on: May 08, 2011, 02:25:11 am »
As long as it's what you believe...

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #79 on: May 08, 2011, 02:27:22 am »
You're lucky the ability to detect sarcasm isn't a survival instinct.

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Meisseli

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #80 on: May 08, 2011, 02:39:39 am »
The reality of the matter is we don't know for sure what happened, not least because details are still coming to light (and still others may never come to light). I can see how keeping his death a secret would allow the US to continue persuing him which in turn gives an excuse for all sorts of maneuvers. I just personally doubt such a secret could be contained so well and that either some American or al-Qaeda member wouldn't ruin the cover-up in some way. It's also not the nicest of lies to concoct, that you were unable to get him for TEN YEARS. Bogus conspiracy theories are usually evident by how they fail Occam's razor when they propose that so many people (including the heads of American government, the members of al-Qaeda, Al Jazeera etc.) were all players in a massive game of make-believe.
This thread is fairly ridiculous, but I thought, some of you might be interested in a news article from a credible source with some pretty important info like this one.
I hereby present you some reasons that an open-minded, intelligent, autonomous, naturally selected avid googler fighting nihilists and teenagers worldwide chose to reject.

I did some deep investigation and I have to tell you what i found is beyond your wildest imagination. Garion is working for the Libyan Government trying to spread doubt about the U.S!
Source: http://ojeling.net/classified.txt

If you don't accept this source I'm afraid you are not mentally capable and natural selection will have it's way with you.
The truth unfolds!

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #81 on: May 08, 2011, 02:43:22 am »
You're lucky the ability to detect sarcasm isn't a survival instinct.
Don't be too hard on the poor boy, i hear morgellons can impair such abilities in sufferers, also bear in mind that, due to the prevalence of mind-control chips in fillings, garion can't visit the dentist, so with all that tooth pain _and_ the stress and physiological effects of such a serious disease, it's no wonder he has a little trouble getting his point across, poor garion :(
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #82 on: May 08, 2011, 03:01:23 am »
You're lucky the ability to detect sarcasm isn't a survival instinct.
Don't be too hard on the poor boy, i hear morgellons can impair such abilities in sufferers, also bear in mind that, due to the prevalence of mind-control chips in fillings, garion can't visit the dentist, so with all that tooth pain _and_ the stress and physiological effects of such a serious disease, it's no wonder he has a little trouble getting his point across, poor garion :(

And that's it for our discussion, Tremulant knew how to drag this down to the lowest level! You've discredited everything I said with your childness, and you did it without any effort. I can only tell you one thing, as talking with you is like talking to a deaf man: time might tell who was right.

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #83 on: May 08, 2011, 03:05:32 am »
And yet you choose to listen to the "childness" and ignore the others (Meis, Nux, etc), who are actually trying to have a rational debate with you. I'd say the trolls won this round.

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #84 on: May 08, 2011, 03:24:15 am »
And that's it for our discussion, Tremulant knew how to drag this down to the lowest level! You've discredited everything I said with your childness, and you did it without any effort. I can only tell you one thing, as talking with you is like talking to a deaf man: time might tell who was right.
I did at one point ask you to explain your point, you failed to acknowledge the post and just decided to link to random "sources", at every turn you've avoided giving any explanation, preferring to suggest that we look for the answers in our collective "google bars".
If you can't even begin to explain your point to those you consider less well informed than yourself, it suggests to me that you may not have a terribly solid grasp of just what that point might have been in the first place...

Anyway, apologies for having put so much time and effort into derailing this otherwise entirely serious thread and attempting, with unexpected success, to completely discredit you, Garion, it was child of me.
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Garion

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #85 on: May 08, 2011, 03:38:58 am »
And yet you choose to listen to the "childness" and ignore the others (Meis, Nux, etc), who are actually trying to have a rational debate with you. I'd say the trolls won this round.

Meisseli didn't say anything to debate with me. I gave him a really good source and he discredited like it was nothing because it also talks about 9/11. He also had a terrible attitude. Anyway, I won't develop much more on his case.

I will answer Nux, because his intervention was one of the rare that made sense. Altho, if I didn't answer him, it's because the answers were basically in my sources*.

*so look there, because I'll base my answer on it. Partially, possibly.

Nux's answer:

''The reality of the matter is we don't know for sure what happened, not least because details are still coming to light (and still others may never come to light). I can see how keeping his death a secret would allow the US to continue persuing him which in turn gives an excuse for all sorts of maneuvers. I just personally doubt such a secret could be contained so well and that either some American or al-Qaeda member wouldn't ruin the cover-up in some way.''

