Where did TremZ Go?

[GeneralScott]

Both of the topics have been locked (obviously) and nobody has said any alternative area for discussion (unless you mean IRC)... It is still on right?

[vcxzet]

All tremz devs were secretly banned
Progress is against forum rules

[GeneralScott]

I'm not THAT stupid.

[RAKninja-Decepticon]

Both of the topics have been locked (obviously) and nobody has said any alternative area for discussion (unless you mean IRC)... It is still on right?

yes, seems silly to lock the topics without telling folks where to go to discuss.

[Celestial_Rage]

You can go to #tremz @ freenode to stay on top of the latest development with Tremz.

[Vape]

This will be locked on the direct and unsolicited request of its authors, who wish that the discussion be continued elsewhere.

[Tremulant]

You can go to #tremz @ freenode to stay on top of the latest development with Tremz.

The best you'll manage there is to see people turn up, start discussing tremz, get stopped and told to go to the invite only secret development channel.

[c4]

No, Tremulant, you just scare people off before we can explain things to them

[Pazuzu]

I'm not THAT stupid.

No, but you are THAT humorless, which is even worse.

[/dev/humancontroller]

[] according to Volt, TremZ will have a dedicated forum running by Wednesday. and i've heard rumors that Tremulous 1.2 will be released only on Thursday, so TremZ will beat Tremulous 1.2. [/]

[vcxzet]

All of tremz devs stopped posting because they can't access their accounts or the forum anymore.
That is the only explanation.

[/dev/humancontroller]

All of tremz devs stopped posting because they can't access their accounts or the forum anymore.
That is the only explanation.

i wonder how much users got banned as a result of the anti-TremZ movement by the tremulous.net admins. because the set of TremZ developers is not public.

[Volt]

Just to clear some stuff up we chose to have topics locked for personal reasons, additionally as far as I know none of us have been banned for anything tremz related.

[Tremulant]

Just to clear some stuff up we chose to have topics locked for personal reasons, additionally as far as I know none of us have been banned for anything tremz related.

This is, of course, precisely the kind of thing we'd expect to see posted from the hijacked account of a silenced developer.

[Conzul]

Just to clear some stuff up we chose to have topics locked for personal reasons, additionally as far as I know none of us have been banned for anything tremz related.

This is, of course, precisely the kind of thing we'd expect to see posted from the hijacked account of a silenced developer.

[Ingar]

[sculder&mully]

That was TremX, this thread is about TremZ.

The Tremulous Development Team believes in open source: mods and forks have always been possible
and are probably one of the reasons why Tremulous is still around. For various reasons,
some people need to do their thing and we can only wish them well in their undertakings.

[Conzul]

The Tremulous Development Team believes in open source: mods and forks have always been possible
and are probably one of the reasons why Tremulous is still around. For various reasons,
some people need to do their thing and we can only wish them well in their undertakings.

Conspiracy is more fun.

I can only think of two reasons for their "desire" to move elsewhere:
   1) They decided that they were making such an awesome iteration of Tremulous that it would be way cooler to finalize it and then spring it on us suddenly in all its awesomeness. This is unlikely, however, since they've allowed us to see so much of what they've already done. I can't see them being that indecisive.

    2) Which leaves possibility 2, and I think this possibility is far more likey based on this fakelog that I recovered:

