Risujin's Balance Mod for SVN 879 revision 16

[kevlarman]

will this download if i turn auto download on?

Yes, in console: \cl_allowDownload 1
You can download 25 kb/s from my server.

i can't just use options?

No, I dont think so. The Trem devs were surprisingly shortsighted for A) not allowing downloads in the first place and B) not providing a GUI for half the Trem options ... oh well.

autodownloads enabled by default has its own issues (if you've ever played et, you'll see about 20 pk3s lying around all with the same 6 map campaign)

[Evlesoa]

Omg... I agree, with the marauder, holy shit! its so hard to hit! goddamn... either spoof up the damage, or like, give it some range lol... I cant hit, cuz when i try and headshot and im jumping, cant reach... ive got killed a lot, cuz i cant do shit with marauder!

[Risujin]

autodownloads enabled by default has its own issues (if you've ever played et, you'll see about 20 pk3s lying around all with the same 6 map campaign)

ET had a crash bug from too many pk3s.

But seriously without autodownloads you get NO campaign pk3s at all! Everyone must play stock campaigns because n00bs dont know how to turn on downloads.

[Risujin]

Revision 11 fixes bugs with the new class reporting ("UnknownPlayer's Spectator died" etc) and integrates yesterday's !layout patch.

[Evlesoa]

Whats new???

[rasz_pl]

yaknet download link pushed by the server returns 404 ... i see you on the server but cant join

[kotoko]

HSP server in HK has installed Balance Mod at 16/12, plz update the list

Address: hsp.hk:30720

[Risujin]

yaknet download link pushed by the server returns 404 ... i see you on the server but cant join

rasz I just saw you try to connect! Download the mod pk3 from the link and drop it in .tremulous/balance (or the equivalent Windows dir).

HSP server in HK has installed Balance Mod at 16/12, plz update the list

Great! Thanks!

[robug]

yaknet download link pushed by the server returns 404 ... i see you on the server but cant join

Try i t again...  I think I fixed it.  yaknet balance is not supposed to redirect to any http download.

sorry

[whitebear]

We got small problem with rev 11.
when runing server it crashes to sv_BotFreeClient error.
this didn't happen with rev 10.
help?

[SilverWolf]

We got small problem with rev 11.
when runing server it crashes to sv_BotFreeClient error.
this didn't happen with rev 10.
help?

I got the same thing.  

[vcxzet]

We got small problem with rev 11.
when runing server it crashes to sv_BotFreeClient error.
this didn't happen with rev 10.
help?

I got the same thing.  

hmm maybe he did the tremded compability thing
I blame myself
but if he did so you can solve it with using tjw's tremded
(create a dedicated server and join)

[Risujin]

hmm maybe he did the tremded compability thing
I blame myself
but if he did so you can solve it with using tjw's tremded
(create a dedicated server and join)

I did, and its all your fault vcxzet!

There are updated installation instructions in the post, please read them carefully. Remember there is now a vm/game.qvm too that servers need to install. vcxzet is right, you should now use TJW's or SVN tremded.

[next_ghost]

I did, and its all your fault vcxzet!

There are updated installation instructions in the post, please read them carefully. Remember there is now a vm/game.qvm too that servers need to install. vcxzet is right, you should now use TJW's or SVN tremded.

You should use SVN tremded, TJW tremded still contains the configstring bug which makes clients think there's still a vote that finished long time ago.

[techhead]

Small bug:
Because the battlesuit hit-box is smaller than the model, and the 3rd person view is based on the hit-box, the battle-suit really gets in the way when using 3rd person.

[whitebear]

but we use tjw on (Cebt) so it should work but it won't

[Rawr]

glitch: with jetpack:
http://z6.invisionfree.com/Comrades_of_Might/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=8226548

[Risujin]

glitch: with jetpack:
http://z6.invisionfree.com/Comrades_of_Might/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=8226548

Thats not a bug. I made the jetpack wobble. I guess it does it a bit too much though...

but we use tjw on (Cebt) so it should work but it won't

Did you put the game.qvm into the tremulous/balance/vm folder?

Small bug:
Because the battlesuit hit-box is smaller than the model, and the 3rd person view is based on the hit-box, the battle-suit really gets in the way when using 3rd person.

The battlesuit needs to be made into its own class. I can fix the 3rd person perspective with a hack but it doesnt resolve the bounding box problem. Naked human boxes are too tall and battle suit boxes are too high. Its a pretty heavy modification though.

[Rawr]

so whats the tsaw and bile toggle that you were talking about?

[_Equilibrium_]

just some thoughts:

1.) make jetpack wobble less
2.) have tyrants have fall damage (maybe 1/4 of humans fall damage)
3.) dretches shoult fit under tyrants legs
4.) i was thinking. maybe some aliens should have placement damage. i mean, it shoult hurt a tyrant more to shoot it in the face than in the leg. head shots could do 1.5x more damage (rounded down), and leg shots could to .5x damage (rounded up). so one rifle bullet does 3 to leg, 5 to body, and 7 to head. this could only apply to tyrants and goons.
5.) crap! i forgot.

just some food for thought.

