Risujin's Balance Mod for SVN 879 revision 16

[whitebear]

if you slap kill your self you get -1 kill
i don't know how it effects if you kill someone else with it.

[Paradox]

Someone mentioned that they needed an icon for the xael cannon. Hows this:

[Risujin]

There are also problems with people team-killing the freshly spawned without losing any cash.

They lose kill count but other than that they havent really caused any irreplacable damage.

Someone mentioned that they needed an icon for the xael cannon.

I made icons for all of the new weapons. Play rev 15 and have a look. The traqsaw and bile dretch icons Im pleased with. The Xael 2 one isnt bad (I wanted it to convery bouncing) but I think something like yours would probably fit the original icon set better. I'd like to know what people think.

if you slap kill your self you get -1 kill
i don't know how it effects if you kill someone else with it.

Theres a bug I forgot to fix... Dying from a slap counts as a world kill just like falling down a ravine so you lose a kill. It needs to show the slapper's name and obviously not affect kills.

[Paradox]

as i said, you could make the message NAME was slapped silly by NAME

[Mangler]

Nope, I don't like this new 'moving-back' "recoil" from the shotgun.

A Shotgun is NOT an artillery cannon!

The Chaingun is even LESS deserving of push-back, than the shotgun.
(Each shot has less energy thus less recoil, mind you the 'view-shake' is astronomical but there should be NO 'push-back')

Also its like nobody is playing Rev 15... why?

[Risujin]

Nope, I don't like this new 'moving-back' "recoil" from the shotgun ... The Chaingun is even LESS deserving of push-back, than the shotgun.

Its actually artificially amplified, it has virtually none with normal calculations. I wanted it to feel like it had some power (ever fired a real shotgun?)

It didnt seem to me like it made much difference for gameplay though. The chaingun ends up a little nerfed, especially with light armor. The kickback from the lucifer cannon is a lot of fun.

Also its like nobody is playing Rev 15... why?

I would like to know.

[techhead]

The kickback from Xael, especially overcharge, is even more fun.
Once I actually launched myself high enough with it that I died from gravity on my way down.
Full health, Light armor.
Thats why I use overcharge either indoors or with a jetpack.

[vcxzet]

kickback is not good
blaster/rifle/paisaw/lasgun/flamer/pulse
and shotgun with bsuit should not do kickback
a little kickback with chain/luci/xael with bsuit
and big knockback with chain/shotgun/xael/luci would be fine

[Vector_Matt]

How about giving the adv basi an acid tube style attack for secondary? It would make that class be useful to non pro players.

[Risujin]

How about giving the adv basi an acid tube style attack for secondary? It would make that class be useful to non pro players.

A skill-less area attack is not such a bad idea. Another one I saw on the feedback forum is shooting freeze-barbs. Unbalance maybe, but then again basilisk sucks. :wink:

and big knockback with chain/shotgun/xael/luci would be fine

He was complaining about shotgun knockback... :roll:
Thats pretty much how the system is now anyway, the knockback for those weapons is negligible.

[Mangler]

Well the knockback for the shotgun, while I personnaly dislike it has minimal effect on its aim. (You usually have to reaim every shot anyways)

The Chainguns recoil is TOO much, as you will 'slide' all OVER the place when using it without a bsuit (and even there -- too much push-back).

Its really more agravatingly annoying than a nerf.

The Xael Mk2 is just terrifing for everyone in close quarters, which IMHO makes things more fun!

Was there any code done for the flying alien? Good luck with that, Its about time those jetpackers got a taste of their own medicine.

[n00b pl0x]

leave knockback the way it is. If you slide backwards that helps protect you from aliens because you'll keep sliding out of their range. Think before you post dipshit.

[Mangler]

My what Flamtastic comments you have, n00b pl0x. Not very constructive.

push-back has push me off railings to my (unexpected death).