    console: tremdev logged into your channel
    Zdev: what took you so long?
    Zdev: you said you wanted to talk
    tremdev: yeah its important
    tremdev: listen, this tremz thing you're doing
    tremdev: its great you know, but there's a problem
    Zdev: wat problem?
    tremdev: well, tremz is looking *so* good that if you
    tremdev: release it now, a lot of trem players might switch
    tremdev: to it.
    Zdev: what's wrong with that
    Zdev: that was kinda the idea to keep the game alive
    tremdev: well there's nothing *wrong* with that, but you gotta realize
    tremdev: that this will split the community up even further (i.e. 1.1; 1.2; korx; tremz)
    tremdev: and if that happens the game will just die
    Zdev: no it won't! tremz's gonna help save tremuluz not kill it
    tremdev: but surely if we split up the few players playing the official build
    tremdev: the playerbase will get too fragmented, meaning the gaem WILL die
    Zdev: even if I believed this there's nothing to be done abut it
    Zdev: *about sorry
    tremdev: yes there is and I think you'll be cool with it
    Zdev: be still, my heart
    tremdev: take your dev discussion away from trem.net and keep working on it till
    tremdev: 1.2 comes out then release it
    Zdev: LOL
    tremdev: no really think about it. We'll speed up 1.2 so it comes out by Q1 nxt year and
    tremdev: give ppl a chance to try it and maybe get some of the 1.1 players to go for it
    tremdev: so the split won't be so bad and you get extra time to make tremz more awesome
    Zdev: weeelllll
    tremdev: that's not unreasonable is it?
    Zdev: I'm not sold. ..
    tremdev: I'll get stannum to throw in a batch of fresh muffns ?
    Zdev: Well Ok
    Zdev: that might work out.
    tremdev: =D
    Zdev: won't people think you guys shut us down though?
    tremdev: technically we are but you just wait till after 1.2
    tremdev: dw we'll use your account to post ambiguous explanations,
    tremdev: make it look like your doing whatt your REALLY doing actually
    tremdev: preparing a surprise for us.
    Zdev: siiiiiighh k then go ahed.
    console: tremdev left your channel

[Volt]

They're onto us O.o

[CreatureofHell]

I'm surprised people haven't grown tired of conspiracy theories, considering how often they appear in this community...

[CorSair]

I'm surprised people haven't grown tired of conspiracy theories, considering how often they appear in this community...

Well, I'm probably the only one who had enough of them...

[vcxzet]

So tremz was a joke. right?
It was good I nearly thought it was real

[Conzul]

So tremz was a joke. right?
It was good I nearly thought it was real

Considering that development is still going on, it's probably real.

[CreatureofHell]

So tremz was a joke. right?
It was good I nearly thought it was real

Considering that development is still going on, it's probably real.

People thought that about 1.2

[kharnov]

So tremz was a joke. right?
It was good I nearly thought it was real

No, it's not a joke. We're just keeping development secret for the moment. However, I can say that we've been having massive progress over the last week. And yes, check out that Picasa link for various shots of development.

[CreatureofHell]

May I ask why the most recent pictures are from the old HUD volt and paradox were working on?
Does this mean progress is based on number of pictures?

[Tremulant]

massive progress

https://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ?authkey=Gv1sRgCMCUq-TG0e2vtQE#5657478743603305794
i'm just sad there's no lensflare

[kharnov]

massive progress

https://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ?authkey=Gv1sRgCMCUq-TG0e2vtQE#5657478743603305794
i'm just sad there's no lensflare

Tremulant, that isn't from TremZ. It's from something made several years ago. Completely different thing. 

[Tremulant]

massive progress

https://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ?authkey=Gv1sRgCMCUq-TG0e2vtQE#5657478743603305794
i'm just sad there's no lensflare

Tremulant, that isn't from TremZ. It's from something made several years ago. Completely different thing. 

That much is obvious, Kharnov, just wondering if it's really worth dumping such unrelated crap in the picassa album.

[Volt]

May I ask why the most recent pictures are from the old HUD volt and paradox were working on?
Does this mean progress is based on number of pictures?

The images have been moved to end of album, I uploaded to show some dev team members how the old UI looked like compared to current. Also progress isn't based on the number of pictures. It's relevant to current development only to show how far UI has come from when I first tried implementing it. Again nothing looks great when you first do it but it gets better with every revision

[CreatureofHell]

May I ask why the most recent pictures are from the old HUD volt and paradox were working on?
Does this mean progress is based on number of pictures?

The images have been moved to end of album, I uploaded to show some dev team members how the old UI looked like compared to current. Also progress isn't based on the number of pictures. It's relevant to current development only to show how far UI has come from when I first tried implementing it. Again nothing looks great when you first do it but it gets better with every revision

He said massive progress and then directed people to the image album. Very misleading.