On Alien crosshairs and other 'hacks'...

[PHREAK]

Why are you guys arguing about this anyway?

If you want the crosshair, put it in.
If you're against it, go fuck yourself since there is nothing you can do about it nor be able to tell if someone uses it.

End of story.

[NoSpin]

NoSpin, you do not understand English, as you admitted here.
So you don't understand us.

Just leave me out and check the meaning of "readily available" then come back, or try to learn the meaning of the words posted here, maybe, just maybe you'd be able to actually contribute to this thread instead of just trolling around.

No, I never said I do not understand English, I said I do not understand what ever language that you are speaking, which although it contains English words it is certainly not English.

Please explain the hammer and wrench analogy I really cannot wait to hear this.

You can not force someone to give you something you did not pay for.

I also am eagerly awaiting for you to explian what I want someone to give me that I did not pay for.

Please reread your response and explain it to yourself. I am interested to hear if you even understand what you are talking about.

[NoSpin]

Why are you guys arguing about this anyway?

If you want the crosshair, put it in.
If you're against it, go fuck yourself since there is nothing you can do about it nor be able to tell if someone uses it.

End of story.

lol

[NoSpin]

alien crosshairs didnt come with release is not part of game hence its bad imo...

I do like that computer someone asked me to fix. You see, there was that uncanny bug ( I never managed to fix btw ) : when playing unreal tournament, the mouse cursor wouldn't disapear ! The game was in full screen but there would still be the white windows mouse cursor right in the middle of the screen.

If that happened with trem, would this be considered cheating?

excellent point

[vcxzet]

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[Glunnator]

Why are you guys arguing about this anyway?

If you want the crosshair, put it in.
If you're against it, go fuck yourself since there is nothing you can do about it nor be able to tell if someone uses it.

End of story.

lol

Once again, i agree with Phreak. He's right! He is RIGHT! He's just right and theres nothing you can do about it! The only part I don't agree on is the

there is nothing you can do about it

Because if ppl with da adminrights DO find out, (About 0.0000000000000000000000001 * 10^-12938100023914987231 chance that this will happen) they can kick, ban, kickban, or warn the so-called "cheaters"


I think its cheating though, and I would say this:
Everyone should find the honour and dignity in themselves to PLAY FAIR and HAVE FUN and NOT CHEAT

Because if this can't happen, no one can have fun with trem the fair way.

End of (my) story

[Glunnator]

:eek: OMG double post...

alien crosshairs didnt come with release is not part of game hence its bad imo...

I do like that computer someone asked me to fix. You see, there was that uncanny bug ( I never managed to fix btw ) : when playing unreal tournament, the mouse cursor wouldn't disapear ! The game was in full screen but there would still be the white windows mouse cursor right in the middle of the screen.

If that happened with trem, would this be considered cheating?

excellent point

Yes, nospin, this IS an ecxellent point. Stof you have once again proven yourself forum-worthy. If THIS happened, I would not call it cheating. I would just call stof a lucky bastad  

[raanan]

Arguing about having a crosshair in an fps is retarded. I hope you all feel sufficiently pleased with yourself because anyone who reads this idiocy is going to lose all faith in humanity and subsequently go hang themselves. To quote Mencia, "Der der derrr!"

fucking hell...

[PwNz!]

Arn't FPS aka First person shooters supposed to have crosshairs? Think about all the FPS games that have a crosshair....whats so different about tremulous?..i guess you can argue witht hat their is aliens...but then i would argue their just another class like in quake 3.

[Neo]

I know what you mean, you get people who say its cheating because it doesn't come with the game, then go on about how binds are okay even though they don't come with the game you add them after.

How about making a locked trem that has no options or console to change stuff with, that way the little trolls like lava will be happy.

[DIGI_Byte]

It is not the matter between hummies / aliens it is of "readyly available".

I dont get it, so if I post a radar hack in form of easily installable mod you will be ok with it?

I don't think so if your'e allowed that surely some master could make a 3d compass that pionts a line from the centre to a piont representing another players position and have a diamond target pop up on screen over the other player when they enter view (no auto aim)

[Undeference]

The difference is that radar can be done without any actual code. Most other stuff would require actual code modification. (If, however, positions of enemies around -- not in front of -- you were only provided to people actually wearing helmets, that wouldn't matter.)

[DIGI_Byte]

The difference is that radar can be done without any actual code. Most other stuff would require actual code modification. (If, however, positions of enemies around -- not in front of -- you were only provided to people actually wearing helmets, that wouldn't matter.)

Though that idea would be great, maybe its a great idea to actually be inplemented with the helmet. but if it wasn't in the game? that would be VERY close to cheating.