[Risujin]

1.) make jetpack wobble less

Done.

2.) have tyrants have fall damage (maybe 1/4 of humans fall damage)

Why..?

3.) dretches shoult fit under tyrants legs

I wanted to do something similar to this. Make dretches work like stairs, where bumping into one will make you hop on it. I can't really imagine a way to make dretches run under tyrants though (unless anyone knows how?)

4.) i was thinking. maybe some aliens should have placement damage. i mean, it shoult hurt a tyrant more to shoot it in the face than in the leg. head shots could do 1.5x more damage (rounded down), and leg shots could to .5x damage (rounded up). so one rifle bullet does 3 to leg, 5 to body, and 7 to head. this could only apply to tyrants and goons.

Would require additional bounding boxes for aliens which is a pretty difficult modification. With humans, the head is always on top so you dont need a second bounding box but with aliens its in wierd places, usually INSIDE the main bounding box so ... its tough.

[Undeference]

Would require additional bounding boxes for aliens which is a pretty difficult modification. With humans, the head is always on top so you dont need a second bounding box but with aliens its in wierd places, usually INSIDE the main bounding box so ... its tough.

You get a lot more control than you'd think with locdamage.cfg

[techhead]

Tyrants should have minor fall damage, ever seen an elephant fall 5 stories?
On the other hand, grangers take insignificant fall damage. So little, i can't find any map with enough room for my granger to die.

[Undeference]

On the other hand, grangers take insignificant fall damage. So little, i can't find any map with enough room for my granger to die.

Apply this, set your handicap to 2, spawn as a granger, and fall a short distance.

[benmachine]

I've installed and run a balance server (benmachine's Balance Mod Server, but it's pretty much only up when I can be bothered to start it) and it all works fine form a gameplay perspective, but I have found a few bugs with the new !slap command: when someone dies of !slap, the console log tells me they were killed by MOD_OVERMIND, and when the console !slaps anyone, we are told that "^3!slap: ^7UnnamedPlayer^7 feels ^7_ACIDTUBE^7's authoritay\n"
Plus I seem to be getting <world> killed player by MOD_TESLAGEN messages when they were actually gunned down by a turret. Out of curiousity I asked some players to build me a tesla and kill with it, and I was told the killer was MOD_HSPAWN
In the game, everything seems to be normal, but the console turns up all the wrong messages.

edit: also if you !slap someone as a spectator while following them you get the self-flagellation message.

[_Equilibrium_]

2.) have tyrants have fall damage (maybe 1/4 of humans fall damage)

Why..?

something THAT massive that is not as nimble as a goon should most definitely get hurt while falling from a high height.

[Rawr]

I wanted to do something similar to this. Make dretches work like stairs, where bumping into one will make you hop on it. I can't really imagine a way to make dretches run under tyrants though (unless anyone knows how?)

mabey need to alter the hitbox? the character model?

[vcxzet]

!layout command
coolness
Unlagged support
good
Retribution
handy
New admin command: !slap
abusive
Play in third person!
abusive
The chat balloon is back!
annoying
Revamped voting system:
nice
Human telenodes can now teleport!
eww
New radar!
eek
Aliens can devolve!
please noooo! you should not give ppl their evos back.
they must learn to evolve to the right class
Credit/evo donation!
great
New human weapon, Tranquilizer Saw!
huh?
New alien class, Bile Dretch!
did you take it from tremx or use the same crappy hue value
and you dont see the explosion after you die
make it instantaneous ?

Construction kit repair now has an impact particle system.
might be cool

Enabled spawning sound for humans that is in the original Tremulous data pk3 but for some reason or another was not enabled. Aliens now spawn with evolution sound effect.
annoying
Backwards-compatibility with +zoom.
obsolete

[robug]

Feature Request.

it would be nice to be able to save with each map layout different values for
g_humanbuildpoints and g_alienbuildpoints

I have noticed that if !layout edit is exec'd and all people disconect, that the map does not rotate.  Is it posible to put a timout on !layout edit if the last player with the !layout flag disconnects?

The layout command breaths new life into old maps!

Thanks  Ris

[vcxzet]

Feature Request.

it would be nice to be able to save with each map layout different values for
g_humanbuildpoints and g_alienbuildpoints

I have noticed that if !layout edit is exec'd and all people disconect, that the map does not rotate.  Is it posible to put a timout on !layout edit if the last player with the !layout flag disconnects?

The layout command breaths new life into old maps!

Thanks  Ris

!layout must be a devmap dependant command anyway
it is not good to design a layout while ppl are online
it must go in this order
/devmap map_name
/layout_edit
design
/layout_save
but layout place can be used without online since it can be used to recover the game after a deconner

@risujin
do you know you can spawn other things?
movers particle systems hurt zones