Also my usual tactic of Chain-Fed Chaingun works all the worse, as I keep falling off the armoury... :-?

Risujin: have you seen this?
http://tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=945

Any experience with Grapping hook mods? Similar idea for aliens.

[n00b pl0x]

My what Flamtastic comments you have, n00b pl0x. Not very constructive.

push-back has push me off railings to my (unexpected death).

Also my usual tactic of Chain-Fed Chaingun works all the worse, as I keep falling off the armoury... :-?

Risujin: have you seen this?
http://tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=945

Any experience with Grapping hook mods? Similar idea for aliens.

1. Dont camp on railings/ledges
2. Dont camp on the armory

You're a fucking moron. The pushback helps people who actually go attack the aliens. I've been saved from goons who just walk str8 up to you and slash you a few times because I've been pushed out of their reach.

[Risujin]

The pushback helps people who actually go attack the aliens. I've been saved from goons who just walk str8 up to you and slash you a few times because I've been pushed out of their reach.

You're right but dont lose your temper. The kickback on the Lucifer Cannon makes the gun amazing with light armor.

Was there any code done for the flying alien? Good luck with that, Its about time those jetpackers got a taste of their own medicine.

The code is easy. I need a model:
http://www.tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2833

Any experience with Grapping hook mods? Similar idea for aliens.

Vcxzet has written a grapple-gun, check it out in TremX. It is far more useful for aliens as you point out. Its complicated coding, if I dont get a flying alien though I will have to go with this. It would be very fitting for the Adv. Basilisk.

[Risujin]

Yay release spam ... check out my help menu in revision 16.

[robug]

rev 16 is up at yaknet balance if anyone wants to check it out

Thanks  Risujin

[techhead]

By the way, could you make the spectator camera slightly smaller?
The current size makes navigating through some vents troublesome.
Example: Vents above the default human base on arachnid, you can do it, but its hard.

[Vector_Matt]

Typo:

• Stage 1 granger now has Adv. Granger's claw attack.
  ...
  
• Regular grangers can now slash like adv. grangers.

So... when is the droid scheduled for a test release?

[Risujin]

rev 16 is up at yaknet balance if anyone wants to check it out

Thanks for updating robug!

By the way, could you make the spectator camera slightly smaller?

I didnt even know spectators had bounding boxes... screwy...

So... when is the droid scheduled for a test release?

Sorry, it will be a while as Im pressed for time. I start classes in a week.

[Vector_Matt]

So... when is the droid scheduled for a test release?

Sorry, it will be a while as Im pressed for time. I start classes in a week.

Same here. Good luck etc...


I had an idea for the repair droid, mabey the graphic for when it's repairing could look like the reactor or adv maur zap, or the monitor (guilty spark 343, from Halo) collecting data. What do you think?

[vcxzet]

specs need bbox to do clipping against walls

[Risujin]

specs need bbox to do clipping against walls

Doesn't q3 have a point particle entities?

Not that its a big deal ... you dont want specs fitting through strange places where players cant (and mappers dont expect). If we shrink specs down to dretch size it should fix any issues.

[SexyGhost]

my server is now running rev16 thxs the for the update Risujin btw i changed my server name to |DiZ|Balance Rev16 thxs

[dodo1122]

YK@ balance runs rev 16 + 14 slots now



dodo

[Rawr]

How is the options menu accesed? accessable only through level 5 or rcon?
how do you delete layouts in rev 11?

[Risujin]

How is the options menu accesed? accessable only through level 5 or rcon?
how do you delete layouts in rev 11?

Hit escape and go to options ... it configures client side options only.

Delete layouts with !layout remove [name]

[Paradox]

Oh, for the week of the 19th, SST will be running balance.

[_Equilibrium_]

woot, more stuff. i just wish more people played the balance mod. great work ris, keep it up. i look forward to the droid and eventually the firefly.

[holyknight]

so many versions... have to download all over again...
is there any site that allows you to download it through internet?