[DIGI_Byte]

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who ever typed that name ment

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in  other words

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[|Nex|TrEmMa]

HOW ABOUT WE ALL GET AIMBOTS THEN WE CAN ALL PLAY TOGETHER AND SEE WHO HAS THE BEST ONE LOL

[Undeference]

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htttp://www.freeaimbots.ru/hacks/freeaimbotcaughtrojancaugh.exe

thats a trojan you know

who ever typed that name ment

free aim bot cough trojan cough.exe
in  other words

this is a free aim bot  *cough* trojan *cough*

free aim bot caugh trojan caugh.exe

Are you serious? I thought a file named freeaimbotcaughtrojancaugh.exe, with all its professional looking title and perfect spelling would be a legitimate program. I just can't believe that a binary on some obviously high class Russian website would be infected.

I intend to install that on all the computers at work (my coworkers can't aim worth shit).

[rasz_pl]

The difference is that radar can be done without any actual code. Most other stuff would require actual code modification. (If, however, positions of enemies around -- not in front of -- you were only provided to people actually wearing helmets, that wouldn't matter.)

it would be hard to make game.qvm send surrounding players positions only to helmet users/aliens, after all humans without helmet can also HEAR other players that are arround the corner/on the other side of the door/behind them. One would have to make a new class just for sending sound effect positions that are not on players screen (player is facing other direction) plus maybe write some magic player model[bbox]-player eyes LOS detection routine. Sounds like a lot of coding.

[Stof]

It would be hard, but not only because of that : if you do not get the info of the players around you, you cannot turn around quickly without huge visible bugs ( players poping out of nowhere ).

[Mango]

Whats wrong with a little crosshair anyway? It doesn't hurt anyone.
Not that I use it, but I don't see a big threat to national security!

[Vector_Matt]

Not that I use it, but I don't see a big threat to national security!

YES IT IS, YOU SHALL PAY FOR YOUR IGNORANCE!

j/k

[Lava Croft]

Adding stuff to your HUD is cheating. Period.

If you want a crosshairs, ask TremDev to add them, which they probably will. Until then, refrain from 'hacking' Tremulous.

[kevlarman]

Adding stuff to your HUD is cheating. Period.

If you want a crosshairs, ask TremDev to add them, which they probably will. Until then, refrain from 'hacking' Tremulous.

if they didn't want you modifying the hud, they would have cheat protected the variable.

[Lava Croft]

Adding stuff to your HUD is cheating. Period.

If you want a crosshairs, ask TremDev to add them, which they probably will. Until then, refrain from 'hacking' Tremulous.

if they didn't want you modifying the hud, they would have cheat protected the variable.

Nonsense. Why can't you people wait until the next release of Tremulous before starting to cheat your way to Alien crosshairs.

As a last thing, a quote from Norfenstein:

<Norfenstein> I like how people assume the developers consider tremulous to be perfect and complete -_-

[Mango]

People will never stop hacking games. I myself have done miniscule Halo hacking, but not for online play. It's just something to do when you've clocked the game and your getting bored.

I say again, I DO NOT hack tremulous or any other online game. I don't actually know how!

[jhaa]

Adding stuff to your HUD is cheating. Period.
If you want a crosshairs, ask TremDev to add them, which they probably will. Until then, refrain from 'hacking' Tremulous.

if they didn't want you modifying the hud, they would have cheat protected the variable.

If *god* didn't want me murdering every one of you, he/she would have made you immortal.
Now... where did I leave my stabbyknife...

To make my point clear; being able to do something doesn't mean you should do it.

[DIGI_Byte]

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htttp://www.freeaimbots.ru/hacks/freeaimbotcaughtrojancaugh.exe

thats a trojan you know

who ever typed that name ment

free aim bot cough trojan cough.exe
in  other words

this is a free aim bot  *cough* trojan *cough*

free aim bot caugh trojan caugh.exe

Are you serious? I thought a file named freeaimbotcaughtrojancaugh.exe, with all its professional looking title and perfect spelling would be a legitimate program. I just can't believe that a binary on some obviously high class Russian website would be infected.

I intend to install that on all the computers at work (my coworkers can't aim worth shit).

I was poiting it out to the oblivious people

[Vector_Matt]

If crosshair usage was cheating, why have the devs not said so? :roll:

[Undeference]

When I asked Timbo "Crosshairs, legal or no?" his response was "probably not, but meh... it's open source"

[Vector_Matt]

When I asked Timbo "Crosshairs, legal or no?" his response was "probably not, but meh... it's open source"

So the devs (Timbo anyway) don't realy care if you use alien crosshairs.

And, as was stated ealrier, mostly it's newbs who use them, after a while they instinctivly aim the middle of the screen at the enemy, not bothering to look at the crosshair much.

[Lava Croft]

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