You are right, we won't know for sure what happened, but there are documents that can be verified and credible person who can be interviewed. The source I gave ( http://www.infowars.com/top-us-government-insider-bin-laden-died-in-2001-911-a-false-flag/ ) shows a man who worked for the government (check out his biography too) revealing secrets of the government. He is saying at some point that the CIA had a document concerning the death of Osama Ben Laden, and that it was hidden. He also said that it could be proved, with simply a research on internet, that Ben Laden was sick and about to die even in 1999. He had the marfan syndrome, so he needed a machine next to him to stay alive. Which also explains why the closes people next to Ben Laden (the second leaders bellow him, and many high graded people in Al Qaeda were medics). Also, Ben Laden, after september 11, so the 12, the only plane that took flight in the United-States, was the one with BEN LADEN inside.

''It's also not the nicest of lies to concoct, that you were unable to get him for TEN YEARS. Bogus conspiracy theories are usually evident by how they fail Occam's razor when they propose that so many people (including the heads of American government, the members of al-Qaeda, Al Jazeera etc.) were all players in a massive game of make-believe.''

There are people who hold serious conspiracy theories and actually tell how some people can exploit the different systems in the world, such as the states, the medias, journals, etc... If you simplify every conspiration theories to a massive game where everyone is a complete traitor and a big vilain, then I think you have a wrong vision of these theories. This is why I propose people to read things by themselves, so they can develop a better idea than a black and white one.

''I can see how the choice not to show pictures of him (despite showing pictures of those with him [WARNING: Dead bodies and blood]) and to dump him quickly in the sea is sensible from a psychological game point of view. It's harder to rally a cause in reaction to an event without such shocking imagery from said event to back it (which, funnily enough, is the exact way in which the attack and subsequent collapse of the WTC was used).''

Indeed, the official theory isn't solid. Not showing a picture of the body for psychological reasons is okay if you're a mother, not when you do politics and you supposedly just killed the most searched man on the planet.

''In any case, I can't help feeling such speculation is misplaced when there are very real moral issues with the story as they tell it. For example the latest account seems to be that osama was unarmed (possibly near to but not holding a weapon). Do you think if he could have been captured alive, he should have been? Who's decision was it to shoot him and for what reason? ''

In my sources, they explained why declaring the death of Osama Ben Laden was a strategic decision. First, it is because Al Qaeda's troops are gonna have to be seen as allies of the united-states for the future military missions in orient and africa. Also, with the recent fall of popularity of Obama and his birth certificate affair, the death of Osama Ben Laden was a great accomplishment to Obama and would make him more loved and trusted. There's surely more...

Anyway, I'm keeping my answers short because it's not my role to tell you everything.
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #86 on: May 08, 2011, 03:51:33 am »

I did at one point ask you to explain your point, you failed to acknowledge the post and just decided to link to random "sources", at every turn you've avoided giving any explanation, preferring to suggest that we look for the answers in our collective "google bars".
If you can't even begin to explain your point to those you consider less well informed than yourself, it suggests to me that you may not have a terribly solid grasp of just what that point might have been in the first place...

Anyway, apologies for having put so much time and effort into derailing this otherwise entirely serious thread and attempting, with unexpected success, to completely discredit you, Garion, it was child of me.

A random source? No, it's absolutly not a random source. I avoided giving explaination because your collective google bar allows you to enter three key words and find all the links that talk about this HOT subject. I can't begin explaining to people who don't even care enough about what I have to say to read my links. It was your way of psychanalyzing me like a teenager who just learned a Freud theory would do... here's another good source for you: http://www.prisonplanet.com/inside-sources-bin-ladens-corpse-has-been-on-ice-for-nearly-a-decade.html

« Last Edit: May 08, 2011, 03:58:22 am by Garion »

Pazuzu

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #87 on: May 08, 2011, 04:19:49 am »
First infowars, now prisonplanet? How about an independent source that isn't dripping with propaganda?

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #88 on: May 08, 2011, 04:27:14 am »
First infowars, now prisonplanet? How about an independent source that isn't dripping with propaganda?

A source that'd claim Osama Bin Laden's death in 2001 would obviously call it propaganda when the government says he killed Osama Bin Laden in 2011. It seems logical.

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
« Reply #89 on: May 08, 2011, 10:31:04 am »
-- CLASSIFIED: CONSPIRACY OF THE DAY --

GOOGLE GIVES PEOPLE DIFFERENT LINKS FIRST DEPENDING ON WHAT DID THEY SEARCH BEFORE.
OUR SPECIALISTS CALL IT THE "SURCH INGANE REVELANCE"

-- EOF --

-- CLASSIFIED: CONSPIRACY OF THE DAY --

THE CAKE IS A LIE, JUST GOOGLE IT

-- EOF --

-- CLASSIFIED: ADDENDUM --

A RADIANT SOURCE OF 650NM WAVELENGTH BUTTHURT HAS BEEN DETECTED AT 15641.60
NEEDS FURTHER INVESTIGATION

-- EOF --

You make up Qrntz, u always angry, just calmdown. :police:
I am stupid idiot who dares to open mouth and start debating